First answer my question (post #93) before I answer yours.
HALLOWEEN!
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First page would have been sufficient.
all this is doing is creating a rgument i told you i have noidea about a magic show or what ever you want to call it.... there are far worse things like taking a child to see the gal that married the football player and few other..so called stars .. if you think hallowen is evil let it be .. i am 64 dont even think about the date nor do i care...
It's called a Magic shop, Disneyland had one on main Street when they first opened in 1955, I was 6 yrs. old then, you were just a sparkle in your parents eyes. It left a lasting impression on me, but then again, I've always been inclined towards the occult, but who knew?.. and that is my point. You don't know of a child's inclination, so why chance it on some 'clean fun'?
never been to disney never ben to a magic shop personally i dont see a magic shop making you to like the occult. if i were to guess parts of the occult appears to be cool. you make out of life what you want... not every even with a name has to be occult related .. i know plenty kids who did halloween never followed up in the occult .. i have a buddy who go into the occult world.. who is now born again.. he seen some wild things. he called upon satan . he saw a black stallion, he had lady read his palm.. she freaked out ran out of the room.
once again it was not due to Halloween. look i understand your stand and what you came out of. i feel same way about drugs about drinking some kids are raised in a alcoholic home never drink.. all i am trying to say and this is my last time ..i feel like a broken record and i also feel due to the opposition that many think iam some liberial who is so open minded find a way to take the evil things out of Halloween it can be done.
i have seen it done make a clean environment for kids... can you not bind satan out ? i refuse give satan the credit.. Halloween is just a name evil events makes it bad.. there are people who celebrate christmas getting drunk. they fell snare to the devil the god of this world..
i use to watch disney as a kid today i have no use for disney. they are the biggest promoters of satanic events there is. satan has influnce on so many things in this world and our nation government is playing tag with him.. if the wrong party gets full control watch out.. you think Halloween is evil.. Brother you aint seen nothing yet . there is what you best be concerned about.. the spirit of the anti Christ . now then i am %100 through with the subject . yuppers i still stand where i do
An experiential side of dark spirits would be helpful in your case, so I'll just reiterate what I wrote in post #11....
...and leave it at that.
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I'm going to add this here.... because it falls along the lines of Occult. Halloween is only ONE example.
I am also very sensitive to other things that people think are harmless.
As a kid... I think it all starts out with the Ouija board... and from there it goes to kids watching a plethora of bad movies.
I heard mention of Disney... Add to that very BAD music... and I think you have a healthy breeding ground for the occult.
I see it in my own family. Then of course.... cigarettes... alcohol.... drugs... ( which in of themselves are simply vices... but taken in abusive doses
you have a vehicle of great force to dim the mind and fill it with things of satan.
But there's more.... You have Ghost stories.... ghost hunters ( shows that promote finding and releasing spirits that have NOT been able to cross over ).
The Long Island Medium which stuck me as rather bold... but by this time in history... we are basically desensitized to the OCCULT.
Seances.....Taro Cards.... Horoscopes... Magic... Palm reading...Hypnotism... New Age stores... Crystals... So many Christians are oblivious to the dangers and see this as simply innocent ENTERTAINMENT. I've probably missed a great many things here.... but they all take PERMISSIONS that GOD does NOT give us.
WE live in a NUMB world because of being over-stimulated... and this creates the perfect environment for spiritual happenings that are NOT pleasing to GOD.
I am also very sensitive to other things that people think are harmless.
As a kid... I think it all starts out with the Ouija board... and from there it goes to kids watching a plethora of bad movies.
I heard mention of Disney... Add to that very BAD music... and I think you have a healthy breeding ground for the occult.
I see it in my own family. Then of course.... cigarettes... alcohol.... drugs... ( which in of themselves are simply vices... but taken in abusive doses
you have a vehicle of great force to dim the mind and fill it with things of satan.
But there's more.... You have Ghost stories.... ghost hunters ( shows that promote finding and releasing spirits that have NOT been able to cross over ).
The Long Island Medium which stuck me as rather bold... but by this time in history... we are basically desensitized to the OCCULT.
Seances.....Taro Cards.... Horoscopes... Magic... Palm reading...Hypnotism... New Age stores... Crystals... So many Christians are oblivious to the dangers and see this as simply innocent ENTERTAINMENT. I've probably missed a great many things here.... but they all take PERMISSIONS that GOD does NOT give us.
WE live in a NUMB world because of being over-stimulated... and this creates the perfect environment for spiritual happenings that are NOT pleasing to GOD.
i understand where your coming from i have said that from the beginning.. i have been on the darkside myself.. i have the blood of jesus the greater is he that is in me .than he that is in the world..
Revelation 12:11
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.did i do the occult like you? the occult covers many areas.. not all are what we think... i respect your choice and i have never said you was wrong
No difference.
There is White Magic and Black Magic and both are condemned by the Word of God! Both are a compromise with the Occult and Witchcraft.
Agreed. We are all responsible for our choices in life and every choice made comes with a judgment, sooner or later.
That is the point that is being missed by some. I worry more about ME that I do about others.
The examples of Kroger and Walmart are only excuses to do what one has already decided to do no matter what God says!
Those excuses are what are called "Deflection"!
Deflection is a defense mechanism where a person shifts blame or focus to avoid experiencing uncomfortable emotions like anxiety, pain, guilt, criticism, or distress and conviction. Instead of taking responsibility, they redirect attention to someone or something else.
People deflect because they don't want to feel bad about themselves or look bad in front of others. They don't want people to think they've made a mistake or are at fault in any way. They want to be liked and looked up to. They don't want to admit—even to themselves—that they may have done something wrong.
Ouija board.......boy did you open the door!!!!
Disney is one of is not the most proficient abuser/user of the Occult in all the world. Disney has accomplished numerous truly amazing feats when it comes to deceiving people, seeming to provide exciting yet wholesome entertainment while delivering witchcraft and occult mind control right into their homes all in the name of........just clean fun for the kids.
Over the years, they have done it by using powerful subliminal messages, imagery and symbolism, of occult, witchcraft, pagan, Illuminati, masonic, sexual and other satanic origins. The borders separating good and evil are blurred and often good is subtly or overtly made to seem evil, boring or just plain wrong, while evil is presented as good, or somehow interesting, fascinating, glamorous, exciting and desirable.
Don't take my word for it and consider the fact that almost every Disney movie has some type of witch as a central figure.
From Snow White in 1938, through Madam Mim in The Sword in the Stone, Cruella De Vil in 101 Dalmations, to the 2014 film dedicated to the story of the witch Maleficent, witches are seen throughout.
Even In Disney’s Little Mermaid, Ariel signs a contract with the evil witch Ursula – or sells her soul to her? – in exchange for being human so she can marry her prince.
For example, in the true story, Pocahontas converted to Christianity, yet in the Disney movie, she visited a temple to consult with demonic pagan ‘nature’ gods and goddesses.
I would encourage anyone interested to do a seach on Walt Disney. You will be surprised to find out several things that you never knew.
naturally we pick and chose..there is another word but i wont use it..
Excellent Scripture and I agree 100 % and I am blessed to see you post it.
I can not read your thoughts so you will have to use that word for me.
Agree.
And IF this thread had ended on page one, we would not have had those inciteful words you just posted now would we, and we would not know or understand the ramifications of opening a door in just good clean fun.............would we????
no sir the more i say the more rebukes are posted. which are not real rebukes just opinions which are like noses everyone has one.. ................................................................>moving on
There has been a huge effort to accommodate your words and to try and fellowship with you by several members... myself included.
I wish you could find a soft spot for real conversation within the forums. None of these threads are meant to GUILT or SHAME anyone...
They are simply topics of which we either agree or disagree. Not everything is a WAR.
God bless you my friend. Be well and stay safe.
i dont think at any time i mentioned you in my post . i did the alleged soft spot..i simply explained my point of view ..it was never a war.. well maybe due to going against the grain kicking over the golden cow of religion .. i am Christian enough with Jesus to turn something like Halloween into clean fun for kids in Jesus name.. i do not have to give satan any credit or allow his influence in.. if rev 12 says they overcame him by the blood so can i . i really dont want to post about this,,,