1 Corinthians 12:10 Disernment of Spirits

1 Corinthians 12:10 Disernment of Spirits

Hello everyone,

On another thread one of my siblings in the Lord questioned if my comment on seeing darkness in or around a person is in scripture? Sometimes I do know the Spirits name other times I don't...

I asked my Pastor and he said yes... It's under the gift of disernment of Spirits...

1 Corinthians 12:10

What do yall have to say and are there any among you who also have this gift?
 

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I have to be very, very careful about this type of thing. "Seeing" auras, or spirits, or whatever is one thing...know what you are seeing is another.

The problem is, knowing what you are seeing. Are you "seeing a person's spirit" or "seeing a spirit interacting with a person" or "seeing a person's energy field" or "seeing hallucinations". To be honest, I'm a bit afraid of looking more into this because of the direction it could take me. I gave up all of my active abilities when I came back to Christ, but things I've studied and learned to do passively...they are all still there. It's not something I can easily unlearn. This would be a good example of one of those things...

I do know this, while God can use anyone, and any ability, they aren't necessary, and the ability to see spirits will not bring you any closer to God.
 
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Yea I had it, and knew it to be a false gift, and rejected it.
How can we be "dispitfuly used," and "taken advantage
of," and all other things that can happen to us, if we have
Spiritual X-Ray vision.


It is Bogus!!!!!!!!!!!!


How could Dr. James Dobson, minister to Ted Bundy,
when He claimed He repented, and was saved, if we could
all just know it it were true.


So Doctor Dobson, ministered to Him, in His ongoing fight
against pornography as well, and was ridiculed for doing
so, by Playboy!!!!!!!!!!


And as such, Dr. Dobson, had to wheather the storm thru
Humility, saying if Bundy was lying, but Dobson showed a
forgiving and humble Spirit, then God could accept that
Humility to advert even further disastor by other Bundies,
since God, would heap Burning coals upon Bundy, or His
successors, if God so chose, because some Believers
were showing Humility,


Rather than the lost world, cheering about Bundy, to Burn,
Burn, Burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Where Our Humility, allows God to let Him burn, without
Us being found guilty of Pride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because if Bundy burns in Hell or not, Dobson was correct,
in heading Bundy asking for help,


So I would not mind knowing that Pastor, because I would
tell Him He were wrong to His face!!!



And Dr. Dobson, a Christian Clinical Psychologist, did the
only thing He could do, when He ministered to Bundy's needs,
Irregardless, of whether Bundy is headed to Hell or not!!!

And of cource, My rebuking that Pastor, who if saved can
handle the Criticism, because it is the Buisness they are
in. But to the lost We have to be more carefull. This is why
We can tend to fight amongst ourselves more easily,
since we seem to take for granted We knoew we are all
the same, but are more carefull in how We deal with the
Lost ----and inspite of My disapointments, I need to learn
to be more humble towards the saved, even though I am
more cautious with the lost.

May Christ Richly Bless Those Who Truly Love Him, Amen.
 
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There was such a rare gift given to the disciples, but in
these quite dangerours times, for the lost Church of
Laodicea, otherwise the end of the world would not be
here, then such a gift should filter out, and straighten up
the Body Of Christ, shouldn't it??????????????????


So in fact today, I see the gift as functioning in a more
restricted role, related to One-Worldism, the Spirit of the
Anti-Christ in the World, Discernment OF Church
Movements, etc..,



But not picking individuals out one at a time, like I had
happen to Me, when I was First Saved, and walked into a
Jesus Book And Gift Book Store, for the first time, to
purchase My first Bible, and I could tell who was good, and
who was evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Pure Unadulterated Rubbish, and I rejected this false Gift,
without looking back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


God Bless.
 
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Then again I have a difficult time arguing with Violet,
because She is allways so "Cheery," that it makes Me not
want to argue with Her Cheerful Wisdom,

But prior to Her post, I still had to post how I felt about it.
And if one were to cast out demons, and needed to
discern that,

does that not constitute a special case, in which the signs
of possession were manifest?????

Because I still can not believe we can walk down the
street saying, yes, no, yes, yes, maybee......

And I had to speak up again, saying if the usage is more
limmited and discrete I could believe it could be the
genuine article is all I am saying


And what scares Me the most, is Violet's lack of correcting
Me, that's some pretty scary silence:(

God Bless.
 

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It can be very scary, to be sure. But, once you've opened your eyes to certain things, they simply can never be closed again. That can be good, and it can be bad.

Beyond that, it doesn't really work the way you are describing it either. Even more importantly, is to not let false discernment cloud your judgment.

There is a danger in these things, and I'd honestly tell anyone that has the ability to NOT see it, to do exactly that.
 
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Thank You for saying Hi Violet. It is much scarier when
You get all silent on Me.:(
Just Kidding, but not about the Hi part,:D


Well anyway ---it made Me remember:
To the best of My abilities, aswell as I can
remember, I allege, remembering, something
like the following:

Dr. James Dobson is a Christian Clinical
Psycologist, who I had heard on His Christian radio show,
"Focus on the family." And He had ministered to the
needs of Ted Bundy, when I think He was involved in
Bundy's claim that pornography had been an evil
influence in His life, and that it was the evil Spirit from
that relationship, which led Him deeper, and deeper into
trouble, to where He allowed Himself to go, and to which
He would not take responsibility for His actions, and life.

And then Bundy claimed to be saved, while in prision, if I
remember, so Dr. Dobson ministered unto Him, saying it
was not His place to know, but be there for Him, incase it
were real,


But Playboy had gone after Dr. Dobson, labeling Him a
Christian Theologian, which He is not, and by extention,
labeling Christian Theologians as serial Killer Lovers and
all, as I allege remembering hearing Dr. Dobson recount
the attacks They were under by Playboy, which I had
heard on Dr. Dobson's radio broadcast,

And therefore we often suffer, as Christians, and get
labeled, and attacked, because there is not enough
Spiritual X-Ray Vision going around.
And of cource since Dobson took on Playboy, they realy
went after Him.


God Bless.
 
I have to be very, very careful about this type of thing. "Seeing" auras, or spirits, or whatever is one thing...know what you are seeing is another.

OH! yes I agree... I actually see nothing with my physical eyes...I don't see auras... Only 1 time long ago did I see the evil spirit in someone... I am new to actually speaking out what I see, so I consider myself a novice... I wait, test to see if what I saw was correct...I ask the Lord... I do not go around seeking spirits... or see everyone with an evil spirit...

The problem is, knowing what you are seeing. Are you "seeing a person's spirit" or "seeing a spirit interacting with a person" or "seeing a person's energy field" or "seeing hallucinations".

No, I do not yet see a spirit interacting with a person, or an energy field, seeing Hallucinations is why I am careful, but I had seen certain spirits that I later found out was the truth...

Seeing a persons spirit, that is a good question... The last one Doloris, I believe I saw a witchcraft spirit and all the others that come with it... That's why in a previous post I mention Santaria...


To be honest, I'm a bit afraid of looking more into this because of the direction it could take me.

Well years ago I had many questions relating to demons and tried to research it but the Lord said NO! Several times through several different persons that didn't know me..
This may be your case... perhaps this is not for you, or not for you at this season...

I gave up all of my active abilities when I came back to Christ, but things I've studied and learned to do passively...they are all still there. It's not something I can easily unlearn. This would be a good example of one of those things... Lay it before the Father...:):shepherd:

The gift I asked for from the Lord is the gift of great Faith and Healing... Not Disearnment of Spirits...

I do know this, while God can use anyone, and any ability, they aren't necessary, and the ability to see spirits will not bring you any closer to God.
OH! I agree, I don't think most of the Gifts brings you closer, it is written that those who appear with such gifts but don't know the Lord, He will not recieve them...

Thank YOu so much for your input... God Bless You
 
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Because I still can not believe we can walk down the
street saying, yes, no, yes, yes, maybee......


God Bless.
No! there is no walking down the street saying yes, and no!

I have never cast out a demon...I don't believe the Lord has given me that ability or gift ... There was an instance where a severly mentally ill person who was also on drugs fell on the floor, I prayed as I heard her screaming...I knew she had demons but the Lord said to me Just love her and didn't give the OK for casting out... I was so glad...
 
Beyond that, it doesn't really work the way you are describing it either.

Could you be clearer please... And do you have Bible verses?
What you are speaking of may not be what I have? How is it suppose to be...?

Even more importantly, is to not let false discernment cloud your judgment.
Yes ! I agree, but how do I know it is false disearnment???

There is a danger in these things, and I'd honestly tell anyone that has the ability to NOT see it, to do exactly that.
What is the danger? If the Lord has given this gift and you use it according to His instructions???
 
We need the nine gifts more than ever. We need the nine fruits more than ever. We need the fivefold ministry more than ever. I do not and cannot limit God.
YES! Larry we do need all these things... You are so wise to understand this and not place God in a box...

Maybe the Lord gives me the ability, because I am not frightened to see them, but the thought scares me to cast them out because of the warning that 7 more evil that the first enters that person, if the house is empty and sweeped clean...
 
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I am sorry, I thought we were talking about that fake one

I was given. Sorry:eek:



If it is limmited, and not that stupid Spiritual X-Ray Vision

fake I was given, then it's ok.

Because we all have ups and downs and strugles, and

there should be times when it works, and others which

require more Prayers and strugles,

As none of us are perfect,

And we all face tests and trials,

And some things we face are stronger

trials than others,

like My posts???????????:(

Sorry, I thought it was the one I had:confused:


Can I hide now, :fish: :fish: :fish: :fish::fish:


God Bless,


And just try and pick out which one is Me,

because I'm hidding:D