Amazing How many Cults arose just in 19 Century

bobinfaith said:
Good morning,

I have a question. Is anyone aware of the Church of God Pentecostal out of Cleveland, Tennessee and the Church of God Wesleyan Arminianism out of Anderson, Indiana?

I received my grounding from the latter Church of God, South San Francisco in the 1990s. We attended many men's retreats, family camps, Church camp, Billy Graham, etc...

Bob
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Now it has been many years since I did any work on these two but if I recall, The COG of Cleveland Tenn. is a "Full Gospel" Pentecostal church. It has a majority of black worshippers. They accept the 2nd blessing of the Holy Spirit as necessary to salvation and teach speaking in tongues, miracles and the all of the Sign Gifts.

The COG in Anderson Ind. is NOT Pentecostal. It is evangelical and holiness in theology and practice. It is Arminian in flavor and Holiness but not Pentecostal in emphasis. I would also say It is considered "Liberal" compared with many conservative evangelical denominations especially with regard to women’s leadership.
 
YeshuaFan said:
Telling note is that the bible NEVER commands us to seek that Baptism of the Holy Ghost, nor the "second blessing", but are commanded to seek the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Even if there was the gift of tongues for todasy, per the Bible, its as the Holy Spirit would administer it being given, and that tongue would have to be in a known human language not learned by the speaker, and would not be the gibberish heard so many times in churches today
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Correct!
 
Major said:
Now it has been many years since I did any work on these two but if I recall, The COG of Cleveland Tenn. is a "Full Gospel" Pentecostal church. It has a majority of black worshippers. They accept the 2nd blessing of the Holy Spirit as necessary to salvation and teach speaking in tongues, miracles and the all of the Sign Gifts.

The COG in Anderson Ind. is NOT Pentecostal. It is evangelical and holiness in theology and practice. It is Arminian in flavor and Holiness but not Pentecostal in emphasis. I would also say It is considered "Liberal" compared with many conservative evangelical denominations especially with regard to women’s leadership.
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My understanding also Maj,

One note about “liberalism” you mentioned of the Indiana crew I personally as a more strict reader of Scripture do not interpret as women being raised to the higher leadership position of elders.

Women indeed are held in high regard by Saint Paul. In many of his letters addressing individuals in the greeting as a matter of priority put som humble women such as Priscilla and Lydia over even the men.

Personally I adhere to m husband’s leadership
99% of the time <grin> because well he’s an engineer yet raised with his mother’s heart of an Eunice and Lois. He was a fine elder.

<Mabe
 
Added this new thread since I waxed into morphing on Women in Leadership Roles that could be construed as usurping Elder leadership roles.

Women may be deacons but not elders. Women may "minister" (there are many roles of ministering not involving preaching The Gospel) but they may NOT be elders. This has become a huge splitting point in many denominations including Presbyterian and Baptist for instance.

I was a member briefly of a Presbyterian Church that split from USA Session to join an Evangelical Session because part of the congregation objected to a women standing at the pulpit delivering just one talk. This was previous to me becoming a member. I left that church for another reason in that they chose to follow the edicts of UN The World Council of Churches.

This is not me talking but rather Saint Paul to Timothy and Titus re: the eldership of men only - in fact only mature men only.

male elders in the church requirements

Women in The Bible

Bible Study Org

(See New Bookmarks Thread)

~ Mabe's Mama, wife of a former Elder
 
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