Anybody else preparing for rising prices and possible food scarcity?

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Siloam started a thread titled 'Inflated Prices', and I thought it might be a good idea share practical tips on how to cope with rising inflation and the possibility of global food and product scarcity.

With this in mind I put together a very basic list of what I think essential supplies to stock up on are. (What we buy and how we prepare will differ because of culture and diet preferences.)

A few things to keep in mind when doing this:
  • store items with a later expiry date behind the ones which will expire sooner;
  • only buy what you already use and know how to prepare;
  • only buy what you really feel you might need in order to prevent wastefulness.
Food with a longer shelf life:
Flour, white rice, pasta, popcorn
Baking Powder, dry yeast, cornstarch
Oatmeal and other cereals
Coffee, tea, hot chocolate, etc.
Peanut butter, jam/jellies
Honey, syrup
Chicken and beef bullion
Salt, pepper, seasoning, spices, and dried herbs
Oil, vinegar, soy sauce
Beans, lentils, peas
Tomato paste, ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise
Canned food such as sardines, tuna, chicken, etc. (I don't really like canned food, but I do keep a few cans in case of emergency)
Powdered milk
UHT (long life) milk

Food with a shorter shelf life:
Butter, margarine, lard
Frozen meat and vegetables

Other:
Cleaning materials
Personal hygiene products
Batteries
Water filter with extra filters
First Aid Kit
Prescription medication
Plastic bags (garbage, freezer and sandwich bags)

I am looking forward to your replies.
Blessings!
 
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Good thread paidforinfull

Also, wonder if there are any survival people on here who enjoy knowing which foods are available in nature year round?

I know it’s dangerous to go picking random stuff out in the open, as we all know there are some poisonous stuff out there… but I know of a few things in the U.K. that are completely edible i know of. It’s good to look up some images before picking them and if possible to have someone who knows their stuff.
And how I’ll we know if they are credible?

Make them eat some first😊
 
Via dolarossa said:
Good thread paidforinfull

Also, wonder if there are any survival people on here who enjoy knowing which foods are available in nature year round?

I know it’s dangerous to go picking random stuff out in the open, as we all know there are some poisonous stuff out there… but I know of a few things in the U.K. that are completely edible i know of. It’s good to look up some images before picking them and if possible to have someone who knows their stuff.
And how I’ll we know if they are credible?

Make them eat some first😊
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Yes, foraging is a great idea!

(It's also good to learn more about available medicinal plants in one's neighborhood, if possible. Our neighbor said she will teach me.)
 
It really depends on where you live for food.
If you have a climate like where I am, food can be grown all year round.

For those in colder climates, you need to store, can and preserve or freeze.
salting, and drying food is usually the method.

If your local food supplies are all good, and in place and you have a vege garden there shouldn't be any problem.

The most important thing to have would be seeds - set up a seed saving network. Cuba did grow everything when they were embargoed, although it took a few years to get into full organic food production, they did it. And now they are self-sufficient as a nation.
 
Lanolin said:
It really depends on where you live for food.
If you have a climate like where I am, food can be grown all year round.

For those in colder climates, you need to store, can and preserve or freeze.
salting, and drying food is usually the method.

If your local food supplies are all good, and in place and you have a vege garden there shouldn't be any problem.

The most important thing to have would be seeds - set up a seed saving network. Cuba did grow everything when they were embargoed, although it took a few years to get into full organic food production, they did it. And now they are self-sufficient as a nation.
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Yes, seeds are very important!
 
My wife has habitually kept a fairly large supply of food. I guess it stems from her childhood, not to mention that during a snow storm we do not choose to venture over the ridge to town until we are confident of the roads. While not really being what is termed a 'prepper', it has resulted in a good deal of stuff in our basement.

For long term storage, I suggest looking at camping food. While not cheap, they have a long shelf life. Many are designed to have a wide coverage of daily vitamins, minerals, etc. Buy it in the off season.

We also have set of shelves in the coldest part of our basement where we store lots of canned and jar foods. This allows us to wait until things go on sale (preferably a deep sale with significant price incentives).

Near these shelves of cans and jars we have a chest freezer.

Now eventually we have to cycle old stuff out faster than we eat it. We share with neighbors around us, etc. We gave a frozen turkey and frozen veggies to our next door neighbors when we defrosted our freezer. We have also found that a church in our area has a cabinet just outside their door where people can leave canned and unopened jars of food, and the hungry can come and pick up a few things.

We are also not too concerned with fashion trends, and we tend to buy winter stuff in the spring when stores are clearing shelves, and summer stuff in the fall. Its not always the best selling items, but often its some very nice things.

Old clothes and stuff gets taken either to relatives in the area of to the local good-will.
Via dolarossa said:
Also, wonder if there are any survival people on here who enjoy knowing which foods are available in nature year round?
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My wife who grew up right here in western Maryland used to go into the woods and pick berries, etc. She says that most of those things are gone.

We do have several apple trees, an old pear tree, and a cherry tree. The apple trees are getting old, but they still give fruit. The other fruit trees are favorites of local deer. And we have a grape arbor. The vines are rather old an gnarled, but I trim them a little and they produce a few grapes every year.
 
Siloam said:
My wife has habitually kept a fairly large supply of food. I guess it stems from her childhood, not to mention that during a snow storm we do not choose to venture over the ridge to town until we are confident of the roads. While not really being what is termed a 'prepper', it has resulted in a good deal of stuff in our basement.

For long term storage, I suggest looking at camping food. While not cheap, they have a long shelf life. Many are designed to have a wide coverage of daily vitamins, minerals, etc. Buy it in the off season.

We also have set of shelves in the coldest part of our basement where we store lots of canned and jar foods. This allows us to wait until things go on sale (preferably a deep sale with significant price incentives).

Near these shelves of cans and jars we have a chest freezer.

Now eventually we have to cycle old stuff out faster than we eat it. We share with neighbors around us, etc. We gave a frozen turkey and frozen veggies to our next door neighbors when we defrosted our freezer. We have also found that a church in our area has a cabinet just outside their door where people can leave canned and unopened jars of food, and the hungry can come and pick up a few things.

We are also not too concerned with fashion trends, and we tend to buy winter stuff in the spring when stores are clearing shelves, and summer stuff in the fall. Its not always the best selling items, but often its some very nice things.

Old clothes and stuff gets taken either to relatives in the area of to the local good-will.


My wife who grew up right here in western Maryland used to go into the woods and pick berries, etc. She says that most of those things are gone.

We do have several apple trees, an old pear tree, and a cherry tree. The apple trees are getting old, but they still give fruit. The other fruit trees are favorites of local deer. And we have a grape arbor. The vines are rather old an gnarled, but I trim them a little and they produce a few grapes every year.
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Thank you for your input - it sounds as if you and your wife are very well prepared.

I really like good quality dehydrated food, but it is difficult to get hold of where I live. I reached out to a US company, but they are not shipping to Mexico at the moment because they cannot even keep up with fulfilling orders in the US.

I totally agree with donating any surplus food or other items to other people who can use it. Waste is so unnecessary.

Fruit trees and a vegetable garden will probably become a necessity for many in the days to come. Trees take so long to grow, though, but bananas and pawpaws grow relatively fast in hotter climates.

Blessings.
 
You can even grow some veggies and herbs inside an apartment if you want to.

I used to live in an apartment with a big sunny window and decided to grow a 'window garden'. Apartment balconies are also usually suitable for potted veggie gardens. (If you want to invest more money into your garden you can buy an aquaponics system.)

I cut the bottom parts off soda bottles, painted the top parts to protect the roots from the sun, drilled holes in the bottle caps, strung them upside down, and added small pebbles and potting soil. I put planters or a cup underneath to catch the surplus dripping water. You only need to water the top plants because the water drips down and waters the rest.

This is what my endeavor looked like. If you grow tomatoes you can use earbuds to artificially pollinate the flowers.

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Lanolin said:
I think those living in apartments would suit a hydroponics system, because it would be gravity fed. Getting soil up high can be problematic. Also think about growing vines, lots of edible plants are climbers.
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Hi Lanolin:

I agree: if you have the means, and if you live in a country where you have easy access to aquaponic- or hydroponic systems, you should absolutely go for it!

Unfortunately that's not the case for many people in this world, so it's time to get creative 😊! Shipping delays might also create a shortage in countries where people can get hold of it easily at the moment - we simply do not know what is going to happen.

If you look at the first photo you will notice that the bottles are not out of reach. You can also install a trellis if you want to grow vines.

Blessings.
 
You can make your own hydroponics by using pipes and gutters and making up your own solution, I've seen it done. You don't actually have to buy things ready made, often you can just use resources you've already got - if you look around, you already have plenty.

For fertiliser, if you have worms you can make worm juice out of kitchen scraps.
Or weed tea. Just soak weeds in a bucket. There is no need to buy chemical fertiliser when you can make your own. Also, animals are a free source of manure.

People just like buying things cos its easier and cheaper for them. Or they just want something 'new'. But they often overlook what they already have or fail to take care and repair what they already have.

Value your gardens and garden knowledge because if you can coax life out of barren soil you can go on to regenerate your land and it will become productive. You can do this even in urban areas. Your aim is to perpetuate a virtuous cycle, not a downward spiral. Once you are on the Way, you'll get there.

If the devil wants to take away your comfort and blessings or sanction everything, well he cannot shake faith. Cos we have a Redeemer.

People have managed to survive without global trade before. In fact, if trade was stopped, I am sure people would find it within themselves to survive - it can also go to the other extreme of, one countries free trades can actually cause dependency, famine and unemployment and slavery in another.
 
Lanolin said:
You can make your own hydroponics by using pipes and gutters and making up your own solution, I've seen it done. You don't actually have to buy things ready made, often you can just use resources you've already got - if you look around, you already have plenty.

For fertiliser, if you have worms you can make worm juice out of kitchen scraps.
Or weed tea. Just soak weeds in a bucket. There is no need to buy chemical fertiliser when you can make your own. Also, animals are a free source of manure.

People just like buying things cos its easier and cheaper for them. Or they just want something 'new'. But they often overlook what they already have or fail to take care and repair what they already have.

Value your gardens and garden knowledge because if you can coax life out of barren soil you can go on to regenerate your land and it will become productive. You can do this even in urban areas. Your aim is to perpetuate a virtuous cycle, not a downward spiral. Once you are on the Way, you'll get there.
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That is great advice, if you have a garden. If you live in an apartment, like I did, that won't be easy to manage.
 
There are rooftops on a lot of apartments that can use a hydroponic system and as I said, vines can grow up, from balcony to balcony in pots. I mentioned hydroponics because it is NOT a garden on the ground its all done by water/liquid. So no soil involved.

You will however, need light so use the sunny side of the apartment.
 
Sometimes I often wonder how we even survived in the ancient world.

We had to forage and hunt and plant and gather…

There was famines back then and weather disasters, pests and diseases etc…

We didn’t have the tools, nor the tech,

All this, and scrapping over territory.

Looking back, I think we have it easy now.

we can beat most of the things on the list now, but can’t even afford them🙁
 
I think each age has its challenges.

Some had more tools than others...Maori did not have iron/metal they had stone age technology but yea they did fight over territory a lot, the best planting grounds, fishing grounds etc.

People still fight over territory in this modern age. Think about your national/local elections and how that's a bun fight! What about in our own homes, people still fight with each other over territory hence...rise in divorce!

In workplaces, people fight for status and hierarchy and who gets paid the most and tells everyone else what to do. Some burn out and others lose it, and there are still lots of workplace deaths and casualties, just different kinds.
 
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