Can a Christian or a man that recently accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour be possessed by demons/impure spirits? And any experience ...

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The way I see it is this.;
If you was fully possessed by a demon, how would you know?
Anyway, there’s a lot of good posts on this subject, and it’s prompted me to respond with my experience.
I am harassed from time to time by the devil and his minions but not half as much nowadays, but I see Acceptance of Christ as a process. ( I often get derailed😞)
Befor, when I Was tempted I never spotted it until when it was too late, I suppose I never quite put on all the armour.
So yeh, I agree that’s there’s no such thing as a possessed Christian. Just a half dressed one,
 
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Amen, Major! I agree with you on the second one. Its a Spiritual Battle.



So true, YeshuaFan, thank you for pointing Paul's battles.

You know, from witnessing Christians that are growing in their prayer life, reading the Word and learning how to discern God's purpose for them, I have heard them express that they are so tired of the false teaching of devil possession and conjured up ministries to confront them.

Our brother Peki posted this thread to stimulate discussion, all for good, and keeping an open heart by what others posted is also good. It blesses me to personally learn more of your views according to the Scriptures, and how we are one in Christ's Body as well as serving in the same Army of God.

1 Timothy 6:3-5, 3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

Merry Christmas, brothers and sisters.

I have said before that in my opinion, we have heard more about casting out demons, and possessions ever since Hollywood came out with Exorcism movies.

Monkey see.....monkey do.

I have been to many places all over this earth. I have seen some terrible things do by people. During missionary trips, I have seen some terrible people. I have witnessed witch doctors in Uganda and physic practioneners as well as voodoo services. in Central America. ALL of them were demonically motivated and Satan was behind ALL of them.

I have personally dealt with mentally disturbed people but I have never witnessed a demonic possession and exorcism and I am pretty sure I never will.
 
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The way I see it is this.;
If you was fully possessed by a demon, how would you know?
Anyway, there’s a lot of good posts on this subject, and it’s prompted me to respond with my experience.
I am harassed from time to time by the devil and his minions but not half as much nowadays, but I see Acceptance of Christ as a process. ( I often get derailed😞)
Befor, when I Was tempted I never spotted it until when it was too late, I suppose I never quite put on all the armour.
So yeh, I agree that’s there’s no such thing as a possessed Christian. Just a half dressed one,

Never forget this fact.......:We ALL are tempted and oppressed by Satan and his demons all of our lives".

Now the key is this.....do YOU say to them as did Jesus, Satan, "It is Written"!......Get thee behind me!
 
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Yes I still get tempted a lot. And when I catch it I don’t exactly say get behind me, but I do remember to stop!
Why does the bible say “ it is written” ?
I know it’s written I can read!!!

I am so glad you asked that question.

No matter what the question is or the problem we have in life, the answer is always IN THE WORD OF GOD.
That is why Jesus said......"It is written".

He was referring to the Old Test. He did not say....."I think or In my opinion or I believe we should do this or that".


He said that it is God who said this and that. He used the Word of God for His answer in dealing with Satan.
 
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I am so glad you asked that question.

No matter what the question is or the problem we have in life, the answer is always IN THE WORD OF GOD.
That is why Jesus said......"It is written".

He was referring to the Old Test. He did not say....."I think or In my opinion or I believe we should do this or that".


He said that it is God who said this and that. He used the Word of God for His answer in dealing with Satan.
Interesting that even he being very God Himself used the scriptures!
 

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Yes I still get tempted a lot. And when I catch it I don’t exactly say get behind me, but I do remember to stop!
Why does the bible say “ it is written” ?
I know it’s written I can read!!!

Hello Via;

When you make the statements, "I still get tempted a lot." and "I know it’s written I can read!!!" God hears our hearts and rests His case with each one of us.

"It is written" is because we do get tempted, we will always have to be reminded, however, the context of "It is written" is a positive meaning, He Loves Us, reminds us, and cautions us against temptation but also equips us.

In Matthew 4:4, 7 and 10 Jesus is rebuking Satan and teaching those of us who follow Him;

4 But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

7 Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”


Of course we can read it for ourselves, but as we grow in our study, God fills each one of us the deeper meaning of His Word, for example, "It is written" allows us to confidently go forth and do what is written in our daily application for His glory.

Bringing it back to the verb of this topic, in Matthew 4:4, 7, 10 Jesus is teaching that we are empowered and equipped to rebuke Satan and God will complete the rest and bring us back to Him, no matter our circumstances.

God bless you and Merry Christmas.
 
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The title pretty much says what I want to ask. Some people say that if you are have recently came to Jesus Christ that there might be some possession ongoing. What if you haven’t had water baptism done, does it make you more susceptible? Do you have to be baptised in water?

Has anyone on this forum ever had and experience where someone has had demons cast out of him?

Thanks

I am editing to ad the following question: Has anyone witnessed healing by laying of hands?

Thanks
No, as the Holy Spirit now indwells this temple, and he keeps others outside!
 
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THe word "Truth" is elusive to many people who do not read the Bible.

You see, when the Word of God is not accepted then it is easy for Satan to plant false ideas into the minds of those who have NO anchor in life to hold them secured.
You have to be really deluded to think that Christians can have demons cast out in church and shown by throwing them up into pails and buckets!
 
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Interesting that even he being very God Himself used the scriptures!

Some people have failed to grasp the meaning of Colossians 1:16-17.........
"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

The Greek construction here refers to "in him" or "through him." Creation, as described in the book of Genesis, took place by the power of Jesus the Son as well as the Father and Spirit (Genesis 1:1–3). This verse is Paul's effort to show the all-encompassing nature of Christ's creative power. It included absolutely everything imaginable: heaven, earth, visible, invisible. And, it included all living things, such as the angels and spiritual powers. Paul uses similar wording in Romans 8:37–39, referring to all possible aspects of creation. There, his intent is to show that nothing whatsoever can separate the believer from God's love.

Paul also adds that all things are made by Jesus, and they are also created through Jesus, and for Jesus. Since Jesus is God, all of reality is the result of His own power. Creation exists for His glory (John 17:24). Paul would use similar words in Romans 11:36, saying, "For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen."

That then means that the Bible came into existence through Jesus Christ Himself giving the words to men to write down. Some will same it was the Holy Spirit but the Holy Spirit IS Jesus Christ and both are IN THE FATER!

Jesus used the Scriptures because He IS the Scriptures.
 
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Some people have failed to grasp the meaning of Colossians 1:16-17.........
"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

The Greek construction here refers to "in him" or "through him." Creation, as described in the book of Genesis, took place by the power of Jesus the Son as well as the Father and Spirit (Genesis 1:1–3). This verse is Paul's effort to show the all-encompassing nature of Christ's creative power. It included absolutely everything imaginable: heaven, earth, visible, invisible. And, it included all living things, such as the angels and spiritual powers. Paul uses similar wording in Romans 8:37–39, referring to all possible aspects of creation. There, his intent is to show that nothing whatsoever can separate the believer from God's love.

Paul also adds that all things are made by Jesus, and they are also created through Jesus, and for Jesus. Since Jesus is God, all of reality is the result of His own power. Creation exists for His glory (John 17:24). Paul would use similar words in Romans 11:36, saying, "For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen."

That then means that the Bible came into existence through Jesus Christ Himself giving the words to men to write down. Some will same it was the Holy Spirit but the Holy Spirit IS Jesus Christ and both are IN THE FATER!

Jesus used the Scriptures because He IS the Scriptures.
he is the living eternal Word of the father!
 
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The title pretty much says what I want to ask. Some people say that if you are have recently came to Jesus Christ that there might be some possession ongoing. What if you haven’t had water baptism done, does it make you more susceptible? Do you have to be baptised in water?

Has anyone on this forum ever had and experience where someone has had demons cast out of him?

Thanks

I am editing to ad the following question: Has anyone witnessed healing by laying of hands?

Thanks

Demons are lying spirits. The kind that alone comes out with prayer and fasting seeking in order to be heard on high ( the will of God) in a hope of him moving empowering us to work it out . Him making the load lighter .

Sometimes slowing down like the old song "Feeling Groovy" (Simon and Garfuncle) can strengthen a person for the unexpected. Philiaipian 1 :6 informs us . . if he has begun the good work of savaltion in us he will finish it to the end .let him be your confidence whether times are or good or evil in that way no man can dicsover his future helping us keep focus.

There is nothing we can do other than share the fruits of our labor we have in Emanauel (God with us) . Both fruits those seen and those not seen, the gospel . . .you could say mixed fruit. .

Having doubt can be a work of the unseen Spirit moving a person to be heard on high. This is not the same as the asccuser of the brethern he accuses the belivers day and night for not trusting what the eyes see..

A good example is given when John the baptist had doubt right before he was beheaded. Heard on high moved by the Spirit he sent for the answer to the end of his faith. . . taking away all doubt. .

In that parable below many gospel metaphors I believe are used to express the good news .John as a result of the understanding of that parable entered his eternal rest .

Luke7:19:22 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.
Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Laying on of hands .In that way in the Bible what the eyes see was performed by the will of Him not seen. (A mutual work of faith or labor of love) Jesus the Son of man seen who delighted in doing the will of the unseen Father

Hands in the bible are used to represent the will .Laying on of hands literally reveals the will of man seen .Spiritually not seen the will or hand of God. It’s the work of the unseen Spirit that can profit .We would never give over the unseen power of the Holy Spirit to human hands. We have that treasure working in us with us but it is of God, not mankind. God does not heal by human hands he is not served by them .He who has no needs satisfies all.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Laying on of hands like folding of ones hands or bowing is a humble expression, an appeal to be heard of High promted by one that can strengthen ones feeble mind or body if one has sinned they can be forgiven.
 
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Demons are lying spirits. The kind that alone comes out with prayer and fasting seeking in order to be heard on high ( the will of God) in a hope of him moving empowering us to work it out . Him making the load lighter .

Sometimes slowing down like the old song "Feeling Groovy" (Simon and Garfuncle) can strengthen a person for the unexpected. Philiaipian 1 :6 informs us . . if he has begun the good work of savaltion in us he will finish it to the end .let him be your confidence whether times are or good or evil in that way no man can dicsover his future helping us keep focus.

There is nothing we can do other than share the fruits of our labor we have in Emanauel (God with us) . Both fruits those seen and those not seen, the gospel . . .you could say mixed fruit. .

Having doubt can be a work of the unseen Spirit moving a person to be heard on high. This is not the same as the asccuser of the brethern he accuses the belivers day and night for not trusting what the eyes see..

A good example is given when John the baptist had doubt right before he was beheaded. Heard on high moved by the Spirit he sent for the answer to the end of his faith. . . taking away all doubt. .

In that parable below many gospel metaphors I believe are used to express the good news .John as a result of the understanding of that parable entered his eternal rest .

Luke7:19:22 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.
Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Laying on of hands .In that way in the Bible what the eyes see was performed by the will of Him not seen. (A mutual work of faith or labor of love) Jesus the Son of man seen who delighted in doing the will of the unseen Father

Hands in the bible are used to represent the will .Laying on of hands literally reveals the will of man seen .Spiritually not seen the will or hand of God. It’s the work of the unseen Spirit that can profit .We would never give over the unseen power of the Holy Spirit to human hands. We have that treasure working in us with us but it is of God, not mankind. God does not heal by human hands he is not served by them .He who has no needs satisfies all.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Laying on of hands like folding of ones hands or bowing is a humble expression, an appeal to be heard of High promted by one that can strengthen ones feeble mind or body if one has sinned they can be forgiven.
Christians can not be demon possessed, and the unsaved can be, but demons must obey the Lord Jesus and depart, but the person needs then to receive Jesus as Lord to get saved!
 
THe word "Truth" is elusive to many people who do not read the Bible.

You see, when the Word of God is not accepted then it is easy for Satan to plant false ideas into the minds of those who have NO anchor in life to hold them secured.
A sad reality, unfortunately. Wherever there is the name Christian we can be sure that liars and deceivers will be found chasing us.
 
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A sad reality, unfortunately. Wherever there is the name Christian we can be sure that liars and deceivers will be found chasing us.

Yes, sometimes they are your own family and friends who remember a not so glorious past. So many see a person as their sins rather than an action of a sinner that God can be cleansed.

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I have said before that in my opinion, we have heard more about casting out demons, and possessions ever since Hollywood came out with Exorcism movies.

Monkey see.....monkey do.

I have been to many places all over this earth. I have seen some terrible things do by people. During missionary trips, I have seen some terrible people. I have witnessed witch doctors in Uganda and physic practioneners as well as voodoo services. in Central America. ALL of them were demonically motivated and Satan was behind ALL of them.

I have personally dealt with mentally disturbed people but I have never witnessed a demonic possession and exorcism and I am pretty sure I never will.
I have no doubt that there is still demonic activities right now happening on Earth, and that satan tries to hinder the Church when it moves out into the missions field with that, but thank God Jesus overcomes!
I also just wonder in America with so much alcoholism and drug use and new age religions and cults, if there is more demonic activity then we know, as we just assume mental illness or being physically sick!
 
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Demons are lying spirits. The kind that alone comes out with prayer and fasting seeking in order to be heard on high ( the will of God) in a hope of him moving empowering us to work it out . Him making the load lighter .

Sometimes slowing down like the old song "Feeling Groovy" (Simon and Garfuncle) can strengthen a person for the unexpected. Philiaipian 1 :6 informs us . . if he has begun the good work of savaltion in us he will finish it to the end .let him be your confidence whether times are or good or evil in that way no man can dicsover his future helping us keep focus.

There is nothing we can do other than share the fruits of our labor we have in Emanauel (God with us) . Both fruits those seen and those not seen, the gospel . . .you could say mixed fruit. .

Having doubt can be a work of the unseen Spirit moving a person to be heard on high. This is not the same as the asccuser of the brethern he accuses the belivers day and night for not trusting what the eyes see..

A good example is given when John the baptist had doubt right before he was beheaded. Heard on high moved by the Spirit he sent for the answer to the end of his faith. . . taking away all doubt. .

In that parable below many gospel metaphors I believe are used to express the good news .John as a result of the understanding of that parable entered his eternal rest .

Luke7:19:22 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.
Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Laying on of hands .In that way in the Bible what the eyes see was performed by the will of Him not seen. (A mutual work of faith or labor of love) Jesus the Son of man seen who delighted in doing the will of the unseen Father

Hands in the bible are used to represent the will .Laying on of hands literally reveals the will of man seen .Spiritually not seen the will or hand of God. It’s the work of the unseen Spirit that can profit .We would never give over the unseen power of the Holy Spirit to human hands. We have that treasure working in us with us but it is of God, not mankind. God does not heal by human hands he is not served by them .He who has no needs satisfies all.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Laying on of hands like folding of ones hands or bowing is a humble expression, an appeal to be heard of High promted by one that can strengthen ones feeble mind or body if one has sinned they can be forgiven.
Jesus had all demons leave at first command!
 
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I have no doubt that there is still demonic activities right now happening on Earth, and that satan tries to hinder the Church when it moves out into the missions field with that, but thank God Jesus overcomes!
I also just wonder in America with so much alcoholism and drug use and new age religions and cults, if there is more demonic activity then we know, as we just assume mental illness or being physically sick!

Agreed. Stan has from the beginning used "Religion" as his best weapon. If people believe in "Religion" more than Jesus, then he has accomplished his goal.
 
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