Do Cessationists Believe that Revivals Happen?

Major said:
And now..........The rest of the story is that Yep...you did. In 1955 - 356.000 attended......1978 - 7,000 saved.......1981 x 2 had 10,000 saved.........1995 had 261,500 over 5 days attend.
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What is important for anything like this is for local churches to be involved, as they must follow up to get any saved members now "churched and discipled"
 
YeshuaFan said:
thr granddaddy of all of that was the so called Asuza "revival" 1906, where everything went bonkers
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Unfortunately, the emphasis on tongues as the only evidence of filling by the Holy Spirit is unbiblical and leads to error and excess as we now see in the Prosperity Gospel.

You see, when the door to error and heresy is cracked, the flood of false teachings always follow because men always.........
"Follow the money"!
 
bobinfaith said:
Good morning, Major, In Awe of Him and BibleLover;

Keeping in mind the Sign Gifts, Miracles, etc...came in all kinds and fulfilled their purpose prior to the end of the Apostolic Age.

This does not mean the miracles we experience today as believers are excluded. My surviving two near death asthma attacks as an infant and at 4 years old were considered miracles from God as well as my parent's prayers.

In 1997 I interviewed as a volunteer at the Billy Graham Crusade. At the end of the revival people would come down in droves to the front of the stage. While sitting with my group, I was assigned to go to an individual or couple and speak with them, then ask if I can do a prayer of acceptance with them. After the revival I would follow up and call the new Believers, some came from out of state, Southern and Northern California.

It was a revival that blessed my wife and me.

As far as that Toronto Blessing we have something similar called the Witches Confluence or Reclaiming Collective in our San Francisco Bay Area. We have Believers who are led to attend these revivals and share the Gospel. What the outcome was or is, I don't know.

God bless you all.

Bob
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What is very interesting is that real revivals always have top priority the word of God preached and taught, but those counterfeit ones have emotionalism. shouting, laughter, barking, and self proclaimed prophets and apostles 'speaking forth for the Lord"
 
YeshuaFan said:
What is important for anything like this is for local churches to be involved, as they must follow up to get any saved members now "churched and discipled"
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Grahams method did just that. We were told to explain to every person that walked the isle to then GO TO a local baptist church for baptism and uniting with that local church.
 
Major said:
Unfortunately, the emphasis on tongues as the only evidence of filling by the Holy Spirit is unbiblical and leads to error and excess as we now see in the Prosperity Gospel.

You see, when the door to error and heresy is cracked, the flood of false teachings always follow because men always.........
"Follow the money"!
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Coms back to coming to God for the reason of serving and pleasing Him, or else coming to him so that he can please and serve us
 
Major said:
The word "Miracle" over the years has become a name used to describe things we can not understand. IMHO, your recoveries were due to God answering the prayers of your parents. At 3 years old, I opened the car door and fell out. The Dr. told my parents that he did not know how many stitches he used to sew up my head but for a few days, they did not know if I would live. I did though because of the prayers of my Godly parents and because God placed the right doctor and nurse in the right place. A Miracle or God working as He always does in the lives of believers.
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I have to agree that the word Miracle is used loosely (not intentionally but for good) amongst Christians. There is a distinguishment between things we cannot understand and answered prayers.

Only because I hear this all the time in daily conversations with other believers, even myself.

Bob
 
bobinfaith said:
I have to agree that the word Miracle is used loosely (not intentionally but for good) amongst Christians. There is a distinguishment between things we cannot understand and answered prayers.

Only because I hear this all the time in daily conversations with other believers, even myself.

Bob
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Yes sir. I am just as guilty as the next person.

Allow me to give you an example. Just the other day I was recently driving through downtown Orlando, and of course its streets were choked with cars at rush hour, as I inched toward a skyscraper where I was due for a meeting. I looked and looked for a place to park so I would not have to walk too far and Suddenly, against all odds, I spotted a vacant parking space adjacent to the door.
Or maybe it wasn’t.

What was the 1st words I said...........“A miracle,” ! Was it????

Not really. Of course some will disagree as they allways do, BUT TO ME a miracle an event brought about by the power of God that is
a temporary exception to the ordinary course of nature for the purpose of showing that God has acted in history.

My 1st thought is the parting of the Red Sea. There is NO way to explain it!
 
Major said:
It is however exactly what demonic spirits would encourage.

May I add something here about a Billy Graham crusade event that most people do not realize. He did not just show up one day and give a series of sermons and people heard them and walked the isle and got saved. That is not how it worked.

Dr. Grahams operation was a well tuned, organized machine. When they identified a location to go to, they started a year in advance. Did you hear what I said......A year in advance.

Instead of buying jet airplanes, and house, and land along with Mercadez Benz cars, they invested in PEOPLE behind the scenes.

They would then pay those people and send those people into the location that was chosen and those people would spend about 6 months working with all of the local Baptist churches in meetings, seminars and coordinating visitation plans to all of the surrounding homes in that area. How do I know that?

In 1983, Dr. Graham held a crusade in Orlando Fl. in the Tangerine Bowl which is now the Citrus Bowl. We, Southern Baptist Churches in the area were contacted and asked to participate in these training seminars and visitations. My church enthusiastically accepted that invitation as did all the others. We spent months in visiting and soul winning. The results seen when you watch hundreds walk down the isle was because those local Baptist churches had ALREADY led those individuals to Christ. The Dr. Graham association told us to ask those who we led to Christ to make it known publicly during Dr. Grahams visit and those individuals were encouraged to go to the local Baptist church to be baptized and unite with them.

Now, the facts are that as a church, we did not do anything out of the ordinary. We always had a weekly visitation program where 10 to 12 men went out to speak to contacts and those who visited the church. We encouraged those who accepted Christ to go to that meeting in Orlando instead of to our church on Sunday on the time specified for them to attend.

I am not saying this to downplay the effectivness of Dr. Graham preaching, but instead to show how a man used the money given to his ministry to actually save souls instead of buying plans, and homes and cars.

As Paul Harvy said......"Now the rest of the Story"
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Can we just stick to the topic of 'revivals' without going into the details of personalities?
 
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Paul was the last real Apostle that was commissioned by the risen Christ
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I only brought up Paul because Major had said...

The ELEVEN are those disciples who were standing in front of Jesus and it was only those ELEVEN who were personally commissioned by the Lord Jesus to have special powers and abilities. NO ONE else qualifies for those abilities.
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Paul would have made TWELVE.
 
Major said:
The word "Miracle" over the years has become a name used to describe things we can not understand. IMHO, your recoveries were due to God answering the prayers of your parents.

At 3 years old, I opened the car door and fell out. The Dr. told my parents that he did not know how many stitches he used to sew up my head but for a few days, they did not know if I would live. I did though because of the prayers of my Godly parents and because God placed the right doctor and nurse in the right place.

A Miracle or God working as He always does in the lives of believers.
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I got some people mad at me once when they asked me what would I do if cut my hand, would I pray for instant healing, and told them would ask for a band aid
 
Major said:
The word "Miracle" over the years has become a name used to describe things we can not understand. IMHO, your recoveries were due to God answering the prayers of your parents.

At 3 years old, I opened the car door and fell out. The Dr. told my parents that he did not know how many stitches he used to sew up my head but for a few days, they did not know if I would live. I did though because of the prayers of my Godly parents and because God placed the right doctor and nurse in the right place.

A Miracle or God working as He always does in the lives of believers.
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I notice that in the examples given....The miracles that occurred had praying parents.... and I will add.... a MERCIFUL GOD.

A MERCIFUL GOD is at the heart of every miracle.... and yes they occur today.... but NOT by NAMING and CLAIMING them... NOT by sewing your money seed..... NOT by any other ABUSE of our CHRISTIAN position... but rather..... by the MERCY... and LOVING KINDNESS of ALMIGHTY GOD.

REVIVAL does not only happen in crowds... it happens to individual hearts in the quiet of their lives. A spark is lit... an epiphany is had from the WORD.
a Revelation of LOVE is accepted by a broken human being.

Miracles happen ALL the time... because.... GOD cares for and attends to HIS CHILDREN.
 
YeshuaFan said:
I got some people mad at me once when they asked me what would I do if cut my hand, would I pray for instant healing, and told them would ask for a band aid
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Band aids don’t always help…

Mark 5:25-26 LSB
And a woman—who had a hemorrhage for twelve years [26] and had endured much at the hands of many physicians, and had spent all that she had and was not helped at all, but rather had grown worse—
 
Major said:
No sir. Paul just like the ELEVEN had a personal commission from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 9:4-5
"And falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting."

Verse 15........
"But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel. "
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Just checking, because you said, "and only those eleven".(referring to the original twelve minus one).
 
crossnote said:
Band aids don’t always help…

Mark 5:25-26 LSB
And a woman—who had a hemorrhage for twelve years [26] and had endured much at the hands of many physicians, and had spent all that she had and was not helped at all, but rather had grown worse—
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true, but please note that was being done for her by God incarnated Himself
 
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