Free Masonry and Christianity Can Not Co-Exist
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As I'm reading these posts... my brain is thinking..... YOU are either FOR CHRIST or AGAINST Him.
I don't see how a Christian can excuse or reconcile the Masons as a harmless "men's club". I have heard people state this in the past. Anything done in the dark behind closed doors is NOT of CHRIST or FOR HIM. I don't think you can be a MASON and a CHRISTIAN at the same time.
There is an EVIL force behind the MASONS which is hidden to the general public. I guess I should premise my words with It's MY OPINION. HA
I don't see how a Christian can excuse or reconcile the Masons as a harmless "men's club". I have heard people state this in the past. Anything done in the dark behind closed doors is NOT of CHRIST or FOR HIM. I don't think you can be a MASON and a CHRISTIAN at the same time.
There is an EVIL force behind the MASONS which is hidden to the general public. I guess I should premise my words with It's MY OPINION. HA
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Exactly the point!
As you can see, when anyone wants to do something that God says not to do, or excuse what has already been done, all kinds of excuses will come out of the wood work so as to try and reconcile what we do with what God condemns.
THAT right there IMHO the very reason why the Church of the living God has diminished over the years and actually has NO power at all in our society.
God says....."Do not swear any oaths"!
God says......"But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways."
But WE say...........
My father was a Mason and he was a good man.
Lots of good men are Masons.
It is just a club.
They believe in God.
None of those or anything else we can think up apply. Many of us have fathers that were in the Masonic lodge but that does not make it accepable. YES....Lots of good men who are ignorant are Masons. YES it is a club. YES they believe in God but so does Satan.
my father was a good man and a saved christian man -- who was a mason i also know of others same way..in fact i was told by older mason it will Not make you a chrstian ,,but it can help being a better man.. many years ago the masons was respected
I respect what your father was and I am sure he was a Christian. That is not is question!!!!
The facts however are What our relatives may or may not have done or been does not does not make it right brother.
The point of the thread was.....Can Christianity and Freemasonry co-exist?
In light of the Scriptures, IMHO they can not.
Put aside what our fathers were, Put aside what some has told you. IT does not matter what Masons were. Allow me to ask YOU to respond to these questions.
1. God said in Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.”
If any club or organization has a position that it supports generic deity, or seems to divert or dilute believers’ focus from the God revealed in Scripture......should it be rejected by the Christian.
2. God said in Acts 4:12, “Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
If any club or organization supports any monotheistic faith as long as they profess belief in a Supreme Being as the Artichect of the Universe....should it be rejected?
3. God said in 2 Timothy 3:16 “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness.”
If any club or organization holds various local sacred texts as equal to the Bible during its rituals, placing them on the altar as representations of divine revelation for members of different religions....should it be rejected?
Probably for the same reasons, many 'Christians' see the Christian faith as merely a religion of formalities until they are born again.
i am more than well aware of the masons and the fact christians needs to avoid it .. with 2 ministers in the family my brother who has been preaching a good 40 years and me going on 26 years... neither of us has anything to do with the masons... i will compare this to those who hold the eternal security which live how they want.. the adultery's the alcohol the just another type living.. then saying there ok.. when scripture plainly tells us different .. i seriously doubt they was saved... i have tried to do my post in a Bibibcal manner... you dont know my dad or any of the other... facts are i know southern baptist in the masonic lodge and serve in the church...
i am bowing out of this as it crosses a line.. i need not go ( I respect what your father was and I am sure he was a Christian. That is not is question!!!!) but that is the question i leave it at that
for one around here a man word is worth its weight in gold,,, most what i know is what i learned ..if you want get deep go into the scottish right
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My dear Brother, I can not understand what you said and I have NO earthly idea why you make things personal.
NO one said anything about family members or anyone else. The point of the thread was.....Can Christianity and Freemasonry co-exist...
not whose father or brother or anyone else was involved.
I hope you have a great day tomarrow and it is always a blessing to talk with you!
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You have shown nothing but great respect.... Just saying.
The above are the opening remarks to the thread... and the title of the thread states that Free-Masonry and Christianity cannot co-exist.
The author of this thread did not once refer to the need for "outing" or "shaming" anyone's family members who may happen to belong to this group. Sadly this thread was made personal and offence was taken.
I do not feel this is fair... and so... I will add that I am in agreement with the comments made in the ORIGINAL post.
There is a longer list of these secret societies which would fall into the very same category as the Masons... and none of that is PERSONAL.
I totally agree that NO ONE wants to talk about this and I am certain that churches most probably do NOT want to address this issue within their own congregations so as NOT to offend... but that does not change the truth that these societies and CHRISTIANITY cannot co-exist.