Future Facts (israel, The Bride, Millennium Kingdom)

The termini of the present dispensation are the premillennial coming of Christ—the Rapture, the premillennial resurrection of martyred saints and of OT saints, the premillennial judgment of Israel, and the premillennial binding of Satan.​
There are also the postmillennial resurrection of the wicked, the postmillennial loosing of Satan and his final doom, and the postmillennial judgment of all the wicked dead.​
Between these termini, well-defined and clear, is the thousand-year reign of the King with His Bride and His subjects.​

Satan, the great deceiver and adversary, will be cast into the bottomless pit for the entire period of the kingdom. In that dispensation God will be testing man to show that, even with Satan out of the way to tempt and harass him no longer, he will still not be acceptable before Him. The uprising at the end of the age will reveal the failure of man once again.

With Satan consigned to the pit, the nations everywhere will be out his power. There will be no more rival kingdoms. The stone that becomes the mountain will break all others to pieces (Dan 2:44, 45). Christ’s reign will be undisputed and unhindered from opposition from any other government or reign on earth. There will be no cause for a divided allegiance to God’s King, the Man of His choice.

The false religious cults and systems that are springing up now everywhere on such a colossal scale will be done away with, and the knowledge of God will cover the earth as the waters cover the seas (Isa 11:9). No man will need to instruct his fellow man in the things of God, for they will all know Him from the least to the greatest (Jer 31-34). Israel will be restored to Jehovah, purged from her sin (Eze 36:24-27). The days of her wondering will have come to a close.

The prophecy of Daniel 9 will be operative in the life history of Israel: transgression finished, sins ended, iniquity atoned for, and everlasting righteousness and holiness effected. War will exist not more; all nations will be at peace under the rule and righteous reign of the Prince of Peace (Isa 2:2-4; Zech 9:9, 10). There cannot and will not be peace until He comes to govern in peace. Vain are the peace plans of men without the presence of the King to rule in peace.

Nature will be rejuvenated, and harmony will once more reign (Isa 35:1; Rom 8:19-22). The curse will be removed from the ground, and the desert and wilderness will be abundantly fruitful and productive (Zech 14:11). Animal creation also will experience a change in which animals of rapacious nature and appetites will become meek and tame. The age of man will be lengthened, for a man of one hundred years will be esteemed but a child (Isa 65:20). No longer will there be a division in the midst of Israel, but Israel and Judah will be united and will dwell together in their own land of blessing (Eze 37:15-22).

The coming of the King to the Mount of Olives will bring about physical changes in the land that will alter its contour (Zech 14:9, 10). The city of Jerusalem will be built again, adorned, and be fruitful as never before (Zech 1:16, 17; 2:4, 5). The nations in the kingdom will recognize the favored condition of Israel when God wipes away forever their reproach and uses them in the conversion of the Gentiles (Zech 8:20-23). The land will be redistributed among the twelve tribes, and the Temple will be rebuilt with the sacrifices, as memorials, reinstituted (Eze 40-48).

Yearly the nations will go up to Jerusalem to worship the Lord in the Feast of Tabernacles (Zec 14:16, 19). The Bride of Christ will reign with Him, and Israel will also rule over the nations under the direct command of the King. All nations will dwell in obedience and submission to the righteous King. Surely that partial picture—for it is only that—of the millennial age and its characteristic features should suffice to show that not only is that age not in progress now on the earth, but it never has been. It is definitely and conclusively a future dispensation.

The millennial dispensation will be God’s final test of man. He has been tested in innocency, under conscience, under human government, under promise, under law; he is being tested not under distinctive grace. Then he will be tested in an age of righteousness. The test will show whether man under the most favorable of circumstances—with Satan bound and rendered harmless, with a renovated earth, with a harmony present throughout nature, and with a righteous King ruling and governing in righteousness, judgment and justice—can be found to be well-pleasing in the sight of God. Man will fail, for he will still have the sin nature present with him.

Another purpose of the dispensation will be to fulfill God’s oath and promise to David. God declared time and time again that He would not lie to David. The millennial reign will prove that He did not lie to him. A third purpose, perhaps included in the one just mentioned, will be to fulfill all the numberless prophecies of the OT to Israel for her blessing.

If the kingdom age is never to be realized, as many claim, what do we make of the immutability of the counsels of His will? If the kingdom age is being realized now, as others insist, how is the Bible to be understood in any of its statements of fact? If God promises Israel a literal kingdom and then give the world a spiritualized kingdom in the present dispensation, what becomes of the promises of God?

We prefer to rest the case here with the concluding word that the Millennium is followed by the uprising of Satan and his hosts, the judgment of the wicked, and the new heaven and the new earth. The premillennial view of interpretation consistently adds link upon link to a long chain of evidence, reaching directly from Genesis to Revelation. It proves that the Word of God teaches a literal, actual, and world-wide Millennium, or kingdom age, under the personal reign of the King, the matchless and peerless Son of David. –CL Feinberg
 
So if I understand correctly: we are pre-millennium in the here and now?
Yes and the Millennium will be common knowledge after Satan is bound, because as of now he still traverses "to and fro in the earth"--unbound (Job 2:2, 7:4). This will precede the thousand-year rule of Christ and the saints.
 
I've struggled with different ideas over the last few years-as I am sure you are aware of all the 'winds of doctrine' there are out there. This seems to be the most Biblically accurate path to me. That's why when people start talking about 'Satan' popping up and ruling the Earth-I tend to be very cautious and not say anything. Thanks NC...
 
I've struggled with different ideas over the last few years-as I am sure you are aware of all the 'winds of doctrine' there are out there. This seems to be the most Biblically accurate path to me. That's why when people start talking about 'Satan' popping up and ruling the Earth-I tend to be very cautious and not say anything. Thanks NC...

It's wise to be cautious (myself included) concerning all that involves eschatology, as Scripture is usually not directly clear with its chronology of events.
 
The termini of the present dispensation are the premillennial coming of Christ—the Rapture, the premillennial resurrection of martyred saints and of OT saints, the premillennial judgment of Israel, and the premillennial binding of Satan.​
There are also the postmillennial resurrection of the wicked, the postmillennial loosing of Satan and his final doom, and the postmillennial judgment of all the wicked dead.​
Between these termini, well-defined and clear, is the thousand-year reign of the King with His Bride and His subjects.​


Satan, the great deceiver and adversary, will be cast into the bottomless pit for the entire period of the kingdom. In that dispensation God will be testing man to show that, even with Satan out of the way to tempt and harass him no longer, he will still not be acceptable before Him. The uprising at the end of the age will reveal the failure of man once again.

With Satan consigned to the pit, the nations everywhere will be out his power. There will be no more rival kingdoms. The stone that becomes the mountain will break all others to pieces (Dan 2:44, 45). Christ’s reign will be undisputed and unhindered from opposition from any other government or reign on earth. There will be no cause for a divided allegiance to God’s King, the Man of His choice.

The false religious cults and systems that are springing up now everywhere on such a colossal scale will be done away with, and the knowledge of God will cover the earth as the waters cover the seas (Isa 11:9). No man will need to instruct his fellow man in the things of God, for they will all know Him from the least to the greatest (Jer 31-34). Israel will be restored to Jehovah, purged from her sin (Eze 36:24-27). The days of her wondering will have come to a close.

The prophecy of Daniel 9 will be operative in the life history of Israel: transgression finished, sins ended, iniquity atoned for, and everlasting righteousness and holiness effected. War will exist not more; all nations will be at peace under the rule and righteous reign of the Prince of Peace (Isa 2:2-4; Zech 9:9, 10). There cannot and will not be peace until He comes to govern in peace. Vain are the peace plans of men without the presence of the King to rule in peace.

Nature will be rejuvenated, and harmony will once more reign (Isa 35:1; Rom 8:19-22). The curse will be removed from the ground, and the desert and wilderness will be abundantly fruitful and productive (Zech 14:11). Animal creation also will experience a change in which animals of rapacious nature and appetites will become meek and tame. The age of man will be lengthened, for a man of one hundred years will be esteemed but a child (Isa 65:20). No longer will there be a division in the midst of Israel, but Israel and Judah will be united and will dwell together in their own land of blessing (Eze 37:15-22).

The coming of the King to the Mount of Olives will bring about physical changes in the land that will alter its contour (Zech 14:9, 10). The city of Jerusalem will be built again, adorned, and be fruitful as never before (Zech 1:16, 17; 2:4, 5). The nations in the kingdom will recognize the favored condition of Israel when God wipes away forever their reproach and uses them in the conversion of the Gentiles (Zech 8:20-23). The land will be redistributed among the twelve tribes, and the Temple will be rebuilt with the sacrifices, as memorials, reinstituted (Eze 40-48).

Yearly the nations will go up to Jerusalem to worship the Lord in the Feast of Tabernacles (Zec 14:16, 19). The Bride of Christ will reign with Him, and Israel will also rule over the nations under the direct command of the King. All nations will dwell in obedience and submission to the righteous King. Surely that partial picture—for it is only that—of the millennial age and its characteristic features should suffice to show that not only is that age not in progress now on the earth, but it never has been. It is definitely and conclusively a future dispensation.

The millennial dispensation will be God’s final test of man. He has been tested in innocency, under conscience, under human government, under promise, under law; he is being tested not under distinctive grace. Then he will be tested in an age of righteousness. The test will show whether man under the most favorable of circumstances—with Satan bound and rendered harmless, with a renovated earth, with a harmony present throughout nature, and with a righteous King ruling and governing in righteousness, judgment and justice—can be found to be well-pleasing in the sight of God. Man will fail, for he will still have the sin nature present with him.

Another purpose of the dispensation will be to fulfill God’s oath and promise to David. God declared time and time again that He would not lie to David. The millennial reign will prove that He did not lie to him. A third purpose, perhaps included in the one just mentioned, will be to fulfill all the numberless prophecies of the OT to Israel for her blessing.

If the kingdom age is never to be realized, as many claim, what do we make of the immutability of the counsels of His will? If the kingdom age is being realized now, as others insist, how is the Bible to be understood in any of its statements of fact? If God promises Israel a literal kingdom and then give the world a spiritualized kingdom in the present dispensation, what becomes of the promises of God?

We prefer to rest the case here with the concluding word that the Millennium is followed by the uprising of Satan and his hosts, the judgment of the wicked, and the new heaven and the new earth. The premillennial view of interpretation consistently adds link upon link to a long chain of evidence, reaching directly from Genesis to Revelation. It proves that the Word of God teaches a literal, actual, and world-wide Millennium, or kingdom age, under the personal reign of the King, the matchless and peerless Son of David. –CL Feinberg

Now that is a great piece of Biblical exergesis NC! I concure completly and have said the very same thing for a long time.
It is what the Scriptures teach.
 
If this thread devolves into another argument over whose view of eschatology is the correct one (which assumes that every one else's is therefore necessarily the wrong one), it will be closed. We already have enough of those at the moment. The subject of the end times have been discussed and disagreed upon by learned men for centuries, it is rather arrogant to think that any one of us has now arrived at the undisputed script. As the events unfold, it may well be as difficult for us to recognize them for what they are as it was for the Pharisees to recognize Jesus as the promised Messiah, and our own prejudices may well prevent us from accepting what we should be seeing clearly. In that day, if there are two brethren arguing on a forum, will one be taken and the other left? If so, it won't be because one's view of eschatology was different from the other's.

Let's keep in mind that among the deeds of the flesh are listed enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, and factions. All of these have been in evidence in the end times threads and precious little of the fruit of the Spirit and so, to reference a different portion of Scripture, we become clanging cymbals and noisy gongs. And, to reference yet another Scripture, when you try to remove the speck in your brother's eye, you give him a concussion because the beam in your own eye keeps banging him on the head. If you think I'm talking to someone other than you, you're probably wrong.

I do not want to derail the thread, so please continue the discussion on the subject of the OP exhibiting the characteristics of mature, Spirit indwelt Christians.
 
My apologies if anyone took anything for or against one way or another. I am just trying to learn here on this subject. I am not solidified on any one idea. That's why I had asked for opinions on each view.
 
If this thread devolves into another argument over whose view of eschatology is the correct one (which assumes that every one else's is therefore necessarily the wrong one), it will be closed. We already have enough of those at the moment. The subject of the end times have been discussed and disagreed upon by learned men for centuries, it is rather arrogant to think that any one of us has now arrived at the undisputed script. As the events unfold, it may well be as difficult for us to recognize them for what they are as it was for the Pharisees to recognize Jesus as the promised Messiah, and our own prejudices may well prevent us from accepting what we should be seeing clearly. In that day, if there are two brethren arguing on a forum, will one be taken and the other left? If so, it won't be because one's view of eschatology was different from the other's.

Let's keep in mind that among the deeds of the flesh are listed enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, and factions. All of these have been in evidence in the end times threads and precious little of the fruit of the Spirit and so, to reference a different portion of Scripture, we become clanging cymbals and noisy gongs. And, to reference yet another Scripture, when you try to remove the speck in your brother's eye, you give him a concussion because the beam in your own eye keeps banging him on the head. If you think I'm talking to someone other than you, you're probably wrong.

I do not want to derail the thread, so please continue the discussion on the subject of the OP exhibiting the characteristics of mature, Spirit indwelt Christians.

Yes sir......I agree totally!
 
Thanks Major for the compliment!

And you are welcome my brother!

Please keep up the good work! The world that lives on the internet needs to hear the true Word of God.

God has given us a wonderful gift with this computer stuff and I am so pleased to see people such as your self taking advantage of it by getting out the Word of God.
 
I just like sharing spiritual growth teachings from writers a few centuries ago and there's a life-time of it.

Concerning eschatology, I believe its blessings (Rev 22:7) represents God's omniscience and omnipotence, but other than this it is not directly used as much for spiritual growth in Christ's image. Myself, I'm always ready to improvise my concepts concerning the end-times doctrines because Scripture is not as clear revealing its material, esp. when it comes to the chronology of the events. And as Rumely indicated, it's not salvation essential, other than for exhortation, in my opinion.
 
Well...if you actually go back beyond about the 1860's, you may be surprised that dispensationalism along the Darby/Scofield lines did not exist for close to 1900 years....Futurism is a new and viral concept, untaught by the giants of Protestantism of the past.

I await your evidence.

I'm uncertain as to what you are trying to relate. My Biblical studies for the last forty years lead me to the teachings of the era I've indicated and have found them to be the clearest and most encouraging, esp. within the last twelve years.
 
The Reformers and those among them around the 15 and 1600s were used to bring about a separation from Roman Catholicism and advocate individuality in the Father through Christ. Many since these teachers have been used to further the spiritual growth they have made possible.
 
Well...if you actually go back beyond about the 1860's, you may be surprised that dispensationalism along the Darby/Scofield lines did not exist for close to 1900 years....Futurism is a new and viral concept, untaught by the giants of Protestantism of the past.

I await your evidence.

Anyone can read such Church Fathers as Irenaeus and Justin, and you will find that a futuristic approach to prophecy (and by extension Premillennialism) stretches back to the earliest post apostolic writers. Many of these Fathers really did not seem to be too concerned with Israel's future, but the fact that the Jews helped to bring persecution on the early church likely contributed to that fact. They did believe in a future Tribulation, and AntiChrist, and a literal Millennium on Earth. There is also evidence that some of them, at least, apparently did believe in a Pre-Trib Rapture. I am currently working on condensing some messages I preached on this into some articles, and hopefully will be able to post them on the forum here when I am finished writing them.

I mention this for the benefit of those who would like to check it out for themselves. Rusty's mind will not be changed, and I would encourage other Premillennialists here to refrain from endless arguments with Him.
 
I'm going to continue to hope for increased concern for our love to one another and in this way we will learn the quickest what we should know. After all, we cannot use what we learn if it's not used in neighborly-love. I know this is easy to say and is always obviously true but since it is the most important, that makes it the most difficult. It's all about unconditional love because this is what Christ meant by loving as He loved, which means no longer as we love ourselves, which is conditional .
 
I just like sharing spiritual growth teachings from writers a few centuries ago and there's a life-time of it.

Concerning eschatology, I believe its blessings (Rev 22:7) represents God's omniscience and omnipotence, but other than this it is not directly used as much for spiritual growth in Christ's image. Myself, I'm always ready to improvise my concepts concerning the end-times doctrines because Scripture is not as clear revealing its material, esp. when it comes to the chronology of the events. And as Rumely indicated, it's not salvation essential, other than for exhortation, in my opinion.

I also agree with that.
 
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