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Right, Forouk...JLB did not (IMO) respond to this:
So you are advocating that both the wicked and the righteous are resurrected at the same time?
The Resurrection and taking away of the saints from the entire earth seems clearly a different event from the Judgment of the wicked.
 
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Right, Forouk...JLB did not (IMO) respond to this:


The Resurrection and taking away of the saints from the entire earth seems clearly a different event from the Judgment of the wicked.
I agree; if you and I are fellow-dispensationalists, this would seem obvious, yes.

Blessings.
 
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Nope....in no way a Dispy...The difference I see between the resurrections is biblical, not hinged on Darby, Scofield or their agendas.
Well, I'm sure you have your ideas about this, but in very general terms at least this is where I would be coming from.

Blessings.
 
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Well, I'm sure you have your ideas about this, but in very general terms at least this is where I would be coming from.

Blessings.
OK...Yes...most Protestants adhere to some parts of Dispensationalism (it's very much in vogue the past 100 years)...but I think, since this idea of 2 resurrections of the dead has been known for thousands of years before Darby or his side-kick were born, it's not correct to credit the concept to them.
 
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OK...Yes...most Protestants adhere to some parts of Dispensationalism (it's very much in vogue the past 100 years)...but I think, since this idea of 2 resurrections of the dead has been known for thousands of years before Darby or his side-kick were born, it's not correct to credit the concept to them.
I would generally agree in historical terms, I guess. For myself I don't have a problem in quoting folk who have stated certain things in a certain way, which in this area happen to be Darby, Scofield and others. I do agree with your general point. Blessings.
 
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I don't either....However: I prefer to give credit where it is due....I wouldn't quote Branson, owner of Virgin Airlines, if he claims to have invented the airplane. He just rebranded an airline style....big diff.

But back to the point. It seems our friend here is suggesting a general resurrection, the lost among the redeemed...I wonder if he is, or is writing to sketchily or what?
 
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I don't either....However: I prefer to give credit where it is due....I wouldn't quote Branson, owner of Virgin Airlines, if he claims to have invented the airplane. He just rebranded an airline style....big diff.

But back to the point. It seems our friend here is suggesting a general resurrection, the lost among the redeemed...I wonder if he is, or is writing to sketchily or what?
I guess I can't speak for him. :) Blessings.
 
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Right, Forouk...JLB did not (IMO) respond to this:


The Resurrection and taking away of the saints from the entire earth seems clearly a different event from the Judgment of the wicked.
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Hebrews 9:28

Jesus Christ will return Once!

There are not many Comings, Appearing's or Returns as others have tried to say.

He will return only once, and stay here to rule and reign from Jerusalem.


JLB



 
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JLB...and what it means for the believer and what it means for the unbeliever are two different aspects.

Assessing believers' service and executing judgment on earth are also distinct.

Blessings.
 

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JLB...and what it means for the believer and what it means for the unbeliever are two different aspects.

Assessing believers' service and executing judgment on earth are also distinct.

Blessings.

What happens when He gets here can be found in Matthew 25, however he will appear a second time and stay.


JLB
 

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25 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.
6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming;[a] go out to meet him!’ 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’
13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour[b] in which the Son of Man is coming.

All ten of the virgins were believers. The five wise virgins were "prepared" for the coming of the groom (that being Christ). Many would argue what the "being prepared" means exactly, I would assume that it means something along the lines of "the wise virgins not only believed but lived their faith", so they had faith and works to show. The foolish virgins believed and were also waiting but had not provided the necessary works to compliment their faith, in other words they had an empty faith. When they knew the groom had arrived they hurridly attempted to make up for their lack of preparedness but it was too late.
Note that this phrase ( ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’) is used in other parables in like circumstances.
 
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Galatians 3:10-14

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
Law and Promise

10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, because it is written: Everyone who does not continue doing everything written in the book of the law is cursed.[a] 11 Now it is clear that no one is justified before God by the law, because the righteous will live by faith.[b] 12 But the law is not based on faith; instead, the one who does these things will live by them.[c] 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, because it is written: Everyone who is hung on a tree is cursed.[d] 14 The purpose was that the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles by Christ Jesus, so that we could receive the promised Spirit through faith.
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These are my thoughts please share yours.

10 To live by the law is imposible, that is why Christ came. If we are able to keep of the law we will fail in other parts of it because we are sinners.

11 We are not justified thru our own efforts but by our belief of God doing what He said and God having done what He said. Faith putting our trust in God. We can only have a right standing withGod by faith thru Christ and this justifies us.

12 The law is work based and is not about what God did for us but what we can do for God. We really can never do anything for God. The law became something the Pharissees used to brag about themselves. We do not do this by faaith because our faith is not from our own efforts but from God showing us mercy.

13 Christ became our curse and by doing this taking the curse that was also but on Adam, by Christ we take from the tree of life which, Adam had to leave and was unable to eat. Our relationship with God is restored thru Christ.

14 The Spirit comes not only to Jewish believers but to all believers in Christ. Abraham and the Jewish people were promised a land but all believers will go to a land that Jesus has prepared for us and that is heaven.
That land that you speak of is here. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the Earth. This Earth will be regenerated and made into the Kingdom of God. New Jerusalem is coming to Earth.
 
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No you missed understood Jewish nonbelievers are promised a land now but all believers both Jewish and Gentile are promised a kingdom Jesus will prepared for us. It by faith in Christ that we recieve these promises not by a blood line.
Jewish non-believers are promised absolutely nothing except judgment unless they accept Jesus the Son of God. This is what the New Covenant is all about. I am amazed that you don't even understand that only those who accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior will inherit the promises made to Abraham. Check out Galatians chapter 3:29 Paul is very clear on this...just believe scripture my friend.
 
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Galatians 3:10-14

14 The purpose was that the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles by Christ Jesus, so that we could receive the promised Spirit through faith.


These are my thoughts please share yours.

14 The Spirit comes not only to Jewish believers but to all believers in Christ. Abraham and the Jewish people were promised a land but all believers will go to a land that Jesus has prepared for us and that is heaven.

Jesus has prepared Eternal Life for us, NOT heaven. This verse is talking about receiving the Holy Spirit.