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Not end of "Tri Rubbish" as it was so elegantly put. Yes, He Had two feet when He came to earth as MAN,Yeshua. YHVH (God) is Spirit and the Holy Spirit speaks for itself. This makes three, ONE!
 
#12
Please someone quote some scripture that speaks of the trinity...

The babtism of Jesus is a good one.:).. All three were there individually...:eek::D:preach:


Some religions dispell the Trinity because it's associated with the Catholic church... thats 1 reason I know of... Others because the WORD ((( Trinity ))) as far as I know is not in scripture...:read-bible:

So be patient with those who throw out the baby with the bath water... I don't have time to research now... someone else please:D ABBA BLESS
 
#14
From http://www.afcministry.com/Trinity_Doctrine.htm
Looking for information on the doctrine of the Trinity? We have Biblical evidence for the Trinity doctrine being true and answers for those who say the Trinity is false. The Trinity Doctrine is the One God revealed through three distinct Persons as the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. Below will be some Biblical information on explaining the Trinity in simple terms and following that will be various articles dealing with the doctrine of the Trinity.
Explaining the Trinity
  1. The Bible teaches that there is only one God. (Isaiah 43:10, Isaiah 44:6-8, Isaiah 45:22)
  2. The Bibles teaches that there is one who is called the Father and is identified as being God. (1 Peter 1:2)
  3. The Bible teaches that there is one who is called Jesus and is identified as being God. (John 1:1-3&14-18, John 20:28-29, 1 John 1:1-4&5:20, Philippians 2:5-8, Revelation 1:17-18, Revelation 22:12-20)
  4. The Bible teaches that there is one who is called the Holy Spirit and is identified as being God. (John 14:16-17, John 15:26, John 16:7-15, Acts 5:3-4, Acts 13:2, 1 Corinthians 12:4-18, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 10:15-18)
There are things in life that are triune in nature but one. For example: An egg is one but with three distinctions. You have the yoke, the white, and the shell, but all three composite the one egg. Another example: A piece of fruit such as the peach has three components. A peach has the outer layer (the skin), the inner layer (the juicy stuff known as the meat), and the core. All three components composite the one peach.
Other things that we have in our everyday lives that are triune is water. Water is one substance that can be liquid, gas, and solid distinctly or all at the same. The following quote is from the late Dr. Walter Martin: "It is a well-known fact of chemistry that plain water, when placed in a vacuum under 230 millimeters of gas pressure and at a temperature of 0 degrees Centigrade, solidifies into ice at the bottom of the container, remains liquid in the center and vaporizes at the top! At a given instant the same water is both solid, liquid and gas, yet all three are manifestations of the same basic substance or nature: H2O - hydrogen: two parts; oxygen: one. If one of the simplest of all created substances can be three in manifested form and yet remain one in nature, then the Creator of that substance can surely be Father, Son and Holy Spirit - three Persons and one Nature - without any violation of logic or reason whatever if He so wills."
If an egg, a peach, and water can have three distinct things and all be one at the same time, than the Almighty should have no problem. The word Trinity is way of explaining the belief in one God revealed through three distinct persons. Some people get all hung up on the issue of the Bible teaching there is only one God. No where does the Bible state God is only one person, but it does say God is one in Deuteronomy 6:4. The word for one there is the Hebrew word Echad, which means a composite unity. For examples of this consider Genesis 1:5, Genesis 2:24, Ezra 2:64, Ezekiel 37:17 where the same Hebrew word Echad is used and means one in unity, not in number! The Bible teaches there is one Church but many members and there is no problems with understanding this, yet when it comes to God some seem to have problems.
 
#15
the soldiers were picked by the way they drank,2 hands cupped to lift the water.all i am saying is that to believe in the 3 doesn,t mean a trinity.jesus had to leave to send the holy ghost,why?if like you say they are 3 seperate?:confused:
 
#18
the soldiers were picked by the way they drank,2 hands cupped to lift the water.all i am saying is that to believe in the 3 doesn,t mean a trinity.jesus had to leave to send the holy ghost,why?if like you say they are 3 seperate?:confused:
Luke 4:1
"And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness"
John 7:39
"(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)"
Matthew 3:11
"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"

Why say that Jesus was filled with the Holy Ghost, in the instance of Luke 4:1 , if they were not seperate? Why would He baptise with the Holy Ghost, if they were not seperate, and why would He seal His believers with the Holy Ghost, if they were not seperate entities? If they were the same entity, why would Jesus have said the Holy Ghost, and not "My Spirit", or "My Self"?
I would like to see some scripture that says He HAD to leave to send the Holy Ghost. From my understanding,the Holy Ghost is our companion, sent by Christ in His absence to abide in us until Christ returns. The idea that the Holy Ghost ad jesus are one raises a question for me, that do not have answers found in Scripture. If he is not seperate from the Holy Ghost, how can Jesus return, if He is abiding in His Church? Wouldn't He have to leave us AGAIN, in order to return? There is no mention of a third departure, only a second comming.