Is Belief in God logical?

I sometimes wonder if the natural man grasps things eternal. There's a concept in mathematics called 'approaching infinity' which, I believe is a misnomer. Shortly after I became a Christian it dawned on me that there is no approaching eternity, because eternity exists infinitely beyond the finite. For example, think of the largest number possible...it's impossible, because no matter how large a number, you can always add 1. Therefore the finite cannot approach infinity.
My conclusion was that the finite (man) could never approach the infinite (God), rather the infinite God had to reach down to reach finite (man), which He did in the Person of Jesus Christ (the God/man). Does that make logical sense?
 
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crossnote said:
I sometimes wonder if the natural man grasps things eternal. There's a concept in mathematics called 'approaching infinity' which, I believe is a misnomer. Shortly after I became a Christian it dawned on me that there is no approaching eternity, because eternity exists infinitely beyond the finite. For example, think of the largest number possible...it's impossible, because no matter how large a number, you can always add 1. Therefore the finite cannot approach infinity.
My conclusion was that the finite (man) could never approach the infinite (God), rather the infinite God had to reach down to reach finite (man), which He did in the Person of Jesus Christ (the God/man). Does that make logical sense?
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Absolutely!!!

The God-Man, Jesus Christ became the bridge that allowed sinful man to approach a holy God!
 
crossnote said:
According to our finite minds, concepts of God seem illogical as 'eternal', 'infinite', 'trinity' etc. . You would have to go with a novel word, one like supra-logical, i.e. outside our bounds of finite logic.
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You know, one of the reasons why so many people refuse Christ is that we do in fact have finite minds and we cannot comprehend infinity.

The idea that we are forever is so staggering that we just reject it.
 
crossnote said:
I sometimes wonder if the natural man grasps things eternal. There's a concept in mathematics called 'approaching infinity' which, I believe is a misnomer. Shortly after I became a Christian it dawned on me that there is no approaching eternity, because eternity exists infinitely beyond the finite. For example, think of the largest number possible...it's impossible, because no matter how large a number, you can always add 1. Therefore the finite cannot approach infinity. My conclusion was that the finite (man) could never approach the infinite (God), rather the infinite God had to reach down to reach finite (man), which He did in the Person of Jesus Christ (the God/man). Does that make logical sense?
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Major said:
You know, one of the reasons why so many people refuse Christ is that we do in fact have finite minds and we cannot comprehend infinity. The idea that we are forever is so staggering that we just reject it.
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Good morning, crossnote and Major;

Both of you make good points of logical sense / faith in God.

crossnote wrote, "approaching infinity is a misnomer," rather, people of God will gradually grasp things eternal.

To paraphrase Major, he shares, "by Christ our faith was given by our infinite God who reaches down to finite man."

Christians who cannot accept God's "work in progress in us" will not gain knowledge / wisdom of infinity (I'm not talking master.) For them a relationship with Jesus is too hard. His disciples in John 6:60-66 walked away because they could not comprehend the Words of Eternal Life.

Bob
 
Janine06 said:
I think 'John 6:60-66 walked away because they could not comprehend the Words of Eternal Life' is exactly why I think many people are walking away from Christianity or religion. They've lost site of comprehension and wisdom of God.
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Well said, Janine. When we lose site we make our most extreme problems our god. The more we lose "site of comprehension and wisdom of God," the harder it becomes to turn back.

Happy 5th day since you joined! šŸ˜‡

God bless you, sister, your family, and thank you for sharing.

Bob
 
bobinfaith said:
When we lose site we make our most extreme problems our god.
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LearningToLetGo said:
Please explain your thought process here, Bob.
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Hello Jason;

Yes. Many times when we lose site of our faith in God and focus more on extreme relationship issues, health, finances, worry, fear can become our god more than our True God.

God bless you, brother.
 
bobinfaith said:
Hello Jason;

Yes. Many times when we lose site of our faith in God and focused more on extreme relationship issues, health, finances, worry, fear can become our god more than our True God.

God bless you, brother.
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Metaphorically, right?

This is another way of saying my will, not thy will -- the inversion of how we are meant to be.
 
LearningToLetGo said:
Metaphorically, right? This is another way of saying my will, not thy will -- the inversion of how we are meant to be.
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Metaphorically, yes, and no. I'm referring to literally, Jason. Unfortunately, for some of these Christian men and women, I meet many of them in Church worship and Christian circles. For example, during Christmas, a birthday celebration or a productive week at their work, their outward appearance is saying, "praise Jesus" but on the inside their faces are carrying the extreme problems they are currently facing.

Instead of letting go and letting God, they hang on their obsession of their problem and seek an instant solution.

When we apply the saying of "my will, not thy will," or "your will, not my will" is the continued work of a disciple that is struggling but remaining steadfast to God first, keeping everything else secondary.

When we follow this discipline He will always make a way for each of us.

Bob
 
bobinfaith said:
Metaphorically, yes, and no. I'm referring to literally, Jason.
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This is where you lose me. It's one thing to say in effect they worship the things of the world. However, that's a far cry from literally worshiping the things of the world.

bobinfaith said:
Instead of letting go and letting God, they hang on their obsession of their problem and seek an instant solution.
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What you call "hang[ing] on to their obsession", I call "worship[ing] the things of the world."

They effectively place the object of their fear/desire in place of God but that's, at best, an unconscious action. We're not talking overt worship as in the golden calf of Moses' time. That is what I think of as intentional worship.
 
LearningToLetGo said:
This is where you lose me. It's one thing to say in effect they worship the things of the world. However, that's a far cry from literally worshiping the things of the world. What you call "hang[ing] on to their obsession", I call "worship[ing] the things of the world." They effectively place the object of their fear/desire in place of God but that's, at best, an unconscious action. We're not talking overt worship as in the golden calf of Moses' time. That is what I think of as intentional worship.
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Your post, "worshiping the things of the world and hanging on to their obsession" can say the same thing, both of these can easily expand into various meanings.

When we hang on to our obsession with our extreme problems, I'm speaking problems that can run through our minds over and over that at some point we take God out of the picture.

When we worship the things of the world can also run through our minds over and over that at some point we take God out of the picture.

Both end up with the same result of replacing God with another form of worship, obsession / god.

If you are losing me then my mistake, Jason.

No, we're not talking overt worship as the golden calf in Moses time.

Thank you, brother.

Bob
 
Major said:
I have been giving this some thought. It is really Two questions in one. #1 Is God Logical and #2, is the belief in God logical?
Well....that enough for me. All of this in depth thinking is giving me a headache.
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john14six said:
In my experience, counseling those who are struggling with doubts about their salvation, I have found many people confuse scriptures that relate to sanctification with justification. Another mistake I see is that people take a scripture out of context and apply it to themselves in a way it was not intended and then become fearful that the scripture is speaking to them.
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Yes, me too. I don't know what else I can share here but I have enjoyed the good posts and thank you all for learning more.

God bless everyone.
 
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