Uh, the word Trinity isn't explicitly mentioned in Scripture either. So whether I apply the word 'office' or 'position' (but a Heavenly one), or some other word that makes the distinction from a flesh order, I think my point will be understood. The rest is just semantics, because I well know that Lord Jesus is One Person in The Godhead of three Persons.
Jesus is God : Proof?
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How about:-
For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col_2:9 KJV
Yeah, of course I agree with that verse, but that's still not about my point for using the word 'office'.
Now I have thought about it some more I see what you mean and I agree with you. "Office-position-concern-work-duty-sphere of influence-responsibility??"
Yeah, but not in a sense that diminishes the divinity of Christ Jesus as God with us (Immanuel).
True, we need to lift Jesus higher, I was simply saying that I get your meaning.
Well, actually....Yahshua said, "Before Abraham WAS, I AM."
When it comes to the timeline of this creation, that's an impossibility. For Him to say "I AM" says that He is back then fore Abraham in that moment, in that moment, and beyond that moment. In other words, time is not at all a constraint to Him. He is there before Abraham, He there in that garden before the fall, and He is at the very end when He calls forth the destructive forces that will wipe out this universe before the creation of the new heavens and new earth.
Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
He IS, AND He WAS, AND is to COME. He is all those times at the same time...in this timeline within which we are currently trapped.
It is the fallenness of some that causes them to kick against that goad, doing harm only to their own toes....
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Do some people find it hard to grasp Jesus deity?
Are you answering people who are questioning whether Jesus is divine?
It was very obvious to many that he was, but I suppose just as many didn't believe, and even when they saw Jesus with their own eyes they might have thought he was just a man in the flesh who had a few special powers.
Are you answering people who are questioning whether Jesus is divine?
It was very obvious to many that he was, but I suppose just as many didn't believe, and even when they saw Jesus with their own eyes they might have thought he was just a man in the flesh who had a few special powers.
I dunno…
But to me He is God, since He is before all time.
Col 1:17 states Christ "is before all things, and in him allthings hold together.
If He is before all things then Its obvious He is even before time. time is the difference between cause and effect. He is before them both because when I see a cloud forming He is even before that lol and when I see the rain fall from said cloud He is even before that.
So to me He is 100percent God.
I wonder what He was doing before He was born in that stable…well,
Surely He’s Holding everything together, just like the scripture says!
