Lets Make Fun Of The Clown Thread

I guess I'll have to read that thread. I never clicked on it before because the title was using big words :S

I'll help you out (helps me out too):

Annihilationism is the belief that the final fate of those who are not saved is literal and final death and destruction. It runs counter to the mainstream traditional Christian understanding of hell as eternal suffering and separation from God.

In contrast to the more traditional view, which holds that the wicked will remain conscious in hell forever, annhilationism teaches that, whether or not God may use hell to exact some conscious punishment for sins, he will eventually destroy or annihilate the wicked completely, leaving only the righteous to live on in immortality. This is essentially a moot point for Universalists since in their view all will be saved and hell will one day be empty.

Each of the three views, Annihilationism, Eternal Torment and Universalism, has at least one major feature in common with the alternatives. Universalism and Eternal Torment both affirm that everyone will have immortality. Universalism and Annihilationism affirm that evil will one day no longer exist, and Annihilationism and Eternal Torment both affirm that some will be punished eternally, without remedy. For the annihilationist, however, eternal punishment is seen as "permanent elimination."
 
The gist of the article ended up having very little to do with Annihilationism. This stuff always expands into strange and random territory, which isn't really a problem IMO. I'm not familiar enough with Mitspa to comment on the decision, but I know that he was being pretty stubborn in that particular thread. However, while I can't discuss the specifics of any moderation, I can say that when we moderate, and a decision to ban is made, it's not made on a single instance of misbehavior. In fact, we often put off single instances and try to intervene and see if things get better or worse.
 
i haven't had a chance to read the Annihilationism thread all the way through yet. I've read the first 3 posts. A lot of isms in there. I think I'm going to have to have the dictionary open in a separate tab because I'm not that smart.
 
The gist of the article ended up having very little to do with Annihilationism. This stuff always expands into strange and random territory, which isn't really a problem IMO. I'm not familiar enough with Mitspa to comment on the decision, but I know that he was being pretty stubborn in that particular thread. However, while I can't discuss the specifics of any moderation, I can say that when we moderate, and a decision to ban is made, it's not made on a single instance of misbehavior. In fact, we often put off single instances and try to intervene and see if things get better or worse.


Are banns permanent?
 
i haven't had a chance to read the Annihilationism thread all the way through yet. I've read the first 3 posts. A lot of isms in there. I think I'm going to have to have the dictionary open in a separate tab because I'm not that smart.

I'd say that for the most part, while it's interesting, and a worthy discussion, it's also not really a very important subject to Christians. It gets a bit deep, and mildly confusing. I only really stepped into the topic at all because there are about a dozen pages with the same information repeated over and over and over again with no apparent end.
 
I'd say that for the most part, while it's interesting, and a worthy discussion, it's also not really a very important subject to Christians. It gets a bit deep, and mildly confusing. I only really stepped into the topic at all because there are about a dozen pages with the same information repeated over and over and over again with no apparent end.

Sometimes my posts will have multiple repeats. I think it has something to do with version 1.3.1. I usually just edit the repeated posts.
 
Are banns permanent?

Some are, some are not. I largely refrained from this one because I just don't know the situation well enough to comment. Right now, it appears to be a permanent ban, but I believe there is an option to appeal. Since it sounds like there was already a temporary ban placed a while back, I'm guessing whatever situation existed then hasn't been rectified.
 
Sometimes my posts will have multiple repeats. I think it has something to do with version 1.3.1. I usually just edit the repeated posts.

Trust me on this one, it wasn't like that. It was intentional. If you look at the last few posts, my intention in that thread was simply to ask him to stop posting there. The ban occurred while I was out, but I know that several instances in several threads were discussed.
 
Trust me on this one, it wasn't like that. It was intentional. If you look at the last few posts, my intention in that thread was simply to ask him to stop posting there. The ban occurred while I was out, but I know that several instances in several threads were discussed.
oooh okay I see what you're saying.

I think some of our brothers and sisters get really fired up during some of the debates on here. Which I think it's good to be passionate but we should also be passionate in a loving way.
 
oooh okay I see what you're saying.

I think some of our brothers and sisters get really fired up during some of the debates on here. Which I think it's good to be passionate but we should also be passionate in a loving way.

I've been doing this for a long time. I appreciate passion, but it's always a bit of a challenge around here. We can't enforce any particular doctrine, so when accusations of false doctrines start getting slung around, it's often hard to know how to respond without taking sides. We can take sides on certain doctrines which are clear, but there are always those that take issue with EVERY single possible belief and interpretation on every single issue that could ever show it's ugly little head. Sometimes it's worth the time, and other times, I just have to step away for a few days, weeks, months, etc... just to have the energy to maintain an unbiased perspective.
 
I've been doing this for a long time. I appreciate passion, but it's always a bit of a challenge around here. We can't enforce any particular doctrine, so when accusations of false doctrines start getting slung around, it's often hard to know how to respond without taking sides. We can take sides on certain doctrines which are clear, but there are always those that take issue with EVERY single possible belief and interpretation on every single issue that could ever show it's ugly little head. Sometimes it's worth the time, and other times, I just have to step away for a few days, weeks, months, etc... just to have the energy to maintain an unbiased perspective.

I can only imagine, especially with so many different denominations all coming together in one site. When I first came to this site I always wondered how that would work.

Me personally, I like a few different denominations, but don't ever tell them, because I think they might be offended. :) But I know what you mean, some of these threads become exhausting to read. Sometimes I think the two people that are arguing are saying the same thing, but differently and they just continue to argue lol. I can't imagine having to moderate all of it.
 
I'd say that for the most part, while it's interesting, and a worthy discussion, it's also not really a very important subject to Christians. It gets a bit deep, and mildly confusing. I only really stepped into the topic at all because there are about a dozen pages with the same information repeated over and over and over again with no apparent end.

It was definitely not a subject for me being a newer Christian. I'm just starting to dive into all the new vocabulary and views on scripture and to be honest that thread was really odd. The OP and the one after that should have been good enough. It just gave me a headache to read after that :eek:
 
I can only imagine, especially with so many different denominations all coming together in one site. When I first came to this site I always wondered how that would work.

Me personally, I like a few different denominations, but don't ever tell them, because I think they might be offended. :) But I know what you mean, some of these threads become exhausting to read. Sometimes I think the two people that are arguing are saying the same thing, but differently and they just continue to argue lol. I can't imagine having to moderate all of it.

I'm a pastor in the Church of the Nazarene. My roots are largely Wesleyan/Armenian as a result. I grew up in a Baptist school, and I'm fairly comfortable with Southern Baptists and various other branches. We've had moderators from nearly every denomination imaginable, and we have all generally gotten along pretty well. I've made a few furrows into discovering what some others believe, as for me that is where I gain value in this site. I like to see how others see my God. I like to see His face through your eyes. However, most of those attempts have lead to proselytizing and arguing. As my intention was just to understand how others reconcile what either sounds contradictory to me, or simply doesn't conform to a vision I can really formalize, I tend to be disappointed in the results.
 
It was definitely not a subject for me being a newer Christian. I'm just starting to dive into all the new vocabulary and views on scripture and to be honest that thread was really odd. The OP and the one after that should have been good enough. It just gave me a headache to read after that :eek:
I started laughing when you said it gave you a headache, especially seeing your avatar. I pictured you reading the word Annihilationism and then holding your head saying owe owe owe
 
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