Sex before marriage

My wife and I were both Virgins until got marries, and she was old maid of 30, while i was 35!
My former husband and I too, were virgins and got married at nineteen. Unfortunately the marriage did not work out... I do feel strongly that, had we both been in the Lord, He would have seen a way for us to make our marriage flourish. I have been single for 35 years. I would like to have some men platonic friendships, but men don't seem to want those kind of friendships. 😰
 
My former husband and I too, were virgins and got married at nineteen. Unfortunately the marriage did not work out... I do feel strongly that, had we both been in the Lord, He would have seen a way for us to make our marriage flourish. I have been single for 35 years. I would like to have some men platonic friendships, but men don't seem to want those kind of friendships. 😰

Hey Belinda;

I'm already praying for you and it can happen!

I am honored to have married couples who were just seeking another chance! Some of these are baby boomers.

We have a church Elder, 75 and his girlfriend, 68 or 69, who love each other but don't feel led to get married. Their relationship remains pure and live separately after 9 years together.

Also, today, there are single men of God, no matter our pasts, that are living alone in their home or apartment, financially secure, praying God will send them a good Christian woman and vice versa for a lasting relationship, marriage 😍 🙏 🥰 or plutonic ☺️ 🙏 😇
 
Hey Belinda;

I'm already praying for you and it can happen!

I am honored to have married couples who were just seeking another chance! Some of these are baby boomers.

We have a church Elder, 75 and his girlfriend, 68 or 69, who love each other but don't feel led to get married. Their relationship remains pure and live separately after 9 years together.

Also, today, there are single men of God, no matter our pasts, that are living alone in their home or apartment, financially secure, praying God will send them a good Christian woman and vice versa for a lasting relationship, marriage 😍 🙏 🥰 or plutonic ☺️ 🙏 😇
Hm. Wonder what Paul had to say about this string of comments and responses?

This is one of those topics I feel better not having a public opinion on, as I was not saved until late in life and my youthful activities probably should remain between me and God.

Ok, for the record, I've been married over 25 years, but in my prior unmarried life, I feely admit that this was my greatest weakness and one that I did practically nothing to stop or change.

Sorry....
 
Belinda

Best to read these passages 2 Corinthians 6:12 and also 7:1-9

But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn

(I don't really know what is meant by 'to burn' in this verse, but some people think it means to 'burn with passion' although some think it means 'to burn in hell!)

When you are young and you have your first dose of hormones and become and adult you don't get married when you are 13 (well most people don't). But you also have to learn how to contain yourself. Save your bodily fluids and openings for ONE person to join and marry them rather than just anyone if you aren't going to keep your body for the Lord.

Basically. It's about self-control (translated in other Bibles).

I would agree I don't want men touching my body all the time. If anybody IS going to touch me, it would be my husband and nobody else.
This is also what we touch children not to touch each other, or touch people GENTLY. I am horrified that couples think its even ok to beat each other up and be all rough with each other. But some men think it's ok even in marriage and gives them the right to abuse their wife's body. No it's not.
 
My young example in this area was not the right way. If anything it showed me the importance of not judging others especially those that God has not yet called and are strongly caught up in the world. The other thing God has shown me is that he can take a complete mess of an old man and change it into something new. It doesn't happen over night though and the washing at times wasn't pleasant,
 
Hm. Wonder what Paul had to say about this string of comments and responses?

This is one of those topics I feel better not having a public opinion on, as I was not saved until late in life and my youthful activities probably should remain between me and God.

Ok, for the record, I've been married over 25 years, but in my prior unmarried life, I feely admit that this was my greatest weakness and one that I did practically nothing to stop or change.

Sorry....
Rtm... as far as I know, we all have sinned and fallen short, in one way or another, my brother.
 
Hey Belinda;

I'm already praying for you and it can happen!

I am honored to have married couples who were just seeking another chance! Some of these are baby boomers.

We have a church Elder, 75 and his girlfriend, 68 or 69, who love each other but don't feel led to get married. Their relationship remains pure and live separately after 9 years together.

Also, today, there are single men of God, no matter our pasts, that are living alone in their home or apartment, financially secure, praying God will send them a good Christian woman and vice versa for a lasting relationship, marriage 😍 🙏 🥰 or plutonic ☺️ 🙏 😇
Thanks, Bob, that is encouraging.
 
My former husband and I too, were virgins and got married at nineteen. Unfortunately the marriage did not work out... I do feel strongly that, had we both been in the Lord, He would have seen a way for us to make our marriage flourish. I have been single for 35 years. I would like to have some men platonic friendships, but men don't seem to want those kind of friendships. 😰

I wish I could answer that question for you. I just do not know, other than to say that it is totally human for there to eventually be a physical attraction between man and woman over time.
 
I have discussions with Christians who believe that sex before marriage was fine. I've seen passages about man and wife...but not about,....friends with benefits.
I,do not believe in sex before. Marriage. Can you find some scripture with confirms this?Not about engaged couples...but between friends
I don't think there are any scriptures that say that sex outside of marriage is okay. It's always a sin, even masturbation. This is very hard for a single person to live this way, but it is the right way. There are some incidents in Genesis that almost sound like this, but it's not okay. All those verses are telling us is that sex without marriage happened even way back in beginning, but it doesn't mean it was okay. Ideally sex should only be between a man & woman who are married to each other.
This was easier to follow back when society agreed with this. I shudder at what will happen in the future now that homosexual marriage is legal and being accepted. Things will get even worse now that homosexual couples are being allowed to adopt babies. The problem is I don't have an answer for this problem, I don't even know that there is a solution.

Belindab77, my guess is that these Christians debating this with you are living in sexual sin and they don't want it to be sin so they are denying it. Hopefully they will realize they're wrong before they die.
 
One thing that occurred to me as I thought about this thread over the last little while:

There have been several posts concerning virginity, and I would never counsel against this as it keeps faith with what we know to be God's will, BUT

There has been little talk about chastity. Our faith is not rooted in our own righteousness but in His. Our faith is in redemption by Him, not in our perfection.

There can be many reasons that someone is not virginal at a marriage. Not all of them mean sin. A husband (or wife) who died, wither accidentally, or in was, or in violence can leave the spouse without a mate.


A marriage can fail, and although there are better paths, I will not point fingers at someone that decided that making a permanent break was the best way forward.

But we can all be chaste. Whether never married, or previously married (or with a past choice). Even in marriage, there can (and should be) joyous expressions of love between husband and wife, but presenting a chaste witness to those outside.

It is never too late to live a chaste life.
 
Well, I've worked with several gay workmates, and also one workmate who wasn't gay, had gay parents. He was a test tube baby.
He had like four mums.

It's kinda weird, but I can't treat anyone less than human because they sin or their parents sinned. We all have sinned. If there is anyone who hasn't ever sinned in their life that would be news to me.

'Straight' parents also sin because so many commit adultery, divorce, and have affairs, or rape (force sex) when the other doesn't want it. Even married couples have abortions!

The only way we can cover our sin and be forgiven is through the blood of Jesus Christ.
 
chastity or celibacy is a good thing to practice.
I think it frees you up, and certainly makes for a much happier life.

People often exhibit a sort of desperation when they dont' 'get what they want' and it consumes their every thought. I don't ever want to live like that. Thank God Jesus saved me from a life of slavery to sin.
 
I don't think there are any scriptures that say that sex outside of marriage is okay. It's always a sin, even masturbation. This is very hard for a single person to live this way, but it is the right way. There are some incidents in Genesis that almost sound like this, but it's not okay. All those verses are telling us is that sex without marriage happened even way back in beginning, but it doesn't mean it was okay. Ideally sex should only be between a man & woman who are married to each other.
This was easier to follow back when society agreed with this. I shudder at what will happen in the future now that homosexual marriage is legal and being accepted. Things will get even worse now that homosexual couples are being allowed to adopt babies. The problem is I don't have an answer for this problem, I don't even know that there is a solution.

Belindab77, my guess is that these Christians debating this with you are living in sexual sin and they don't want it to be sin so they are denying it. Hopefully they will realize they're wrong before they die.
This was to be observed and practiced under the Mosaic law, thank God not under NC grace!
if brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the dead man shall not be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her as his wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her.
Deuteronomy 25:5 Esv
 
One thing that occurred to me as I thought about this thread over the last little while:

There have been several posts concerning virginity, and I would never counsel against this as it keeps faith with what we know to be God's will, BUT

There has been little talk about chastity. Our faith is not rooted in our own righteousness but in His. Our faith is in redemption by Him, not in our perfection.

There can be many reasons that someone is not virginal at a marriage. Not all of them mean sin. A husband (or wife) who died, wither accidentally, or in was, or in violence can leave the spouse without a mate.


A marriage can fail, and although there are better paths, I will not point fingers at someone that decided that making a permanent break was the best way forward.

But we can all be chaste. Whether never married, or previously married (or with a past choice). Even in marriage, there can (and should be) joyous expressions of love between husband and wife, but presenting a chaste witness to those outside.

It is never too late to live a chaste life.
The great news is that regardless of the prior situation, that to the Lord can be as if 2 Virgins are now marrying, as the blood of jesus cleanses from all sin!
 
Well, I've worked with several gay workmates, and also one workmate who wasn't gay, had gay parents. He was a test tube baby.
He had like four mums.

It's kinda weird, but I can't treat anyone less than human because they sin or their parents sinned. We all have sinned. If there is anyone who hasn't ever sinned in their life that would be news to me.

'Straight' parents also sin because so many commit adultery, divorce, and have affairs, or rape (force sex) when the other doesn't want it. Even married couples have abortions!

The only way we can cover our sin and be forgiven is through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Yes, but the biblical pattern God Himself established is for only a Man and a Woman to marry and have and raise children!
 
chastity or celibacy is a good thing to practice.
I think it frees you up, and certainly makes for a much happier life.

People often exhibit a sort of desperation when they dont' 'get what they want' and it consumes their every thought. I don't ever want to live like that. Thank God Jesus saved me from a life of slavery to sin.
Jesus stated that God Gifts those that He wants to be celibate, and the majority of us will be married!
 
I don't think there are any scriptures that say that sex outside of marriage is okay. It's always a sin, even masturbation. This is very hard for a single person to live this way, but it is the right way. There are some incidents in Genesis that almost sound like this, but it's not okay. All those verses are telling us is that sex without marriage happened even way back in beginning, but it doesn't mean it was okay. Ideally sex should only be between a man & woman who are married to each other.
This was easier to follow back when society agreed with this. I shudder at what will happen in the future now that homosexual marriage is legal and being accepted. Things will get even worse now that homosexual couples are being allowed to adopt babies. The problem is I don't have an answer for this problem, I don't even know that there is a solution.

Belindab77, my guess is that these Christians debating this with you are living in sexual sin and they don't want it to be sin so they are denying it. Hopefully they will realize they're wrong before they die.
Thank you, John, for expounding.
 
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