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What about those ILLNESSES? That is what they are my friend....ILLNESSES.
Homosexuality is a choice not an ILLNESS. You are trying to excuse homosexuality by equating it to a mental illness so as to make it acceptable.

A person can not be said to have a mental illness unless the person's actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one's ability to function; it does not impair a person's ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships. Additionally, homosexuals are as psychologically healthy as heterosexuals. (Strickland, B.R. (1995). Research on sexual orientation and human development: A commentary. Developmental Psychology, 31, 137-140). Problems with homosexuality stem from the attitudes and actions of others toward homosexuals rather than from a homosexual's sexual preference.

We, you and I can say anything to make sin acceptable today and actually that is one of the reason the world is in such a mess. We call ABORTION a woman's choice but God calls it MURDER.

We call homosexuality as being GAY but God calls it SIN.

You can call it anything you want to but the only one that it matters to is God Himself and He is the one we will stand before on judgment day.
You wrote that the homosexuality is a "sin", how then (it) is not sickness?, and how the homosexuals are not affected mentally after their acts come from their minds?

And what fellowship have the Word of God with some human doctrine based on the human science psychology?

And where is the choice in those cases in which the homosexuals want to leave and stop with the homosexual acts but despite the great efforts they never do not succeed?

And about what "judgment day" you explain after the Theme/Purpose is Full Salvation for the non-saved humans and not destruction? - Luke 9:56 "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them", Luke 19:10 "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."

How it is possible the reverse sexual affects to not come/originate from some unclean spirit(-s)?, and how it is possible the relevant unclean spirits not to impact on mental level in the cases of relevant unclean human activity?

How it is possible the discrimination against the homosexuals to help them?, and what is the difference, between, the absolutely normal and balanced human, and, despised and complexed human?
 
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You wrote that the homosexuality is a "sin", how then (it) is not sickness?, and how the homosexuals are not affected mentally after their acts come from their minds?

And what fellowship have the Word of God with some human doctrine based on the human science psychology?

And where is the choice in those cases in which the homosexuals want to leave and stop with the homosexual acts but despite the great efforts they never do not succeed?

And about what "judgment day" you explain after the Theme/Purpose is Full Salvation for the non-saved humans and not destruction? - Luke 9:56 "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them", Luke 19:10 "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."

How it is possible the reverse sexual affects to not come/originate from some unclean spirit(-s)?, and how it is possible the relevant unclean spirits not to impact on mental level in the cases of relevant unclean human activity?

How it is possible the discrimination against the homosexuals to help them?, and what is the difference, between, the absolutely normal and balanced human, and, despised and complexed human?
Lots and lots of question my friend. That is indicitive of either trying to prove a point or looking for knowledge, which it with you????

First of all, God is the one who wrote that homosexuality is sin, not me. I agree with God.

Then secondly, let me ask you a question.
Why does truth matter? If we have a sincere faith in something -- a personal respect for our personal view of God -- isn’t that enough? Why should a religious belief system even matter? Well, religion doesn’t matter… but a relationship with God does! All the rest is man-made fluff! Since that is the case, what then is more important to you........UNITY or TRUTH???

Thirdly........choice is aleays there. Because one can not make the right choice indicates their lack of faith in Christ that with Him "all things are possible".

What about judgment day??? What would you like to know about it? I listed the Bible verse for you which are very clear.
Luke 9:56 and 19:10 are very, very clear.
Christ DID come to save the lost and He certainly has no desire to destroy anyone. That once again is a CHOICE. You can accept the work Christ did on the cross and His payment for the sins of all men, or you can pay for your sins yourself. CHOICE! The consequences of your choices will be what happens on judgment day.

Then you said.........................
"How it is possible the reverse sexual affects to not come/originate from some unclean spirit(-s)?, and how it is possible the relevant unclean spirits not to impact on mental level in the cases of relevant unclean human activity?"

COME TO CHRIST TODAY___NOW! Confess your sins and ask Jesus to SAVE you from those sins just like you asked the question above already.
There is no sin so great that the Blood of Jesus can not clease you from.
Then REPENT! Change direction. TURN from your sin and do them no more.

Then you said...........
How it is possible the discrimination against the homosexuals to help them?, and what is the difference, between, the absolutely normal and balanced human, and, despised and complexed human>

I do not understand your question.
 

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Lots and lots of question my friend. That is indicitive of either trying to prove a point or looking for knowledge, which it with you????

First of all, God is the one who wrote that homosexuality is sin, not me. I agree with God.

Then secondly, let me ask you a question.
Why does truth matter? If we have a sincere faith in something -- a personal respect for our personal view of God -- isn’t that enough? Why should a religious belief system even matter? Well, religion doesn’t matter… but a relationship with God does! All the rest is man-made fluff! Since that is the case, what then is more important to you........UNITY or TRUTH???

Thirdly........choice is aleays there. Because one can not make the right choice indicates their lack of faith in Christ that with Him "all things are possible".

What about judgment day??? What would you like to know about it? I listed the Bible verse for you which are very clear.
Luke 9:56 and 19:10 are very, very clear.
Christ DID come to save the lost and He certainly has no desire to destroy anyone. That once again is a CHOICE. You can accept the work Christ did on the cross and His payment for the sins of all men, or you can pay for your sins yourself. CHOICE! The consequences of your choices will be what happens on judgment day.

Then you said.........................
"How it is possible the reverse sexual affects to not come/originate from some unclean spirit(-s)?, and how it is possible the relevant unclean spirits not to impact on mental level in the cases of relevant unclean human activity?"

COME TO CHRIST TODAY___NOW! Confess your sins and ask Jesus to SAVE you from those sins just like you asked the question above already.
There is no sin so great that the Blood of Jesus can not clease you from.
Then REPENT! Change direction. TURN from your sin and do them no more.

Then you said...........
How it is possible the discrimination against the homosexuals to help them?, and what is the difference, between, the absolutely normal and balanced human, and, despised and complexed human>

I do not understand your question.
Why always you say that some sickness is (a) sin?, and why you do not call the sickness with the real it name?

The Truth of Holy God is very Important, and not for destruction, but for Salvation, and it is the Intellectual form of the Love/Good, by it we can be more Good and non-evil to all humans - actually, namely the Perfect Love/Good is the Truth.

After/if the choice is someway unapproachable for some non-believers, why/how the choice always is(to be) their, and why they to be guilty? And what, if they do not know something or enough about Christ?

The "judgement day" is just some fear that is only in the minds of some peolpe who fear/afraid. But (an-)other is to dare be prayer for the Saving of every human, becasue in the Perfect Love there is not any fear. And the users can not be guilty for the crime(-s) of the servents.

What if because of some reasons some people can not to confess their sins?, and if they can not to ask Jesus to Save them? And if Jesus say: "I am wtih the Good humans", why then someone churchman must be passive about the direct salvage? How each human will: repent, change direction, turn from the....?, after this is entire big program?
 
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Why always you say that some sickness is (a) sin?, and why you do not call the sickness with the real it name?

The Truth of Holy God is very Important, and not for destruction, but for Salvation, and it is the Intellectual form of the Love/Good, by it we can be more Good and non-evil to all humans - actually, namely the Perfect Love/Good is the Truth.

After/if the choice is someway unapproachable for some non-believers, why/how the choice always is(to be) their, and why they to be guilty? And what, if they do not know something or enough about Christ?

The "judgement day" is just some fear that is only in the minds of some peolpe who fear/afraid. But (an-)other is to dare be prayer for the Saving of every human, becasue in the Perfect Love there is not any fear. And the users can not be guilty for the crime(-s) of the servents.

What if because of some reasons some people can not to confess their sins?, and if they can not to ask Jesus to Save them? And if Jesus say: "I am wtih the Good humans", why then someone churchman must be passive about the direct salvage? How each human will: repent, change direction, turn from the....?, after this is entire big program?
I can not respond to this beause I have no idea what is being said. Sorry!!!
 
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Why don't you read responce #33 and notice WHO it was directed to.

That's the one I quoted.
OK....you win!

I don't know why this is important to you, but it is obviouse it is. As I read those posts it seems to me you are in agreement to the one it was referenceed to so what is the concern?
 

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Also has and spiritual illnesses, in fact, each deterioration/disease is caused by some unclean spirit(-s) - every evil comes from the kingdom of "darkness".
 

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This is a very strange topic. Not only is the basic question of the topic a bit odd, but the way it has progressed has a very strange tone to it. The easy answer to the original topic has nothing to do with any literal connection to Sodom. I am pretty sure this is just a linguistic quirk that has been taken WAY too far, but I really just don't see how any of this actually matters.
 
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This is a very strange topic. Not only is the basic question of the topic a bit odd, but the way it has progressed has a very strange tone to it. The easy answer to the original topic has nothing to do with any literal connection to Sodom. I am pretty sure this is just a linguistic quirk that has been taken WAY too far, but I really just don't see how any of this actually matters.
The basic point of the thread is that sodomite is not a Biblical term and that even as it is used in KJV, it does not refer to homosexuals. Maybe it's fallen out of use in other places, but where I live Christians still use it that way.

And to be honest, somebody in another thread asked me to post a "gay" thread and it was only thing I could think of at the moment.
 

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Pardon the expression, but this thread has definitely achieved a degree of "gayness". Not the homosexual gayness, but the kind of gayness that emo teens use to describe what my generation called "lame". I think we can safely allow this topic to die now, may it rest in peace.
 
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Pardon the expression, but this thread has definitely achieved a degree of "gayness". Not the homosexual gayness, but the kind of gayness that emo teens use to describe what my generation called "lame". I think we can safely allow this topic to die now, may it rest in peace.
Yeah, but just to set the record straight, it was St. Peter Damien who coined the word sodomite in the 11th century.
 

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Pardon the expression, but this thread has definitely achieved a degree of "gayness". Not the homosexual gayness, but the kind of gayness that emo teens use to describe what my generation called "lame". I think we can safely allow this topic to die now, may it rest in peace.
And so it will.
 
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