Your quote Mike was.........
"Tongues is also a quick way to hear God and get wisdom. There is not scripture for that but ask anyone that does speak in tongues. "
Now when I read comment #15 of this thread you repeat what you have said on another thread and that is.........
"You know, I am 100% scripture only."
Mike, do you see what is happening. You say one thing, and I agree with it, and then change it to accommodate your desires when the Bible does not say it and even admitting "......There is not scripture for that but ask anyone that does speak in tongues. "
OK Major. First, Jesus was speaking to the 11 and for those that believe and are baptized. He was speaking us also because we believe. If we start down this road, then whosoever believes on him might not be for us because He was not talking to us but them and anyone that heard.
We don't spiritualize something because we lack faith. We don't say that was for them when the Holy Spirit gave it to us. We change our thinking and believe.
Just because I don't want to believe in Healing, does not mean by his stripes we are healed is just some spiritual thing nobody knows. It means we are actually healed and that is physical.
Just because I don't have something I see in the Word does not make it not so or unobtainable.
I showed you........... Tongues is praying in the Spirit. Paul said that, and so it must be something we should look into and get also because praying is a good thing. Paul said when you speak tongues, speak to yourself and God. Speaking to God is a good thing, being edified is a good thing. We should find out what the tongues thing is all about.
Lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Why? Because I believe just like the 11 and God is no respecter of persons. Peter said this man was made whole by faith in the name of Jesus. The name has not lost power so it must be a faith issue if it don't work for someone.
Major........ read the word simply.
If I could spend time with you, then you could see the operation of tongues. In fact it would not even be that hard for you to also receive the gift also. It is really a simple thing of asking and believe that your recieve. Just like when someone gets born again.
If I talk myself out of it, then I don't expect or hope for it.
Every single spiritual gift does not have scripture for scripture on how it operates. The Spirit of God is vast and we had a thread along these lines about that. I can't give scripture on how tongues has worked in my life in all instances. It changes languages, I get a word of Wisdom from God. It's prayer, and like English prayer for Wisdom.
I don't accept spiritual things that don't line up with the Word. I know that can cover a whole lot of stuff, but we have the word to keep the devil out.
15 or so Years Brother I have been speaking in tongues and been around it. You just can't pass it off as everyone got confused.
You can speak in tongues and write a paper, you can't do that speaking English because you need your head to write the paper. It's real easy to tell the real thing because Tongues comes from the spirit, not the head.
Simple, like a child, if Jesus said you shall speak new tongues, then don't complicate it. People attempt to remove hell by these methods and we just want to read and believe.
In the context of strictly following the Word, I'm curious what those that claim everyone has to speak in tongues do with Paul's rhetorical question in 1 Cor 12:30
Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
Sorry if I have stepped on some toes, but I have to deal with those poor souls that have prayed and haven't received the gift of tongues, their faith shipwrecked, ready to turn away from Jesus, for me the emphasis of tongues does more damage than good in the Body of Christ.
Gene
Your misreading what Paul said. I went over it in other post, but you don't take a scripture out of context. Only by 2-3 IN CHURCH to avoid confusion should here be tongues if that is what the person leading the service wants to do. Decent and in Order.
You also missed the Verse Where Paul also said...... I wish ye all spoke in tongues, but there is a better way. So you best get cracking and get in line with getting those tongues.
Also, there is no such thing as someone's faith that is shipwrecked because God did not keep his word. That means they stopped believing somewhere, not God's fault. Abraham is a good example of someone that counted God faithful that promised and he waited a very long time, years and years.
Real faith never gets discouraged, and their hope is not made ashamed.
Tongues is very simple to receive. I have run into the hard headed but I normally can get through to where they get it and receive. You have to value something though to receive it. If you don't see value in something God has for you, then seeking it won't last but a few weeks before you give up.
It seems we need lessons on faith, something that should have been taught right off the bat as a new believer.
Blessings.l