Mike, we have to remember that God is in a very unique position as he knows everything that is going to happened before it happens. If the Lord knew according to his foreknowledge that some child would grow up and be a man or woman seeking God he would not have had that person killed. Everything the Lord does is according to His foreknowledge. He is just, and fair in all his dealings with man.Yes I would love to ask and I have except I never hear anything backThis is why I am struggling! So many other questions about killings of innocent people that have taken place in the Bible but none of my questions are ever answered. Instead people just defend the killing of innocent people/children/babies.
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But I thought that the reason God killed the babies was because he was giving them a quicker ticket to heaven! Now you are telling me the reason God killed them was because they didn't fit the bill for faith immunity?
Amen. He is Just.
Stick to that, and you will understand the other Christians point of view, and not to judge them in the context of the Accuser....
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I meant physical life. God could keep our physical bodies alive forever, but He doesn't. So, it's wrong for God to end, or allow to end, a child's life but it's okay for an 80 year old man? I don't think that makes sense.
Your clearly not trying to hear what was written to you! You seem to want to accuse God of some crime and make yourself a judge of God?
What is evil?
Well it does not matter if the person is 80 or 8 months. It is wrong to kill people as per Jesus's commands PERIOD! I also think you make a good point when you ask why God does not allow us to live forever in our Earthly bodies. As I told another user whats the point of creating something is your just going to destroy it or allow it to be destroyed. Would you take the time, hard work and effort to build a house only to allow it to be destroyed or to destroy it yourself? That is what does not make sense my good friend.
Killing innocent humans, especially infants which can be construed as satanism.
I am amazed that you know what I am reading! Thats a pretty big judgement for a Christian!! In fact you couldn't be more wrong. I have read every post on here and a point that a user made was that the reason God killed infants was to give them a quicker ride up to the pearly gates. Please brother think before you speak as to not make a pharisee of yourself!
Jesus came to give life, and to have it more abundantly. Killing is not life more abundantly!
Exo 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exo 20:6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Obviously kids emulate their parents. They do what they see their parents do. If parents do wickedness so shall their children follow suit.
They don't have to act like their teachers, but they usually do.
If you could stand at the end of all things and see what every life will become as God does, you would understand the heart of God in his mercy.
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God allowed us to do what we wanted, and we wanted to sin. There are consequences for our actions.
Let's say you made a house. Once the house is falling apart wouldn't you tear it down?
I'm sure this has already been asked, but I can't remember. Do you consider yourself Christian?
I would consider him to be one, given what he said in his profile....
A child learning about the 10 Plagues of Egypt will realize God's sovereignty...
But an adult will try to rationalize: even questioning God's sovereignty...
Even questioning Exodus, or even the Psalms...
Psalm 78 English Standard Version (ESV)
Tell the Coming Generation
A Maskil[a] of Asaph.
78 Give ear, O my people, to my teaching;
incline your ears to the words of my mouth!
2 I will open my mouth in a parable;
I will utter dark sayings from of old,
3 things that we have heard and known,
that our fathers have told us.
4 We will not hide them from their children,
but tell to the coming generation
the glorious deeds of the Lord, and his might,
and the wonders that he has done.
5 He established a testimony in Jacob
and appointed a law in Israel,
which he commanded our fathers
to teach to their children,
6 that the next generation might know them,
the children yet unborn,
and arise and tell them to their children,
7 so that they should set their hope in God
and not forget the works of God,
but keep his commandments;
8 and that they should not be like their fathers,
a stubborn and rebellious generation,
a generation whose heart was not steadfast,
whose spirit was not faithful to God.
9 The Ephraimites, armed with[b] the bow,
turned back on the day of battle.
10 They did not keep God's covenant,
but refused to walk according to his law.
11 They forgot his works
and the wonders that he had shown them.
12 In the sight of their fathers he performed wonders
in the land of Egypt, in the fields of Zoan.
13 He divided the sea and let them pass through it,
and made the waters stand like a heap.
14 In the daytime he led them with a cloud,
and all the night with a fiery light.
15 He split rocks in the wilderness
and gave them drink abundantly as from the deep.
16 He made streams come out of the rock
and caused waters to flow down like rivers.
17 Yet they sinned still more against him,
rebelling against the Most High in the desert.
18 They tested God in their heart
by demanding the food they craved.
19 They spoke against God, saying,
“Can God spread a table in the wilderness?
20 He struck the rock so that water gushed out
and streams overflowed.
Can he also give bread
or provide meat for his people?”
21 Therefore, when the Lord heard, he was full of wrath;
a fire was kindled against Jacob;
his anger rose against Israel,
22 because they did not believe in God
and did not trust his saving power.
23 Yet he commanded the skies above
and opened the doors of heaven,
24 and he rained down on them manna to eat
and gave them the grain of heaven.
25 Man ate of the bread of the angels;
he sent them food in abundance.
26 He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens,
and by his power he led out the south wind;
27 he rained meat on them like dust,
winged birds like the sand of the seas;
28 he let them fall in the midst of their camp,
all around their dwellings.
29 And they ate and were well filled,
for he gave them what they craved.
30 But before they had satisfied their craving,
while the food was still in their mouths,
31 the anger of God rose against them,
and he killed the strongest of them
and laid low the young men of Israel.
32 In spite of all this, they still sinned;
despite his wonders, they did not believe.
33 So he made their days vanish like[c] a breath,[d]
and their years in terror.
34 When he killed them, they sought him;
they repented and sought God earnestly.
35 They remembered that God was their rock,
the Most High God their redeemer.
36 But they flattered him with their mouths;
they lied to him with their tongues.
37 Their heart was not steadfast toward him;
they were not faithful to his covenant.
38 Yet he, being compassionate,
atoned for their iniquity
and did not destroy them;
he restrained his anger often
and did not stir up all his wrath.
39 He remembered that they were but flesh,
a wind that passes and comes not again.
40 How often they rebelled against him in the wilderness
and grieved him in the desert!
41 They tested God again and again
and provoked the Holy One of Israel.
42 They did not remember his power[e]
or the day when he redeemed them from the foe,
43 when he performed his signs in Egypt
and his marvels in the fields of Zoan.
44 He turned their rivers to blood,
so that they could not drink of their streams.
45 He sent among them swarms of flies, which devoured them,
and frogs, which destroyed them.
46 He gave their crops to the destroying locust
and the fruit of their labor to the locust.
47 He destroyed their vines with hail
and their sycamores with frost.
48 He gave over their cattle to the hail
and their flocks to thunderbolts.
49 He let loose on them his burning anger,
wrath, indignation, and distress,
a company of destroying angels.
50 He made a path for his anger;
he did not spare them from death,
but gave their lives over to the plague.
51 He struck down every firstborn in Egypt,
the firstfruits of their strength in the tents of Ham.
52 Then he led out his people like sheep
and guided them in the wilderness like a flock.
53 He led them in safety, so that they were not afraid,
but the sea overwhelmed their enemies.
54 And he brought them to his holy land,
to the mountain which his right hand had won.
55 He drove out nations before them;
he apportioned them for a possession
and settled the tribes of Israel in their tents.
56 Yet they tested and rebelled against the Most High God
and did not keep his testimonies,
57 but turned away and acted treacherously like their fathers;
they twisted like a deceitful bow.
58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places;
they moved him to jealousy with their idols.
59 When God heard, he was full of wrath,
and he utterly rejected Israel.
60 He forsook his dwelling at Shiloh,
the tent where he dwelt among mankind,
61 and delivered his power to captivity,
his glory to the hand of the foe.
62 He gave his people over to the sword
and vented his wrath on his heritage.
63 Fire devoured their young men,
and their young women had no marriage song.
64 Their priests fell by the sword,
and their widows made no lamentation.
65 Then the Lord awoke as from sleep,
like a strong man shouting because of wine.
66 And he put his adversaries to rout;
he put them to everlasting shame.
67 He rejected the tent of Joseph;
he did not choose the tribe of Ephraim,
68 but he chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion, which he loves.
69 He built his sanctuary like the high heavens,
like the earth, which he has founded forever.
70 He chose David his servant
and took him from the sheepfolds;
71 from following the nursing ewes he brought him
to shepherd Jacob his people,
Israel his inheritance.
72 With upright heart he shepherded them
and guided them with his skillful hand
God did just that. He created the earth and set it in motion, teeming with life---and destroyed it with a flood. Why? Because He was grieved by the wickedness of man. Does that make God wicked? That is what you seem to think, and it is a grievous mistake.
No one was innocent.
Good morning guys! My Internet on computer doesn't work. Only from phone. So I can't see any negative ratings, so please only give me "likes." That's all I can see.
Also, something I have to remind myself too, for the true Christians here, lets try to be as loving as possible when we debate. Even if we feel that someone is provoking us to anger, don't fall into it.
. Have a great day!
Also, something I have to remind myself too, for the true Christians here, lets try to be as loving as possible when we debate. Even if we feel that someone is provoking us to anger, don't fall into it.
. Have a great day!I mean what is literally evil? What te definition...
well its clear that you are NOT hearing what has been posted in response to your errors. As far as my authority to judge these matters, that not for you to "judge"
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