Seems to me that either one could be used to describe exhilaration, but I can see how there could be two ideas.Tonight at church I again heard it asserted that joy and happiness are not the same. While I ready to accept this as true, I have never understood this. I would be grateful if any of you could help me in understanding this better
seems those i made red font are fleeting....Scripture often talks about joy and there is an association in scripture that joy is a counterbalance (of sorts) to trials, tribulations, testing,suffering ... It would seem that "joy" is more substantial than happiness, not nearly as fleeting, is grounded is faith... This still doesn't get me to a spot where I feel like I understand.
Interesting, yes I agree: how it is used, I think one can say: "Happiness is a pursuit, while Joy is a gift."there is the idea that one comes from man, and the other comes from God.
I would say that you have that backwards, happiness is an emotion that comes and goes, joy is more of a state of being.I always looked at Joy as something being temporary, a feeling of the moment. But Happiness is a state of being that you are feeling over a long period of time.
I find joy in suffering; especially when I'm being persecuted for my belief in Jesus Christ. I may also be feeling depressed, anxious and wronged (humans feel a multitude of emotions at the same time); but the knowledge that He is with me and standing by me gives me joy in the midst of it.I appreciate your response, but confess that I do not understand. I have always understood joy and happy to be almost interchangeable. Clearly they are related, but I am hearing more and more, in Christian communities, that the difference is significant. I just haven't understood the difference.
As to your response, I think we can all agree that Christ was not happy on the cross. Would He have been, it would not have been called suffering. But how is there joy, what is joy that is distinct from happy? I believe the difference people are trying to explain is more than significant, but is till don't get it.