The kingdom of God

I see what you are saying, By Faith and I answered in multiple ways. Apparently you think you have nothing to learn. The mustard seed, Christ says - is ALL you need to move mountains. I, perhaps, have misunderstood you but I am reading that you think one believer can have more faith than another by time and reading scripture. If I am wrong correct me. But Satan has read scripture for millenia and could beat any one of us in a trivia contest. But he understands nothing. Why? Because he doesn't have the Holy Spirit as decoder. And every believer gets indwelt - not some more than others by "works". What I used to call the "good me" inside my head that told me to avoid sin, I thought was me. I gave myself a lot of credit that actually belonged to the Holy Spirit. The HS doesn't get more - we change as a result of His guidance.
 
Now, If a person lives in sin, does not seek the Kingdom of God, are they still entitled to the provision Jesus mentioned here?

Or, are they like Paul said, drunks, fornicators do not partake of the Kingdom of God here?

Which is it?

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

1 Cor 6:11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 
The true believer does not "continue" in a particular "sin" [behavior] while in the physical body, but will be subjected to correction sooner or later and will abandon the practice

At the same time the Lord looks past one's sinful nature if the same person is in Christ .... this is what salvation is all about

Sinning is a very broad avenue and for example even in the case where a man looks upon a woman [other than his spouse] with sexual lust, but does not actually engage .... or thinks hateful thoughts against another, but does not take revenge when abused

Assuming that you are born of God can you actually and truthfully say that you never sin either by commitment, or omission?
 
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

1 Cor 6:11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

I undertand what your saying. It's not cut and dried as we like it to be though. Believers take long vacations from obeying God, then come back, sick, broke and in tears and God loves them and restores them.

We can't take people and say to those stuck in porn, and junk and tell them they were never saved because they continue to practice sin. John Said God's seed remains in them.
What is the time limit or staying in sin? A day, a week, 10 years?

At what point do we say they were never born of God?

1Jn 3:3-6 kjva 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Rom 8:1 kjva There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Gal 5:16 kjva This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

2Ti 2:20-21 kjva 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

Gal 6:1 kjva Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Christians get off track, sometimes way off track. We are told to walk after the spirit, to abide and stayin Jesus, to purge ourselves, to be transformed by the renewing of our minds, to recieve with meekness the engrafted word which saves our souls (Changes mind and emotions)

We do these things. Without the Holy Spirit and help, we can't do these things.

Some don't do these things at all. There are Christains that have been saved for years and have no power in their life and still babies wanting milk.

This is why Paul said........... If your a drunk and so on, you will not partake of the will and rule of God. You miss out on the power of the Kingdom in your life.

We just can't take people who did accept Jesus and throw them into the saved unsaved catagory by acts of their flesh.

He keeps sinning, so God's seed must have never been in him......... Oh NO..........

We restore them back with meekness. They need help, captured by the devil to do his will.

Jim Baker lives down the street from me. Great guy, but He went through some bad times by his own devices. Cancer almost killed him in prison. He lost all those blessings, healing and power because he kept ignoring God about money... It cost him.

Does not mean he was never saved, just means he got dumb for awhile. Now God is blessing him again and helping him.

Hence Paul's warning about not being partakers, in God's will, rule and reign in our life.
 
I undertand what your saying. It's not cut and dried as we like it to be though. Believers take long vacations from obeying God, then come back, sick, broke and in tears and God loves them and restores them.

Bottom line, 1 Cor 9-10 is about nonbelievers and 1 Cor 11 is about believers in Christ. If a born again christian sins before he dies he is going to heaven. Why? Because he has been washed in the blood of Jesus Christ. If a born again christian keeps sinning, then the Holy Spirit will convict him and teach him the way back to righteousness. But in no circumstance does he lose his salvation, the blood of Jesus covers ALL sins and he will indeed enter the kingdom of God. - ATP

OUR WORKS ARE BUT FILTHY RAGS - Isa 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

HE REMAINS FAITHFUL - 2 Tim 2:13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

NEITHER PRESENT NOR FUTURE CAN SEPARATE US - Rom 8:31-39 - More Than Conquerors

31What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;

we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord

CAN NEVER PERISH, SPOIL OR FADE - 1 Peter 1:4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you,

NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEM OUT OF THE HAND OF JESUS AND THE HAND OF THE FATHER - John 10:28-30 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”
 
Bottom line, 1 Cor 9-10 is about nonbelievers and 1 Cor 11 is about believers in Christ. If a born again christian sins before he dies he is going to heaven. Why? Because he has been washed in the blood of Jesus Christ. If a born again christian keeps sinning, then the Holy Spirit will convict him and teach him the way back to righteousness. But in no circumstance does he lose his salvation, the blood of Jesus covers ALL sins and he will indeed enter the kingdom of God. - ATP

OUR WORKS ARE BUT FILTHY RAGS - Isa 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

HE REMAINS FAITHFUL - 2 Tim 2:13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

NEITHER PRESENT NOR FUTURE CAN SEPARATE US - Rom 8:31-39 - More Than Conquerors

31What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;

we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord

CAN NEVER PERISH, SPOIL OR FADE - 1 Peter 1:4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you,

NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEM OUT OF THE HAND OF JESUS AND THE HAND OF THE FATHER - John 10:28-30 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

Your OSAS doctrine of men is causing you to misunderstand that a believer through disobedience can fail to operate in the Power of God with the authority of the name of Jesus. So you have to cut and dry things as your OSAS doctrine limits what your able to know.

Jesus said, if I cast out devils by the finger of God then the Kingdom of God has come to you. Any person who does the things Paul said will be following the enemy and out of the Power of the Kingdom of God which just means to have authority with God.

3 pages now, and you still don't get it. It's a warning to believers. The unsaved never had a part in the Kingdom of God, and the only sin they get judged on is no believing on Jesus, not the list Paul gave which is for us.
 
Psalm 51:5, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.” The apostle Paul wrote that we all gratify “the cravings of our sinful nature” (Ephesians 2:3).
We all sin, it is by Jesus we are forgiven.
 
that a believer through disobedience can fail to operate in the Power of God with the authority of the name of Jesus.

I agree with your statement here, but the believer simply loses rewards in heaven, not his salvation. And I agree, works without faith is dead.

The unsaved never had a part in the Kingdom of God, and the only sin they get judged on is no believing on Jesus.

Correct.

not the list Paul gave which is for us.

But he vindicates himself by adding verse 11.."BUT you were washed, sanctified...

The sins in verse 9-10 are about the unsaved.
 
I agree with your statement here, but the believer simply loses rewards in heaven, not his salvation. And I agree, works without faith is dead.



Correct.



But he vindicates himself by adding verse 11.."BUT you were washed, sanctified...

The sins in verse 9-10 are about the unsaved.

Lets go from another side of this.

1Th 2:12 kjva That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

What happens if you don't walk worthy? You still get the same power and favor with God that others do who are obedient and walk worthy? You still get to partake in the Rule of God (Kingdom of God) ?

2Th 1:5 kjva Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

Is there suffering in Heaven? Nope.
Is there suffering for doing work in the Kingdom of God here with reward? Yes.

Is it possible to not get the good things from the Kingdom of God while on Earth? Yep.

What happens if you drink to much, and lie some. That mean you get unsaved, or it mean your prayers can be hindered and not get God's best.

Gal 5:21-26 kjva 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Rom 8:3-5 kjva 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Now, if Paul is speaking to the unsaved who do those things mentioned and the unsaved don't get to partake of the Kingdom of God, then the unsaved can be saved by works, not a belief on Jesus.
All the unsaved have to do is not do those things, and BAM, they get the Kingdom of God.

If Paul is speaking to believers, and telling them to walk after the Spirit and not fullfill the lust of the Flesh, or else they don't get to partake of the Kingdom of God, then Paul is speaking to believers.

The unsaved have no part in the Kingdom of God without Jesus. Paul is not speaking to them. Walk after Christ, or walk after the Anointed one and his anointing by which we won't follow the flesh.
 
What happens if you don't walk worthy? You still get the same power and favor with God that others do who are obedient and walk worthy? You still get to partake in the Rule of God (Kingdom of God) ?

No, a born again believer who is not walking in obedience will not have the same power on this earth as a believer who is walking in obedience. But when that disobedient born again believer dies he is going into the kingdom. Why? Because Jesus died for all sins. He will enter the kingdom, but he will lose out on some rewards and crowns. Having power through the Holy Spirit on this old earth and entering into the kingdom after you die is apples and oranges. (This life vs. afterlife).

Crown 1 - Crown Of Righteousness— Loved The Lord's Appearing - 2 Tim 4:8
Crown 2 - Incorruptible Crown— Disciplined Bodies / Self-Control - 1 Cor 9:25-27
Crown 3 - Crown Of Life— Endured Patiently Thru Trials - James 1:12, Rev 2:10
Crown 4 - Crown Of Glory— Godly Leaders Who Were Examples To Flock - 1 Pet 5:2-4
Crown 5 - Crown Of Rejoicing— Soul Winners Crown - 1 Thess 2:19, Dan 12:3

2 Th 1:5 - Yes, and once you come to faith in Jesus Christ you are counted worthy Rom 10:9.

What happens if you drink to much, and lie some. That mean you get unsaved, or it mean your prayers can be hindered and not get God's best.

You can't get saved, unsaved, saved, unsaved, saved, unsaved and saved again. The Holy Spirit doesn't enter our body, leave our body, enter it again, leave it again then enter it again. That is silly and is not biblical. Once you believe and come to faith you are then sealed with the promised Holy Spirit. God also doesn't work that way, he's not flimsy or temporal. God is eternal, and his promises are eternal. Unconditional love means just that. Jesus didn't die for your sins under flimsy conditions. Why? Because human beings are carnal in nature. The only perfect being was Jesus Christ. Why would he ask us to live up to that kind of deity? It's impossible, and Jesus knew that. That's why he took on all sins, past/present/future. He made sure there was no gaps in God's salvation plan for us. Disobedience only results in lack of rewards and crowns in heaven, not salvation. The blood of Jesus is permanent, and thank the Lord for that.

Now, if Paul is speaking to the unsaved who do those things mentioned and the unsaved don't get to partake of the Kingdom of God, then the unsaved can be saved by works, not a belief on Jesus.
All the unsaved have to do is not do those things, and BAM, they get the Kingdom of God.

No. When I say the word 'unsaved' I'm referring to those who are not born again. These people have not accepted Christ as their Savior and are still of the world. Following Rom 9:10 is what gets you into heaven. Belief alone gets you into heaven, not works.

If Paul is speaking to believers, and telling them to walk after the Spirit and not fullfill the lust of the Flesh, or else they don't get to partake of the Kingdom of God, then Paul is speaking to believers.

But in 1 Cor 6:9-10 he is not speaking about believers. He is stating two facts in verse 9-10. (1.) the fate of the unsaved and (2.) the condition of what the kingdom of God will be like. The kingdom of God will be without sin. If you read the beginning he starts it by saying, "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not"....he is stating facts, nothing more nothing less.

The unsaved have no part in the Kingdom of God without Jesus. Paul is not speaking to them. Walk after Christ, or walk after the Anointed one and his anointing by which we won't follow the flesh.

But in 1 Cor 6:9-10 Paul is specifically speaking about the sinner that is not born again. He is simply stating a fact about the kingdom of God. We know Paul is not talking about believers in verse 9-10 because he shows us in verse 11 why that is. Verse 11 connects all his thoughts on this topic.
 
No, a born again believer who is not walking in obedience will not have the same power on this earth as a believer who is walking in obedience. But when that disobedient born again believer dies he is going into the kingdom. Why? Because Jesus died for all sins. He will enter the kingdom, but he will lose out on some rewards and crowns. Having power through the Holy Spirit on this old earth and entering into the kingdom after you die is apples and oranges. (This life vs. afterlife).

Crown 1 - Crown Of Righteousness— Loved The Lord's Appearing - 2 Tim 4:8
Crown 2 - Incorruptible Crown— Disciplined Bodies / Self-Control - 1 Cor 9:25-27
Crown 3 - Crown Of Life— Endured Patiently Thru Trials - James 1:12, Rev 2:10
Crown 4 - Crown Of Glory— Godly Leaders Who Were Examples To Flock - 1 Pet 5:2-4
Crown 5 - Crown Of Rejoicing— Soul Winners Crown - 1 Thess 2:19, Dan 12:3

2 Th 1:5 - Yes, and once you come to faith in Jesus Christ you are counted worthy Rom 10:9.



You can't get saved, unsaved, saved, unsaved, saved, unsaved and saved again. The Holy Spirit doesn't enter our body, leave our body, enter it again, leave it again then enter it again. That is silly and is not biblical. Once you believe and come to faith you are then sealed with the promised Holy Spirit. God also doesn't work that way, he's not flimsy or temporal. God is eternal, and his promises are eternal. Unconditional love means just that. Jesus didn't die for your sins under flimsy conditions. Why? Because human beings are carnal in nature. The only perfect being was Jesus Christ. Why would he ask us to live up to that kind of deity? It's impossible, and Jesus knew that. That's why he took on all sins, past/present/future. He made sure there was no gaps in God's salvation plan for us. Disobedience only results in lack of rewards and crowns in heaven, not salvation. The blood of Jesus is permanent, and thank the Lord for that.



No. When I say the word 'unsaved' I'm referring to those who are not born again. These people have not accepted Christ as their Savior and are still of the world. Following Rom 9:10 is what gets you into heaven. Belief alone gets you into heaven, not works.



But in 1 Cor 6:9-10 he is not speaking about believers. He is stating two facts in verse 9-10. (1.) the fate of the unsaved and (2.) the condition of what the kingdom of God will be like. The kingdom of God will be without sin. If you read the beginning he starts it by saying, "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not"....he is stating facts, nothing more nothing less.



But in 1 Cor 6:9-10 Paul is specifically speaking about the sinner that is not born again. He is simply stating a fact about the kingdom of God. We know Paul is not talking about believers in verse 9-10 because he shows us in verse 11 why that is. Verse 11 connects all his thoughts on this topic.

Ok, we both agree that a believer in disobedience, not doing the plan of God, or even in sin does not have the same power from God in their life that a obedient person would experience full of faith and trusting God.

We agree.

We are still getting hung up on this saved, unsaved, saved, unsaved. I never said anything about someone getting saved and unsaved then saved again.

You can't wrap your head around the fact that "KINGDOM" is not a place. Heaven is a place, a Greek Male noun. Kingdom is a Female Greek noun that means to Rule over.

There is NO KINGDOM mentioned that we go to in any scripture...... ZERO. We don't even have a scripture for that.

There is a rule and power of God here on earth though. Jesus said if I cast out devils by the finger of God, then the Kingdom of God has come upon you.

The Rule and power of God to enforce the will of God on earth as it is in Heaven, given to us as the body of Christ.

NOW.................. If we live in disobedience and those things Paul mentioned. It's not that we are not saved, but we don't get to partake (Same Greek Word meaning Inheritance) in that power over devils or anything else here on earth.

It has nothing to do with being saved or not saved. It has to do with the power and rule of God in our life here....... (Kingdom of God)

Now the scripture said in a great house there are many vessles. Some to dishonour and some to honor. Purge yourself to become a vessel of honor fit for the Masters use.

All the vessels in the same house, some are usable some are not. A believer can purge themselves and get right with God again.

It's not that they are not saved, they are not living in the Kingdom of God. There is no power in their life.

Get the idea that Kingdom is a place......... It's not. It's a position.

I just believe you will see this.
 
We are still getting hung up on this saved, unsaved, saved, unsaved. I never said anything about someone getting saved and unsaved then saved again.

By Faith said and I quote, "What happens if you drink to much, and lie some. That mean you get unsaved," (End Quote)

You can't wrap your head around the fact that "KINGDOM" is not a place. Heaven is a place, a Greek Male noun. Kingdom is a Female Greek noun that means to Rule over.
And you can't wrap your head around the fact that the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven are the same thing.

NOW.................. If we live in disobedience and those things Paul mentioned. It's not that we are not saved, but we don't get to partake (Same Greek Word meaning Inheritance) in that power over devils or anything else here on earth.
It has nothing to do with being saved or not saved. It has to do with the power and rule of God in our life here....... (Kingdom of God)

But if you're saved you are already part of the eternal inheritance.

It's not that they are not saved, they are not living in the Kingdom of God. There is no power in their life.

They're not living in the kingdom? Not sure what that means. If you're born again, the kingdom is always within you. You can quench the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit will never leave you.

Get the idea that Kingdom is a place......... It's not. It's a position.

You're not understanding that the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven are the same thing. They exist within two different realms, spiritually and physically. How can Jesus sit if he's not in a place. Where is he sitting, on thin air?? Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
 
By Faith said and I quote, "What happens if you drink to much, and lie some. That mean you get unsaved," (End Quote)


And you can't wrap your head around the fact that the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven are the same thing.



But if you're saved you are already part of the eternal inheritance.



They're not living in the kingdom? Not sure what that means. If you're born again, the kingdom is always within you. You can quench the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit will never leave you.



You're not understanding that the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven are the same thing. They exist within two different realms, spiritually and physically. How can Jesus sit if he's not in a place. Where is he sitting, on thin air?? Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.

I don't know how to make it clear. Kingdom is not a place, it's a Greek female noun, so it can't be a place. Heaven is a place.

Kingdom of Heaven is the Rule in a place (Heaven)
Kingdom of God is to Rule with God (Not a place)

Earth is the only place the body enforces the will of God as it is in Heaven through the rule of God (Kingdom of God)

The Heavens belong to the Lord, He is in complete control of Heaven. We get to Reign with him.

Inheriting the Kingdom has nothing to do with a place, I did not translate the Word basila Kingdom, it's not my fault, the translators did. It's not a place, it means to rule over.

I tried.
 
There is NO KINGDOM mentioned that we go to in any scripture...... ZERO. We don't even have a scripture for that.

Matthew 5:20 (KJV)
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 19:24 (KJV)
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 10:15 (KJV)
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
 
I agree with your statement here, but the believer simply loses rewards in heaven, not his salvation. And I agree, works without faith is dead.



Correct.



But he vindicates himself by adding verse 11.."BUT you were washed, sanctified...

The sins in verse 9-10 are about the unsaved.

When we read the verses posted we would all benefit in takeing a closer look and then thequestion can be answered properly and correctly.

"The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God". Clear, easy to read and understand.

It means then as it still does in churches all over the land. It seems that in Paul's day as it is today there are some in the church assembly who profess to be Christians as a system of doctrine but not as a rule of life. In other words......there actions do not match their words. They say one thing and do another. Paul is warning that this kind of deception is one serious fatal mistake.
NO ONE who can allow himself the indulgence of KNOWN sin in his life can be saved.

This passage by Paul confirms that he and James are in agreement and both confirm that genuine faith produces good works ad the absence of good works tells everyone the lack of faith in that person.

So then, IF the ones who claimed to be believers did not know that these who were guilty of the sins named by Paul, shall not enter into the kingdom of God, it was due to their willing ignorance of those sins.

Now the question must b WHY?.......Because there is NO middle ground. We are either saved or lost. We are believers or non-believers., sons of God or sons of Satan, righteous or un-righteous, holy or un-holy but no one is neutral and safe to think they can stand on middle ground and sway back and forth between the two.
 
I don't know how to make it clear. Kingdom is not a place, it's a Greek female noun, so it can't be a place. Heaven is a place.

Kingdom of Heaven is the Rule in a place (Heaven)
Kingdom of God is to Rule with God (Not a place)

Earth is the only place the body enforces the will of God as it is in Heaven through the rule of God (Kingdom of God)

The Heavens belong to the Lord, He is in complete control of Heaven. We get to Reign with him.

Inheriting the Kingdom has nothing to do with a place, I did not translate the Word basila Kingdom, it's not my fault, the translators did. It's not a place, it means to rule over.

I tried.

They are the same thing. Read post 54. Thank you Abdicate for scripture.
 
Matthew 5:20 (KJV)
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Mark 10:15 (KJV)
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.



Kingdom in the Greek is not a place. It can't be a place, it's a Female Greek noun. We "ENTER" in the Rule with God. It's inside us, for those who obey and seek it.

I can't help the way Basila was translated, how hard is it to look up a simple word?

Greek Female nouns can't define a place............ PERIOD!!!

Mar 10:15 YLT verily I say to you, whoever may not receive the reign of God, as a child--he may not enter into it;'

Original: βασιλεία Kingdom

Transliteration: basileia

Phonetic: bas-il-i'-ah

Thayer Definition:

royal power, kingship, dominion, rule
not to be confused with an actual kingdom but rather the right or authority to rule over a kingdom
of the royal power of Jesus as the triumphant Messiah
of the royal power and dignity conferred on Christians in the Messiah's kingdom
a kingdom, the territory subject to the rule of a king
used in the N.T. to refer to the reign of the Messiah
Origin: from G935

TDNT entry: 10:40,0

Part(s) of speech: Noun Feminine

They are the same thing. Read post 54. Thank you Abdicate for scripture.

They are NOT the same thing, Read the definiton above. Kingdom is not a place we go to.............. Greek Female nouns can't define a place at all, it's not even possible in the language.

I stand by my statement. There is no scripture in the NT that denotes we go to any Kingdom. You can't go to a place that is not there. You can enter in the Rule and power of God that abides in us, or you can disobey God and not partake (inherit) the power of God in your life.
 
If the kingdom is not a place then why the dimensions and walls and glass..

The New Jerusalem, the Bride of the Lamb

9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadiac in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17The angel measured the wall using human measurement, and it was 144 cubitsd thick.e 18The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20the fifth onyx, the sixth ruby, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth turquoise, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.f 21The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of gold, as pure as transparent glass.

22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it. 27Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
 
Question: "What is the difference between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven?"

Answer: While some believe that the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to different things, it is clear that both phrases are referring to the same thing. The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs only 32 times, and only in the Gospel of Matthew. Based on Matthew’s exclusive use of the phrase and the Jewish nature of his Gospel, some interpreters have concluded that Matthew was writing concerning the millennial kingdom while the other New Testament authors were referring to the universal kingdom. However, a closer study of the use of the phrase reveals that this interpretation is in error.

For example, speaking to the rich young ruler, Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’” (Matthew 19:23). In the very next verse, Christ proclaims, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (verse 24). Jesus makes no distinction between the two terms but seems to consider them synonymous.

Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30 and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and/or Luke used “kingdom of God.” Clearly, the two phrases refer to the same thing.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html#ixzz3P7VwWqGv
 
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