The Millennium: (9) Life in the Millennium

Major no one contests the meaning of the word as mentioned by Dr J Vernon Magee we just contest how it is interpreted in scripture. Does it mean a literal thousand years I think I gave this example with Psalms 50:10 in post 8 I will add here again. God is not saying there is exactly only a thousand hills where his sheep and cattle dwell but more so he is expressing that all hills and cattle in the world belong to him. You find in many other passages also such as Deuteronomy 7: 9 here Moses writes that he is not merely limiting Gods to thousand generations but that his mercy is unlimited. View attachment 11883. Major I will also add Revelations 20: 1-3 Major when the Angel chains Satan to the bottomless pit for a thousand years is this to be taken literally. No for we know that Satan is still very active within our world . But he did lose something. He had lost his dominion over the other nations of the world. Before Christ came there was only Israel where Gods light did shine the rest of the world was shut off and under the authority of Satan. That all ended with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ conquering death and the death cult of Satan and also with the great commission of expanding the gospel of Jesus’Christ into the 4 corners of the world. With Satans declining power And Christ's unstoppable power has led to almost 2000 yrs of evangelism into Satan's strongholds throughout the world . So again we must realise that in this passage of scripture concerning the thousand yrs mentioned is not literal but more figurative and pointing to a period of time much longer than the thousand years mentioned here . View attachment 11884
Yes, I agree that the 1000 years is to denote a long period of time. But, I disagree that before Christ there was only Israel because Jacob didn't become Israel until Genesis 32 and his descendants known as such thereafter. What about all those before?

And the rest of the world wasn't shut off; the one true God was available to everyone who believed. Ruth and Rahab are an example of 2 people from outside of Israel that entered into God's light.
 
Hi Major,

Now my questions to you are -

1. Why are people dying in the millennium when you say the Lord is physically there? (Isa. 65: 20)

2. Why is there a king and priests there when you say the Lord who is a kingpriest is physically there? (Ez. 37: 24. Isa. 66: 21)

3. And why does Israel have sacrifices when you say that the Lord is physically there? (Ez. 44: 15, 29 & 30, 46: 12 - 15)

4. And why is there a temple there when you say that the Lord is physically there? (Ez. 44)
Good questions.
 
Bob you know me well enough just me being me I guess I be curious by nature I like to unzip and feel out the many interpretations and equations as with Majors and Marilyn’s many posts on the subject. I guess when it comes to the book of Revelation it be where the worlds of literalism, symbolism and typography collide for many. When it comes to the millennial kingdom of a thousand years. Is it talking about a literal thousand years or is it more figurative expressing a long period of time as in the book of Psalms where our Heavenly Father states that ( he owns all the cattle upon a thousand hills ) which one could take to mean all the cattle upon every hill in the world. I simply continue to read and evaluate the many interpretations on the subject. Bob me do wish you , Major and Marilyn the happiness lthat this time of the year does afford you all in whatever way you all choose to enjoy . God bless Prim
Hi Prim,

Had you thought of this point - `Jesus is the Lamb of God.` Does that mean that every mention of a lamb is Christ? Meaning does every mention of a thousand years have to be figurative.

Also, in the Psalms - `The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. ` (Ps. 12: 6)

God word is proven true throughout the length of time on earth, (& beyond). Seven is God`s numeral meaning complete, sacred. Thus, I believe God has appointed this universe (& earth) seven thousand years and then all that God has spoken is proven true.

Something to think about.
 
Bob you know me well enough just me being me I guess I be curious by nature I like to unzip and feel out the many interpretations and equations as with Majors and Marilyn’s many posts on the subject. I guess when it comes to the book of Revelation it be where the worlds of literalism, symbolism and typography collide for many. When it comes to the millennial kingdom of a thousand years. Is it talking about a literal thousand years or is it more figurative expressing a long period of time as in the book of Psalms where our Heavenly Father states that ( he owns all the cattle upon a thousand hills ) which one could take to mean all the cattle upon every hill in the world. I simply continue to read and evaluate the many interpretations on the subject. Bob me do wish you , Major and Marilyn the happiness lthat this time of the year does afford you all in whatever way you all choose to enjoy . God bless Prim
Hi Prim, Had you thought of this point - `Jesus is the Lamb of God.` Does that mean that every mention of a lamb is Christ? Meaning does every mention of a thousand years have to be figurative. Also, in the Psalms - `The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. ` (Ps. 12: 6) God word is proven true throughout the length of time on earth, (& beyond). Seven is God`s numeral meaning complete, sacred. Thus, I believe God has appointed this universe (& earth) seven thousand years and then all that God has spoken is proven true. Something to think about.

Good morning, Prim90 and Marilyn;

Doctrinal Discussion is so vital in our personal growth as disciples. As a member/reader of Christian Forum Site I'm not going to agree with every single post but it gives me the opportunity to take a step back and prayerfully think about what each poster is conveying.

Is there something new I'm learning from God? Am I referring to Scripture to verify information or is it erroneous? I'll confess the last one regarding my input of the Bible. But that's ok for all of us. Correction, learning and gaining is a humble blessing and the other poster could very well be doing that.


Prim90 makes a good point, we have to be ourselves as a disciple of Christ when discussing and interpreting the context, literal, (the then times versus the here and now times,) it all ties in to God's Word.

Question is, are we bonding as believers when sharing the Word? Personally, I believe we are.


Doctrinal Discussion is vital for our spiritual growth. Thank you, Marilyn and Major for your contributions in our discussions.

May God bless
everyone and Merry Christmas.

Bob


 
Yes, I agree that the 1000 years is to denote a long period of time. But, I disagree that before Christ there was only Israel because Jacob didn't become Israel until Genesis 32 and his descendants known as such thereafter. What about all those before?

And the rest of the world wasn't shut off; the one true God was available to everyone who believed. Ruth and Rahab are an example of 2 people from outside of Israel that entered into God's light.
Cocoa upon closer scrutiny we do find that both Ruth and Rahab were either under the spiritual influence of Israel by God because both were in the geographical sphere of ancient Israel or a hop skip and jump from its boarder when they committed their lives to the God. Rahab the prostitute lived in what would become Israel at the time of the jewish conquest of the land. The city of Jericho of where she did comfort Joshua’s spies for a number of days and than give her elegance to their God IMG_9911.jpeg. As to Ruth she lived in the kingdom of Moab bordering Ancient Israel upon where much hardship had fallen with the loss of many husbands. Where her mother in law Naomi also lived. Naomi decides to return to Judah she decides to release her daughters in law back to their own culture. Ruth refuses in reply . Saying wither thou goest me goest too. Your people be my people. Your God be my God. And so Ruth returns to Judah with Naomi. A interesting note to think upon is that Rahab was the mother of Boaz who later married Ruth. Both who play a role in the genealogy of Jesus IMG_9909.png You than ask what about Jacob who didn’t become Israel until Genesis chapter 32. What of the generations before that you ask . I would say to that. But what of the promises given by God to Abraham such as the Abrahamic covenant given long before Jacob was named Israel and long before Israel becoming a actual kingdom and long before the Sinaitic covenant. Cocoa Seems to me that the Israel of God was forever on Gods mind long before it became a reality as seen way back in the Abrahamic covenant of Genesis chapter 12 & 13 IMG_9899.jpegIMG_9900.jpegIMG_9902.jpeg. Wishing you all the happy seasons festivities that now await. Cocoa may God continue to Bless you. Yours Prim
 
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Hi Prim,

Had you thought of this point - `Jesus is the Lamb of God.` Does that mean that every mention of a lamb is Christ? Meaning does every mention of a thousand years have to be figurative.

Also, in the Psalms - `The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. ` (Ps. 12: 6)

God word is proven true throughout the length of time on earth, (& beyond). Seven is God`s numeral meaning complete, sacred. Thus, I believe God has appointed this universe (& earth) seven thousand years and then all that God has spoken is proven true.

Something to think about.
Marilyn yes me does think upon that too. Sometimes the lamb can be a Divine title such as ( behold the lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world ) But often it is used symbolically and sometimes in a literal type sense also . Such As in Exodus 12:29-30 when comparing it with 1st Corinthians 5: 7 with Christ being our pass over lamb in overcoming the venom of death and sin. So you say does every meaning have to be figurative when it comes to a thousand years. I’ve given you my thoughts on that you obviously disagree. That ok you have that right IMG_4094.jpeg. As to numerology in the Bible. It certainly be there to some degree. Ok you say 7 be the number of completion including the 7000 yrs to me it’s mere hearsay : ) Many have waddled off into Jewish mysticism upon seeking out the many methods of numerology. It’s not really my cup of tea. Marilyn Wishing you blessed happy festivities ahead . 🌸 yours Prim
 
Marilyn yes me does think upon that too. Sometimes the lamb can be a Divine title such as ( behold the lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world ) But often it is used symbolically and sometimes in a literal type sense also . Such As in Exodus 12:29-30 when comparing it with 1st Corinthians 5: 7 with Christ being our pass over lamb in overcoming the venom of death and sin. So you say does every meaning have to be figurative when it comes to a thousand years. I’ve given you my thoughts on that you obviously disagree. That ok you have that right View attachment 11950. As to numerology in the Bible. It certainly be there to some degree. Ok you say 7 be the number of completion including the 7000 yrs to me it’s mere hearsay : ) Many have waddled off into Jewish mysticism upon seeking out the many methods of numerology. It’s not really my cup of tea. Marilyn Wishing you blessed happy festivities ahead . 🌸 yours Prim
Hi Prim,

Thank you for your answer. Now I certainly don`t want to go `waddling` off into that maze. (ha, ha)

all the best and joy and peace for this season. Marilyn.
 
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