The Nature of Sin and Hatred (Post Location Changed)

justanothersinner said:
Letter from Hell
Hi guys. this is my first letter from here.
Turns out I got eternal life and imprisonment in Hell on judgement Day. God was going to overlook some of my sins because he said my sense of humour was at least original if a little eccentric. But in the end, those sins I never repented properly, stuck with me. And here I am.
Air con doesn't work here and man, is it hot! Id say 50 degrees centrigrade but I think they use a different scale here. People here are really annoying but I suspect they might say the same thing about me. Whoever made that saying "Hell is other people" is right on the money. There is one guy here who keeps brushing his teeth at midnight. I can hear him easily cause I live next door. Walls here are quite thin but made of unflammable stuff naturally. The place I live in is like a disco inferno without the disco.
How's Heaven? Well imagine that is where you would be. You always were better at loving others than I was. I bet you have ice cream. That is what I really miss. Funny how you miss the little things. Only hot food here. I liked it at first but by the third day, I was hanging out for something cold. Id give my right little finger for a frozen strawberry yoghurt!!
But Im toughening up gradually. My goal here is to find a nice person to talk to. haven't found one yet. They are all so grumpy and complaining how God was too mean to them. I feel the same but I have this tiny glimmer of hope. that God will change his mind and cancel the "eternal hell and damnation" part.
Hope my letter wasn't too sad....look forward to hearing from you....
JAS (Just Another Sinner)
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HELLo there :)

Well, in my own thinking, in my own judgment…

Judgment? Can MAN judge?

Sure of course, with thousands of years of man’s existence being with each other: old laws of ancient world, Philosophies of the WEST, Plato, Aristotle, etc. middle ages, of study of ETHICS, St. Thomas Aquinas and modern Philosophers and ancient WISDOM of the Eastern Philosophies: Gandhi, Buddha and of course Confucius,

and at the same time Political: How to Govern people: Biblical : Moses, Judges, Kings
Emperors, Kings, Dictators, then rise of Democracy: People can vote their Leader, the industrial revolution: Capitalism: rise of Communism, then back to Democracy again…
SURE, Man can Judge. Man can lead
Is it a good judgement or a good lead is beside the point.. the point is Man can Judge, Man can lead

Getting back on the first few line: in my own thinking: in my own JUDGEMENT:

I should not be here in HEAVEN.

But God says so, it is CLEARLY said so, written in good old Book. The Bible.

How can I dispute that? He said so.

So I believe in Jesus Christ’s Salvation

Then after I believe: my eyes was opened why was that big statue in Rio, Brazil was name Christ the Redeemer in the first place: Redeemer, redeemer for what?

Now I know, I believe.

What to do next?

In my own judgment, in my own thinking: can i do the Christian walk?

Christ before Salvation, and Christ after Salvation.

Christ is the Author, the Finisher, the Perfecter, the Sustainer of our Faith.

Just another sinner as well in my own judgement...

I cannot even judge myself anymore... only God can Judge... and if God is with us, who can be against us.
 
Romans 8:31-39 New Living Translation (NLT)

Nothing Can Separate Us from God’s Love
31 What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32 Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34 Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”[a]) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
I would probably like to start separate threads for some of my ideas.
have you read St John of the Cross, Dark Night of the Soul? Im reading a transaltion by Mirabili Starr. It is above average. But you only need to read one chapter a day. it is so dense with meaning.
 
aha said:
One of my favorite topic: FORGIVENESS :)

It is more than a challenge, it is a command.
And as usual of God’s command: it is the most reasonable thing to do and self-improving thing to do.
MORE SO,,, it is EVEN a PREREQUISITE

MT 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
MT 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
MT 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Medicine/Science is catching up: Forgiveness is good for the health.
Holding a grudge: "may not weigh only on your mind but also upon your physical person"
Letting it go: not it only it goes lighter, one can do more, productive things.
“Our research shows that forgivers perceive a less daunting world, and perform better on challenging physical tasks.”


https://www.medicaldaily.com/how-fo...wrongdoers-can-expand-physical-fitness-316902
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I prefer challenges to commands. ☺
 
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I was a very conservative teenager. Even though in my mind I espoused a socialist world view. Workers rights! Pay me an unemployment allowance if I cant find the perfect job! I cringe thinking about who I was then. By conservative I mean I was afraid to take risks. Afraid to ask girls out on a date. The thought of going into business never entered my head. My father worked on the railways and got me a job as an office worker/typist/telephonist. I hated it and envied my friends who went to college. I looked at a college brochure photo of students sitting on the lawn. Chatting to girls on the lawn who had beautiful knitted sweaters! I was hooked. get me out of here! I want to go to college and study the opposite sex!
I studied elementary school teaching because my high school score was too low to study say psychology or English Literature. I had an illusion about teaching kids too. Teach in a countryside school with obedient, enthusiastic kids. I get them doing all these interesting things. At the time I was short on the detail of what those things might be. Also at College (1976), education theory was changing and becoming bold and democratic. let the kids do what they are interested in! You don't need authority in classroom. get them in groups!
Education was veering away from the Behaviourism model. Trouble is I was idealistic and loose already by nature. I thought "this is great. I can just roll up in the classroom and chill with the kids". When I actually started teaching 4 years later, I faced a severe shock. Idealism doesn't work! Well that was my experience. Actually you do need structure. you do need authority. Kids need templates. you cant just expect them to be creative in writing for example. I really needed serious mentoring at that age. I sometimes ask myself now. "where was God then?" In fairness though he was probably there. just I wasn't seeking his help nor acknowledging his existence. I needed help in my social life too. Girls/women were on pedestals and I put them in the "too hard basket."
 
justanothersinner said:
I would probably like to start separate threads for some of my ideas.
have you read St John of the Cross, Dark Night of the Soul? Im reading a transaltion by Mirabili Starr. It is above average. But you only need to read one chapter a day. it is so dense with meaning.
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I heard about that book before, am interested when I first heard about it but kinda “scared a bit” on the “title” English is my second language, there maybe more appropriate word than “scared” :)

I hope to read it when am more matured as a Christian: that is, I hope to read it as an observer that is trying to relate, rather than experiencing it.... I google a bit on the book: it is a journey towards God, a purification, “spiritual dryness” that can lead to greater love of God. (Wikipedia)
 
justanothersinner said:
In Buddhism there are realms of Hell. I guess the lowest is when we act on hatred. We stop taking responsibility for our behaviour. We say anything spiteful or mean or even become violent. I haven't got there yet in case you are wondering. :)
I wonder for you people versed well in the Bible, are there realms of Hell mentioned there?
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There are no different realms of hell. There are however levels of punishment people receive when they are there. It means not everyone will be abused to the same degrees.
 
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