Contrary to WOKE nonsense, there are some really good cops out there.
They too can be used of God to do what's right.
They too can be used of God to do what's right.
There Are Good Cops Out There
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There are good cops and bad cops.
Bad cops ruin it for the good cops I think. It's a tough job.
It's well known that NSW cops in Australia are pretty corrupt. In NZ if they are understaffed or have a bad culture its going to affect people's lives and safety so even one bad apple can ruin a bunch.
Bad cops ruin it for the good cops I think. It's a tough job.
It's well known that NSW cops in Australia are pretty corrupt. In NZ if they are understaffed or have a bad culture its going to affect people's lives and safety so even one bad apple can ruin a bunch.
I suppose a cops job is only to arrest people for trial and I’m sure some cops gets frustrated when they see weak justice for repeat or violent criminals. I know I would.
We had a story in the paper the other day about a report saying thousands of cops are corrupt and are criminals.. aren’t we all to some extent?well yes, satan would agree it’s a great place to put the more ambitious members of society for their own gain, but you know, in my job I also get sick of one sidedness and rarely see abuse and when the papers only focus on the cops that loose control( don’t we all?) and end up making a mistake on the job then we know it is an imbalanced story.
Hmm, let’s see, maybe we ought to end a tabloid story with
“Over worked staff and boring meaningless repetitive office work and social justice bureaucracy, abuse from the public and red tape etc …it’s no wonder they’re frustrated.”
People may say, “yes but one cop murdered and raped an innocent woman”
Yes that happened here in the U.K..
I’m So sorry that happened and agree they need monitoring like the rest of us but we don’t throw the whole apple tree away with a few bad apples do we?
I loved the movie terminator and
Gods got this.
Just think of Heaven folks…it’s not far off
We had a story in the paper the other day about a report saying thousands of cops are corrupt and are criminals.. aren’t we all to some extent?well yes, satan would agree it’s a great place to put the more ambitious members of society for their own gain, but you know, in my job I also get sick of one sidedness and rarely see abuse and when the papers only focus on the cops that loose control( don’t we all?) and end up making a mistake on the job then we know it is an imbalanced story.
Hmm, let’s see, maybe we ought to end a tabloid story with
“Over worked staff and boring meaningless repetitive office work and social justice bureaucracy, abuse from the public and red tape etc …it’s no wonder they’re frustrated.”
People may say, “yes but one cop murdered and raped an innocent woman”
Yes that happened here in the U.K..
I’m So sorry that happened and agree they need monitoring like the rest of us but we don’t throw the whole apple tree away with a few bad apples do we?
I loved the movie terminator and
Gods got this.
Just think of Heaven folks…it’s not far off
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I know l dont have the temperament to be a cop. Jailors have it easier because they have the keys. Once they see what they dont get to do after acting up they tend to behave themselves. At least most did.I suppose a cops job is only to arrest people for trial and I’m sure some cops gets frustrated when they see weak justice for repeat or violent criminals. I know I would.
We had a story in the paper the other day about a report saying thousands of cops are corrupt and are criminals.. aren’t we all to some extent?well yes, satan would agree it’s a great place to put the more ambitious members of society for their own gain, but you know, in my job I also get sick of one sidedness and rarely see abuse and when the papers only focus on the cops that loose control( don’t we all?) and end up making a mistake on the job then we know it is an imbalanced story.
Hmm, let’s see, maybe we ought to end a tabloid story with
“Over worked staff and boring meaningless repetitive office work and social justice bureaucracy, abuse from the public and red tape etc …it’s no wonder they’re frustrated.”
People may say, “yes but one cop murdered and raped an innocent woman”
Yes that happened here in the U.K..
I’m So sorry that happened and agree they need monitoring like the rest of us but we don’t throw the whole apple tree away with a few bad apples do we?
I loved the movie terminator and
Gods got this.
Just think of Heaven folks…it’s not far off
I dont know what we need to do their job, but out of curiosity, What sort of temperament does one need to be a cop.?
I actually read on a police forum once that the reasons for joining are varied.
but now I read the next best thing I see is "let's replace politicians with randomly selected people"
vigilante groups are also taking over the police force and im not sure I agree with this because they are out for blood some of them.
Many of them go into the forces with the idea of "making a difference," and "putting the bad guy away." The problem is that they are trained to see ALL of us as a potential threats and law breakers, which is somewhat justified in this climate of increasing violence, much of which our leftist politicians encourage and justify.
Unfortunately, many cops end up being just another punk behind a badge who routinely lives at the level of the ego and power tripping tyrant that badge tends to appeal to in the fallen nature of man. They are ALL trained to acquire ID of any and all civilians they come into contact with, even though there is no law that requires civilians to identify when there is no primary charge for a crime, even in states with "Stop-n-ID" laws.
They are trained to be just like the German, Third Reich Gestapo, "Your papers!" Many cops don't understand that they cannot arrest someone against whom they have no reasonable and articulable crime the cop reasonably suspects the person has, is or is about to commit.
I've seen quite a few traffic stop videos where there were one or more passengers, and the traffic cop demanded ID of everyone in the vehicle. The Appellate and Supreme courts has already ruled that there is no law compelling passengers of a stopped vehicle to hand over ID nor to give their names and birth dates when there is no reasonable suspicion for them having committed a crime, or are about to commit a crime. Cops will even demand everyone exist the vehicle and cuff them for "officer safety" when ID is refused...as if ID somehow guarantees officer safety, which it doesn't. The latter is nothing but bullying through inconvenience.
Some have told me, "Well, if you've got nothing to hide, then what's the problem with identifying?" Frankly, every time people are run through the law enforcement Fusion Center databases, they can end up finding themselves on a no-fly list for no good reason whatsoever. When we don't stand up for our rights, then we lose them. It's really just that simple. A nation of sheeple who cow-tow to the unlawful demands from cops only encourages more laws that take advantage of those weaknesses and lack of standing up against tyranny.
Many cities have doled out hundreds and even millions in court cases against them because of bad cops who violate Constitutional rights as a matter of ungoverned routine. Strangely, most of those cops don't lose their jobs for such violations since they have "Qualified Immunity" granted to them by corrupt courts and legislation. That does nothing but encourage them to violate people's rights on an almost daily basis. For those who don't want to stand up for their rights, they can move to someplace like Indonesia or one of the other many Muslim countries where rights are totally subject to the whims of the religious whackos that run those countries and carry guns as their enforcement. For those who don't like guns, they can move to New Zealand, where they are not armed at all, or Britain, or even Eastern Europe.
However, yes, there are some really good ones, and they are worthy of our support and admiration.
Do not construe any of what I said as being legal advice. Talk with your lawyer about all that.
MM
There was an old internet saw that went, … “the first one to mention nazis loses.” You lost me here.
My experience with police has been primarily positive and if anything, they have gone out of their way to be not only civil, but kind as well.
In the final analysis the police are people just like grocery clerks and dentists and they reflect the greater society as a whole. In my opinion those who don’t like the police are often those who don’t like society in general.
My father- in-law was first a policeman and then latter a fireman. He was a generous, helpful and kindhearted person. That’s not to say he put up with nonsense, he didn’t, but he was prepared to meet everyone at their level and that is how most policemen operate. They need to quickly size up people and situations and deal with them. People are given the opportunity to be part of the problem or part of the solution.
This are my opinions and experiences and I don’t mean to offend, but as a business owner I relied on the police and don’t like the attacks coming from either the left or right.
In NZ they are there to provide safety and help but there needs to be enough of them where and when they are needed. They are funded by the govt and need to take their job seriously, people's lives are at stake.
I had a flatmate who worked as secretary for the police. One of my neighbours was a traffic cop. One of my pastors was a former cop.
I do know there is christian fellowship groups you can join if you are a Christian and also a cop. There's also special Bibles for them. They need as much prayer as anyone. They locate missing people, they advocate for justice, they are the people you are meant to turn to when things go wrong. Their jobs are dangerous and they need to make righteous judgment in crises.
Who wants to deal with drunkards and thieves and now terrorists? It's often cops on the frontline.
I know many people who's lives had been taken because of cops failure to respond in a timely manner. Many women also cannot rely on the police for their safety as they are not always predisposed to believe what a woman says even when she is screaming for help. Although a lot of cops now are women.
But you need to pass strict exams and physical to be a cop.
I had a flatmate who worked as secretary for the police. One of my neighbours was a traffic cop. One of my pastors was a former cop.
I do know there is christian fellowship groups you can join if you are a Christian and also a cop. There's also special Bibles for them. They need as much prayer as anyone. They locate missing people, they advocate for justice, they are the people you are meant to turn to when things go wrong. Their jobs are dangerous and they need to make righteous judgment in crises.
Who wants to deal with drunkards and thieves and now terrorists? It's often cops on the frontline.
I know many people who's lives had been taken because of cops failure to respond in a timely manner. Many women also cannot rely on the police for their safety as they are not always predisposed to believe what a woman says even when she is screaming for help. Although a lot of cops now are women.
But you need to pass strict exams and physical to be a cop.
The govt sometimes uses the police force to do questionable things to keep what they think are their law and order. eg Dawn Raids. But the way they went about that was horrific and wasteful and also extremely racist.
The other thing is its easy to catch an obvious criminal that's maybe drunk or robbing someone but its the serious fraud, paedophiles, and white collar criminals that seem to get away with everything.
The other thing is its easy to catch an obvious criminal that's maybe drunk or robbing someone but its the serious fraud, paedophiles, and white collar criminals that seem to get away with everything.
You all make good points. I will try and address each one in turn as it’s an interesting subject for sure.
Just out of curiosity, Who remembers this?
I really think the Indians were spot in with the humour here.
Could we try to win each other over with humour ?
Just out of curiosity, Who remembers this?
I really think the Indians were spot in with the humour here.
Could we try to win each other over with humour ?
Wow, That sounds incredible.
How does this happen?
Why is that the case?
Because they find something that throws up a red flag. Previous arrest, ties to certain groups etc. Some actually do have things they wish to hide.
In a world with an ever-increasing population in leadership wanting more and more control over the populations, and who see us all as in need of being controlled, with THEM in control, of course, pomposity and tyrannical arrogance have no bounds.
It's human nature sparked by the influences from the enemies of our souls.
MM
Every collar (what they call an arrest) they get brings them more and more brownie points in their record, just like speeding tickets. Every month, many agencies require that their enforcers write a minimum number of traffic citations, and they will get them all, and more, even against those who did no real wrong. Not all are like that, but some are.
Now, the truth be told, ID doesn't prove anything as to if a crime was legitimately committed by anyone. They have said to many people, "We got a call through 911, and so we need to perform our investigation, and so we need your ID as a part of our investigation...right now." The Supreme Court has ruled that citizens do not have to assist in any investigation unless they are named as a witness.
Again, not offering legal advice. Just sharing results of my own studies.
MM
I would be interested to know where you get your information. Sounds a lot like what you would read on a defund the police website.
Yeah, I can understand that thinking, but not only have I watched many, many First Amendment Audit videos on Youtube, but I also have a number of law enforcement friends who have told me the kinds of things modern police academies are training officers how to think and deal with the public. The two first things they are taught is safety, being ready for the unexpected at all times, and get identification to check for warrants.
I'm pro cop, not anti, but I also understand some bad training concepts when I see them as well. What's worse is that courts allow cops to lie through their teeth to the public, but the public dare not lie to them. There was a time that cops were required to be honest with the public; back when they cared about public trust. Things have changed drastically. You can watch video after video on Youtube where cops will lie as a means of intimidating people to give up their ID, with threats of arrest. Most of the videos show the cops walking away without having gotten ID because most of them know that "failure to identify" is only a secondary charge if, and ONLY if there is a primary charge arising from a reasonable suspicion for a crime. They lie and lie and lie in those videos to try and get the compliance from free citizens that they want.
There's a video of a man in Mississippi being arrested on his front porch for refusing to had over ID. The deputy clearly stated that there was pot being grown on another property a distance from his house...not even on his property, but rather a neighbor two properties away. That was dead wrong, and the man sued that county and won some serious cash for false arrest. He had to push for a federal suit because the Sherriff and the county attorney both refused to do the honest thing and admit the truth of the matter. Instead, they lied, which only made them look worse in that community for their dishonesty and covering for each other in the face of gross injustice.
So, if you want links to some videos showing all that I have said, I will provide them to you through personal messaging of you wish.
So, knowing the law helps us all in identifying the cops that are lying vermin not worthy of their badges, and those who are honest and worthwhile. The courts and legislators have taken away our reasons for trusting them all. Many good cops are disheartened by the criminals they risk their lives to apprehend are just let go by the courts. Very sad indeed.
MM
Seems like being in between a rock and a hard place.
And prosecuting them because of rights violations, wouldn’t that increase taxes because of lack of funding?
I suppose the best thing in this situation for me would be to befriend as many cops as I can. Get their perspective on things. Get to figure out what’s wrong in their jobs and work on that.
And prosecuting them because of rights violations, wouldn’t that increase taxes because of lack of funding?
I suppose the best thing in this situation for me would be to befriend as many cops as I can. Get their perspective on things. Get to figure out what’s wrong in their jobs and work on that.