There Are Good Cops Out There

Via dolarossa said:
Seems like being in between a rock and a hard place.
And prosecuting them because of rights violations, wouldn’t that increase taxes because of lack of funding?

I suppose the best thing in this situation for me would be to befriend as many cops as I can. Get their perspective on things. Get to figure out what’s wrong in their jobs and work on that.
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Maybe there is federal money (our tax dollars) that compensate cities for their losses in courts when they lose, and therefore feeding the machine....

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I don't put much of anything past the REAL enemy, who is invisible to our natural eyes.

MM
 
Yes there are good cops, but the bad cops get all of the media attention and makes it bad for the good ones. It's a tough job to do.

I couldn't be a cop and wouldn't want my husband to be one either. Too much danger, too much stress, and I think slowly their mind get affected from working with criminals all day long 40 hours a week. All they see is criminals day in and day out 40 hours a week. That would make anyone begin to think EVERYONE is up to no good. I think cops who are out on the street should do it in rotations. Like they can be out there no longer than 2 years then go to do desk work for 2 years then back on the street for 2 years. That gives their mind and psyche a rest from seeing the dirty side of humanity for a while. So they can detox.
 
Musicmaster said:
Every collar (what they call an arrest) they get brings them more and more brownie points in their record, just like speeding tickets. Every month, many agencies require that their enforcers write a minimum number of traffic citations, and they will get them all, and more, even against those who did no real wrong. Not all are like that, but some are.
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That's horrible. That's where the problem lies. There should be no incentive for number of arrests or number of tickets written.
 
I don't like being police but sometimes have to when its break or as US people call it 'recess' and there has to be a duty teacher on the playground. We have those flourescent vests and there is also children trained up to be peer mediators to break up fights.

Or children getting too high on sugar. It would be good if the teachers actually stopped selling sugary frozen drinks and giving them lollies. They can't seem to make a connection between the lollies they give them and violence.
 
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I don't put much of anything past the REAL enemy, who is invisible to our natural eyes.
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You make a great point.

We cannot see the enemy but we know hes there.
Someone with an evil agenda is my worst nightmare.
God will sort it. He has promised like He used the babylonians.

God bless bother.

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I suppose what I wanted to say was we shouldn't ignore the way that things are progressing or regressing in the world. satan only has a certain amount of time, I dont know if he knows, but thats the truth.

I know this may be off topic, but do you think he does?
 
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Musicmaster said:
Yeah, I can understand that thinking, but not only have I watched many, many First Amendment Audit videos on Youtube, but I also have a number of law enforcement friends who have told me the kinds of things modern police academies are training officers how to think and deal with the public. The two first things they are taught is safety, being ready for the unexpected at all times, and get identification to check for warrants.

I'm pro cop, not anti, but I also understand some bad training concepts when I see them as well. What's worse is that courts allow cops to lie through their teeth to the public, but the public dare not lie to them. There was a time that cops were required to be honest with the public; back when they cared about public trust. Things have changed drastically. You can watch video after video on Youtube where cops will lie as a means of intimidating people to give up their ID, with threats of arrest. Most of the videos show the cops walking away without having gotten ID because most of them know that "failure to identify" is only a secondary charge if, and ONLY if there is a primary charge arising from a reasonable suspicion for a crime. They lie and lie and lie in those videos to try and get the compliance from free citizens that they want.

There's a video of a man in Mississippi being arrested on his front porch for refusing to had over ID. The deputy clearly stated that there was pot being grown on another property a distance from his house...not even on his property, but rather a neighbor two properties away. That was dead wrong, and the man sued that county and won some serious cash for false arrest. He had to push for a federal suit because the Sherriff and the county attorney both refused to do the honest thing and admit the truth of the matter. Instead, they lied, which only made them look worse in that community for their dishonesty and covering for each other in the face of gross injustice.

So, if you want links to some videos showing all that I have said, I will provide them to you through personal messaging of you wish.

So, knowing the law helps us all in identifying the cops that are lying vermin not worthy of their badges, and those who are honest and worthwhile. The courts and legislators have taken away our reasons for trusting them all. Many good cops are disheartened by the criminals they risk their lives to apprehend are just let go by the courts. Very sad indeed.

MM
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yes people have lost confidence in the police force.
can it be repaired or is it worth just abolishing?
well I used to think of myself as a bit of a minacist when it comes to how a country should run and now it does look like its getting worse. at least you in the US have guns☹️
 
Via dolarossa said:
yes people have lost confidence in the police force.
can it be repaired or is it worth just abolishing?
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Seriously, this is over played by the press here in the U.S. in my opinion.
For example; here, in my area, the leading socialist member of the city council has been harassed for her “defund the police” rhetoric and is now ironically complaining publicly about the lag time in police response to her home and the lack of protection.

Without some form of police protection you are left with anarchy… the law of the jungle, survival of the strongest.

Who would what this… really, who would want this….
 
blueskies said:
Seriously, this is over played by the press here in the U.S. in my opinion.
For example; here, in my area, the leading socialist member of the city council has been harassed for her “defund the police” rhetoric and is now ironically complaining publicly about the lag time in police response to her home and the lack of protection.

Without some form of police protection you are left with anarchy… the law of the jungle, survival of the strongest.

Who would what this… really, who would want this….
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No I wouldn’t like to see the police or any military defunded. I suppose I’m just looking to those who are more clued up in the topic to see what the major issues are.

Sometimes it takes this old brain a few weeks to catch up so I hope I didn’t offend anyone.
 
well, I practiced a kind of apartheid at lunchtime and it seemed to work in my library. Every group has its different days and they each get a turn. It was less crowded and the fights I did break up where easily handled.

Yes I am the library police. ( a good cop)

A police is kind of like a moderator of a forum who has the power to banish you if you start acting up right?

It's just the same kind of thing in the world out there.
 
In the olden olden days what they did was have stocks where they put your legs and arms and head in them chained up all day and people could walk past, jeer at you and call you names and throw tomatoes at you.

It was only slightly better than crucifixtion, where they just nailed you to a cross and you hung their naked until you died. Or hanging.

Nowadays, it's either incarceration or exile. In some countries its labour camps or re-education. I think the jury is still out on what methods work, in my country they call it the Department of Corrections, like people have made mistakes and need a bit of twink or delete their wrongs and make it right. But it doesn't always work.
 
I think the jury is still out on what methods work,
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Well, I think the people who actually do get corrected, and realise the truth that their actions were wrong, wouldn't fight or try to rally support to change anything. And they wouldn't accept people meddling in their affairs. Wouldn't they just assimilate and start a new life in peace? of course, money talks and those kinds of people are usually poor, so I dont know.

I dread the day Christians will be forced into correction facilities by law. That will be me over the bridge. They can have the earth.

The bible mentions a seared conscience, so those who have one wouldn't change would they?
 
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Via dolarossa said:
Well, I think the people who actually do get corrected, and realise the truth that their actions were wrong, wouldn't fight or try to rally support to change anything. And they wouldn't accept people meddling in their affairs. Wouldn't they just assimilate and start a new life in peace? of course, money talks and those kinds of people are usually poor, so I dont know.

I dread the day Christians will be forced into correction facilities by law. That will be me over the bridge. They can have the earth.

The bible mentions a seared conscience, so those who have one wouldn't change would they?
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how do you know when a conscience has been seared?
It isn't just people with tattoos.
Besides, that's only on the outside.

As someone who is supposedly 'assimilated' whatever that is...it's actually not true. I know who I am on the inside even when people judge me on the outside.

When you love God and God loves you He changes you from the inside out.

Besides, Christians are salt and light, our actions DO change things for the better. Even though they may be small. Even when we have no money. Why do rich people think they can actually get away with anything? They think they can just bribe their way out of jail, but they'll be on the road to hell.

But Jesus said it was nigh impossible for them to enter the Kingdom of God like the camel through the eye of the needle.
 
Musicmaster said:
Now THERE'S a guy who knows gun safety....front row, far left, when hammer is resting on a live, chambered round, make sure the barrel ain't pointed at your own head, but rather the guy behind you.....

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MM
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Ha! Or pointed at your own foot!

Experienced cowboys, lawmen and miscreants alike knew to carry those early single action revolvers such as the Colt’s single action army model with the hammer over an empty chamber. This because the firing pin rests directly on the cartridge primmer and any blow to the hammer could result in a very bad day.
 
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blueskies said:
Ha! Or pointed at your own foot!

Experienced cowboys, lawmen and miscreants alike knew to carry those early single action revolvers such as the Colt’s single action army model with the hammer over an empty chamber. This because the firing pin rests directly on the cartridge primmer and any blow to the hammer could result in a very bad day.
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Or as John Wayne said.........."I'll shoot you where you stand"!
 
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