Oh, no. That's not what I was saying at all. I encourage everyone to not take my word for anything, but to rather study it all on their own. THAT is how we all take responsibility for what we choose to believe.
MM
What About the Unreached?
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Oh, no. That's not what I was saying at all. I encourage everyone to not take my word for anything, but to rather study it all on their own. THAT is how we all take responsibility for what we choose to believe.
MM
Very good question.
When we consider what the Lord sees in those who call upon His name, and that thief on the cross, we have to go deeper than the mere words.
1 Samueal 16:7 NASB20 But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God does not [see] as man sees, since man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
There are those who think that calling upon the name of the Lord, and thus giving only lip service, they are saved. No. The looks upon the heart and sees whether be sincerity, or if it's all just surface feelings. That thief on the cross had a heart change that the Lord could see, as is the case with all who call upon His name.
Isaiah 29:13 NASB20 Then the Lord said, "Because this people approaches [Me] with their words And honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me, And their reverence for Me consists of [the] commandment of men that is taught;
Hope that helps.
MM
Yep! Right!Sure thing:
There are a number of movements sweeping across the planet, and drawing in more and more unsuspecting Christians, all focused upon returning to the requirements of following the Mosaic Law. Not all of them couple the Mosaic Law with the Blood of Christ for salvation, but many are going to that extreme.
What they all fail to understand is that the Mosaic Law was ONLY for Israel, not Gentiles. One need only read Acts 15 and Galatians 1,2,3- to see that a return to the requirements of the Mosaic Law, which is also known as Torah-following, is literally falling from grace, as Paul stated to the Galatians.
So, when one asks what Law we are to follow, yes, the Mosaic Law is good for studying, but when people start making the adherence to the Mosaic Law a moral issue, that's when the trouble starts. More importantly are the things the Lord writes in the hearts of His people.
For an illustration of that very phenomenon, simply read Matthew 5, where six times Jesus stated what was written or said in the Mosaic Law, and those six times He said ,"...BUT IS SAY..." [CAPS are for emphasis only.] He was demonstrating the inferiority of the Mosaic Law to the Law of God, which He writes in our hearts. In one instance, He even REVERSED what the Mosaic Law stated, which is to hate one's enemies. So, Jesus said, "BUT I SAY..." we are to pray for our enemies, and we should love those who hate us.
So, the equation the many of the legalistic Torah-followers are living by is Jesus + Law. That simply doesn't work, and it cheapens the validity and the sufficiency of the Blood of Christ.
Hope that answers your questions. If not, ask away.
MM
Yes, He does indeed always have a plan. Even in the deepest, darkest jungles where no missionary has ever been, the Lord has always been working in the hearts of those lives who recognize His existence as is evidenced in nature, getting His truth to them in His own way that He knows will always work. He never fails us, although we fail Him routinely...
MM
We see an actual example of this in Acts 8:26-40.
I can’t remember ever reading a statement of the above mentioned from you either. It was my statement not yours. As to this born again experience you mention how do you interpret that ?
Interpretation of something such as being born again, it is one of those things that comes only from above. It is a new believer becoming a new creation inside.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, [this person is] a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
Galatians 6:15 For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
So, yes, even you women must be circumcised, which is a circumcision of the heart.
As you likely know, this is a conversion that has no outward signs, such as putting on makeup to cover blemishes and other imperfections in one's facial skin. Makeup is superficial. It goes no deeper than the surface of the skin.
Inside, those who are born again can sense the contrast between what they were before, and what they are now. For some, it's a profound change that forces tremendous emotional sensation of change, for others, it's less pronounced in their awareness.
Luke 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, [the same] loveth little.
I'm not a fan of that translation, because it doesn't express exactly my observation here, nor what the Greek word actually means in its usage here.
In Thayer's Greek Lexicon, the Greek word Ag-ap-ah-o translated as love, means:
"To love, to be full of good-will and exhibit the same: Luke 7:47"
So, someone who had murdered another or others, in this transformation, the Lord takes from them their hatred that drives so many to kill others. There are many testimonies out there of the radical change of transformation in their lives. Luke 7:47 above reveals to us that those who have much change that needed to take place in their lives would notice the greatest amount of that change, and those who were not so full of sinful outplay in their lives, they did not require as much change in transformation.
Does that help? It's simply a matter of becoming a new person inside. The verses above give insight as to the old things of our nature passing away. It is a deliverance from the overbearing rule of sin in our lives. Sin becomes more and more repulsive for us to repeat from what we had done in our past, and it helps to keep new sins from taking hold.
Now, also keep in mind that we ALL make choices on a daily basis in our lives. Some believers can and do "backslide," and thus allow patterns of sin to take hold, from which there is deliverance, but the person must call upon the Lord for that deliverance.
Been there, done that...
MM
Your explanation be a good one. Me look on it much the same. We look upon Michael Angelos painting with the finger of the God upon Adam with much delight. Enlightening Adam and bringing him into a relationship to God himself. And so it be with all that be touched by the Spirit of God becoming born again.
God hasn't forgotten anyone, though it's on us believers to carry His message where and when we can.
As He loved us while we were yet sinners, and all of creation actually does come under the rainbow covenant (Otherwise us humans would be living underwater) so He'll probably send a river to reach those hard to reach people. We all need water/rain right?
As He loved us while we were yet sinners, and all of creation actually does come under the rainbow covenant (Otherwise us humans would be living underwater) so He'll probably send a river to reach those hard to reach people. We all need water/rain right?
I know some will have to learn the hard way. Those that do not want to change. But it must be harder to hold on to old beliefs and practices than give them up and create new ones. I found it is much easier and better loose your religion once you get past the fear of loosing control.
Like those who dislike proselytism may be reached by other means.
Like those who dislike proselytism may be reached by other means.
all men at some point in time might have been convicted . but there are many blinded by the god of religion. mankind can at some point in time be overcome with a hardened hear and at some point and time. given over to a reprobate mind. while i do not know when that point comes .
i have a brother in the ministry once witnessed to a older man . he told him at one time he use go to the old tent revivals and the old brush harbor meetings. he stated he No longer heard God speak. he had rejected God one to many times. yes while we may be with out excuse there are those who still need to hear. a seed must be planted Hosea tells us to break up our fallow ground.
i do not feel the Gospel has reached the entire world yet . i also realize this will go unread lol to some eyes
Yet even in this wonderful example, what we are told in Romans 10:17 remains true, yes?
Hello Sister, what are some of the "other means" by which the lost are reached (other than witnessing/hearing)?
Thanks
God bless you both!!
~Papa Smurf
Well I suppose there is being locked up in a prison.Yet even in this wonderful example, what we are told in Romans 10:17 remains true, yes?
Hello Sister, what are some of the "other means" by which the lost are reached (other than witnessing/hearing)?
Thanks
God bless you both!!
~Papa Smurf
Or governments sanctioning their countries/ and pushing back at their behaviours.
War.
Law.
Learning by example. They see others and enjoy their freedom of their culture more than their own( usually the women are first out of a destructive culture because they see how their children will grow up)
Just some thoughts papa.
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Funny fact...........One of the 1st things that prisoners are given when incarcerated is a Bible. The Gideons do that as well as many churches.
Social media allows the Bible to go everywhere in the world!
Fact.........................There is more witnesses done in War than any other time! Approaching death does that!
Oh right.
Well, I did tell you I am not very good at understanding some of the things the bible and what they mean.
But now you mention it, yes that’s making sense what you say
Yes you have. Honesty is always the best policy! Trust me darlin when I say to you that there are many on Christian web site (Here too) that are playing make believe! They dont know either!Oh right.
Well, I did tell you I am not very good at understanding some of the things the bible and what they mean.
But now you mention it, yes that’s making sense what you say