:smiley40: God shed his very own blood and died on a tree to save us and this was because man ate of the forbidden and man has also lived and done the forbidden (SIN) man is born in sin and has no hope of dying to the sin nature he is born with except he accepts what JESUS DID ON THE CROSS :smiley40: why do you believe Jesus taught death of self to his disciples because the (self) in man is so selfish he would eat the ONE tree God said in the day you do you will die , then look God has to do all the work to save man and he did it on Calvary at the CROSS :smiley40: