when Mary poured anointing oil on Jesus, Judas complained she should have sold it and given the money to the poor. But it was her anointing oil to give, and Jesus didn't need money, and the poor didn't need money at that point either. The poor need healing and food, not money. If their bills and taxes are forgiven and they aren't being scammed, most people can get by on not much money.
Why is Forgiveness Difficult?
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If a rich person has two coats, Jesus said they should give one to someone who has none.
I don't see a lot of clothes swapping at church to be honest. I see a lot of people taking up offerings of money though, that you can't wear, and that does not even get spent on new/warm clothes for the poor.
I don't see a lot of clothes swapping at church to be honest. I see a lot of people taking up offerings of money though, that you can't wear, and that does not even get spent on new/warm clothes for the poor.
Thank God for the Salvation Army though,,,as I've bought a lot of good clothes from church op shops and given them heaps too. Not rags but ones you would wear. Most are only $1 or $2 not $30 like you would buy new. Many people can't afford that much, not when they need to pay bills and taxes and rent then there's not much left for food. And you can't ask for a pay rise because bosses are very stingy.
I want to give an example of someone who is very wealthy and it just shocked me of this news, this retired couple had gone on 35 cruises since they retired, the wife caught the virus on the ship, and she died, and now the husband and family want to sue the cruise ship for losing her. Like millions of dollars.
Well the cruise ships can't even operate now anyway, so how could they pay out what they are asking? And how wealthy must you be to afford 35 cruises?? I doubt the cruise crew knew much about the virus at first, just as the airlines didn't. Yes they were lax, but I don't know if they actually deliberately set out to spread the virus. If the cruiseline wants to offer a fund to pay for funerals costs of any of its passengers, maybe, but over and above that I don't know how people can sue each other over this.
Well the cruise ships can't even operate now anyway, so how could they pay out what they are asking? And how wealthy must you be to afford 35 cruises?? I doubt the cruise crew knew much about the virus at first, just as the airlines didn't. Yes they were lax, but I don't know if they actually deliberately set out to spread the virus. If the cruiseline wants to offer a fund to pay for funerals costs of any of its passengers, maybe, but over and above that I don't know how people can sue each other over this.
It doesn't say the poor man should judge the rich.
It more sounds more like you can't forgive someone else being rich while you have less.
There are self centered rich, just as thete are self centered poor, but there are also many who are greatly blessed by God who quietly put their blessing to work. God increases their wealth because they pass their wealth on to do His work.
Remember when Mary anointed the feet of Jesus? Remember that Judas complained that the costly oil wasn't used to help the poor?
Remember that the Lord rebuked Judas?
Don't be like Judas
there’s some really good comments on here about forgiveness. It’s interesting when we look at it further..
I find forgiveness a lot easier when It’s not intentional.
If for instance, I’ve gone the whole hog to look fabulous with my new hair do and jimmy Choos with the intention to impress my person of interest, and I’m ignored then I’m hurt.
But if I eventually find out it was because he had a major toothache I can brush it off . Then try again lol..
But deep down I’m still non the wiser. People are not mind readers,
See,
I need to ask rather than assume they know what I want
I find forgiveness a lot easier when It’s not intentional.
If for instance, I’ve gone the whole hog to look fabulous with my new hair do and jimmy Choos with the intention to impress my person of interest, and I’m ignored then I’m hurt.
But if I eventually find out it was because he had a major toothache I can brush it off . Then try again lol..
But deep down I’m still non the wiser. People are not mind readers,
See,
I need to ask rather than assume they know what I want
Hello Via;
Well, its 845am Friday morning here and when i first read your post the toothache part gave me a good laugh. lol!
But I get your point "when its not intentional." The second part is, just ask. Amen!
I don't know about anyone else, but I just cant turn on and off emotions with the flip of a switch.
It takes a while to heal deeper wounds than the scratches in life; some scars are quite ugly and horrific.
So from my perspective while I can say yes I am very forgiving, the pain of that infliction may remain for a while as a reminder.
It lingers like an ego defense mechanism in the background of my heart. Do I mean to be this way? No, because I am in the flesh.
I wish I could be more like Christ and bounce everything off. I have been accused of being aloof in my responses to forgiveness.
However the opposite is true. Its because I care so much I break things down into smaller bites so I can digest them.
Less is more, simple is basic, and life is too short to hold in all that pain. It does go away, as healing takes time.
Therefore I conclude forgiveness can be a process depending on the offense. We are human after all.
I do try to see the beauty in all things, and something good in all people. I don't have to like the things they do, but we are commanded to love everyone.
It takes a while to heal deeper wounds than the scratches in life; some scars are quite ugly and horrific.
So from my perspective while I can say yes I am very forgiving, the pain of that infliction may remain for a while as a reminder.
It lingers like an ego defense mechanism in the background of my heart. Do I mean to be this way? No, because I am in the flesh.
I wish I could be more like Christ and bounce everything off. I have been accused of being aloof in my responses to forgiveness.
However the opposite is true. Its because I care so much I break things down into smaller bites so I can digest them.
Less is more, simple is basic, and life is too short to hold in all that pain. It does go away, as healing takes time.
Therefore I conclude forgiveness can be a process depending on the offense. We are human after all.
I do try to see the beauty in all things, and something good in all people. I don't have to like the things they do, but we are commanded to love everyone.
exactly..he stole the money for himself.
this is why some people drink alcohol. To numb the pain. Or use some other drugs as medication.
However true healing comes from the Lord. We just need to ask him to heal us and be willing to place our lives in His hands and trust Him.
I was reading this book a true story about a young girl abandoned when she was 6 by her own mother..left to her dad, who was an alcoholic, and sent to special ed school and then farmed out to a series of foster homes. She had problems with anger and violence and even at one stage abucted another child...anyway point being, when you are a child things are going to hurt way more because you don't understand them.
And those wounds are going to hurt but you can't tell anyone why because it's your own parents the ones who are supposed to love you, and look after you. Many just numb themselves or blank out any trauma. It's a way of coping. It takes many years later, when the child is grown up, to be able to forgive their parents. But some things aren't forgivable, because, the parents haven't repented, continue to drink, abuse and harm their children through neglect, or go on to repeat the cycle with another partner.
And those wounds are going to hurt but you can't tell anyone why because it's your own parents the ones who are supposed to love you, and look after you. Many just numb themselves or blank out any trauma. It's a way of coping. It takes many years later, when the child is grown up, to be able to forgive their parents. But some things aren't forgivable, because, the parents haven't repented, continue to drink, abuse and harm their children through neglect, or go on to repeat the cycle with another partner.
It's not like many children call the police and dob in their own parents. The child then gets taken to a mental hospital if they do that. Or they get put into orphanages where they get abused even more.
I don't think many people really see the child abuse that happens all the time because it's behind closed doors.
I don't think many people really see the child abuse that happens all the time because it's behind closed doors.
The Lord led me to share deeply introspective thoughts from my heart on forgiveness, and why it is a difficult process at times.
Yet, I forgive even you for you deeply insulting, and insensitive comment to anyone whom has experience great life altering tribulations.
Love and peace to all.
Yet, I forgive even you for you deeply insulting, and insensitive comment to anyone whom has experience great life altering tribulations.
Love and peace to all.
Well, can I just say, if you think about the promise of heaven, we will live under God for ever, and have no need of faith or Hope, Love will remain, pure love untainted by human needs or our nature. Therefore Forgiveness is because we live in a fallen world, with fallen people, and fallen Christian brothers, who try as they might have not been perfected and still need Faith and Hope, for themselves and others. Is it easy no, I still carry scars and wounds, and see those I have wounded, its not a once for all act, it is a daily requirement, just like the Lords' Prayer says "today" forgive us our debts as we forgive those who sin against us. I guess for you guys you could live in the Wilds of Alaska, but I guess there may be a few people there who will irk you. The engineer when your electric goes out, the IT guy, when you have no broadband, the TV engineer, or the trapper who catches your favorite otter. No, there is no escape.
Lanolin, I agree, and this is the one area, we need to be careful. Also there are specialists who can recognise the difference between anger and trauma. God Bless you
Hey there, I dont know if you knew, but she was the only one who understand he would die, she anointed his body with oil used at funerals in Jewish Culture, yes it was used for other things, but this was one of its uses. Jesus knew her heart was tuned to God. And he loved her in the general sense that he loves us all, but also for this act. This was the only anointing he had, if you read the Gospel accounts of his death, Im not sure he was anointed. Correct me if Im wrong
yes she was the only one who understood what to do, the others were told, Jesus told them he was going to die, but they didn't really believe him. If she had not anointed Jesus, he wouldn't have been the Christ, which means 'the anointed one". Mary was the one who anointed Jesus.
I think what many people miss is they say well Judas said mary should have sold her perfume and given it to the poor, and just cos it was Judas saying that they then think 'that means we should never sell anything and give any money to the poor' but its not that. It's that Judas intention was to keep that money for himself. Judas was already rich! He was embezzling, which is financial fraud. Jesus could see that.