Hmmm... Now without wanting to split hairs, I actually think our Lord could have been literal here. I mean, this was spoken directly on the heals of manifesting Himself on the Mount of transfiguration. And this was the same Man who calmed the seas and walked on water. He also cursed the fig tree prior to speaking these words elsewhere I believe, and the disciples witnessed it actually wither in a very short amount of time. So the teaching could have been quite literal when speaking of operating in the Power of God.
But as you said:
When will it ever be His will that a believer do this? Certainly greater works will we do in the end-times, greater works even than Elijah, who prayed for it not to rain and it did not rain on the earth (in Israel) for the space of three years. So it would appear our Lord was going to the extremes of what He can quite possibly do through his servants (including parting the Red Sea) if they give themselves to being vessels of His words and power.
And yes, the faith movement is filled with errors, most notably that one is free to claim whatever HE wants, as if he has some sort of blank check with God...
Though not all of them teach this I don't think.
There is good Scriptural connection that makes Mark 11:23-24 a eschatological verse. Of course rabbinical use of “moving mountains” was a phrase referring to seemingly impossible difficulties and that is my understanding as well.
1 Cor 1:19
For it is written,
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And the cleverness of the clever I will set aside."
Isaiah 29:14
therefore, behold, I will again
do wonderful things with this people,
with wonder upon wonder;
and the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,
and the discernment of their discerning men shall be hidden.
Thank you, Siloam. I love these verses.
Thank you Major. It appears you were referencing here this article in particular:
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If so, I find some interesting things here, with one notable exception at the moment. I would take the reference to the Mt. of Olives filling the Dead Sea to be erroneous, since if you look closely "Geba to Rimmon" (in Zechariah 14:10) never really extends to the Dead Sea. All that territory remains West of it. I would also think that Zechariah 14:4 refers more to the drifting of the two parts of the Mt. of Olives away from each other, rather than any part of it being "cast into the sea." But that certainly does not preclude the possibility that the passage in Mark is eschatological. That's very interesting. Maybe it refers to another mountain.
Very possibly. It is only a thought and not a doctrine at all.
The bible refers to Wisdom as a "she".
Proverbs: 1
Wisdom Calls Aloud
20Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
I understand how to pray, etc., but do we speak to Wisdom as well as the HS and Jesus? The bible clearly states Wisdom is a living spirit since it refers to Wisdom as a She. She is someone, she is a spirit.
I just find this interesting and welcome your thoughts.
No problem. I enjoy anything that inspires study and investigation. I had not heard that interpretation before, and again, it still strikes me as if there might be something there... I just can't tell what. Why would He use a mountain?
Again, I do not believe Verse 23 should not be taken as a blanket promise or command to change a mountain or any ground at all. There is absolutely no record in the New Testament of an apostle, gifted Christian or believer changing the ground or moving mountains into the sea
On top of that there is no record of any record of a camel literally passing through the eye of a needle.
Dr. L.A. Stauffer says it well:...........
"Casting mountains into the sea is not a specific objective of the will of God or Christ, but does illustrate vividly and memorably the unlimited power of God when working through men who believe and doubt not. That is all Jesus intended by this instruction,"
Major And Hidden In Him if you wish to continue your discussion on mountains please do so in a pm or make another thread, for this thread has been taken off topic enough.....
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The bible refers to Wisdom as a "she".
Proverbs: 1
Wisdom Calls Aloud
20Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
I understand how to pray, etc., but do we speak to Wisdom as well as the HS and Jesus? The bible clearly states Wisdom is a living spirit since it refers to Wisdom as a She. She is someone, she is a spirit.
I just find this interesting and welcome your thoughts.
No wonder my wife always out-smarts me.
The bible refers to Wisdom as a "she".
Proverbs: 1
Wisdom Calls Aloud
20Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
I understand how to pray, etc., but do we speak to Wisdom as well as the HS and Jesus? The bible clearly states Wisdom is a living spirit since it refers to Wisdom as a She. She is someone, she is a spirit.