American 'christians' It Is Time To Test Yourselves...

In all of scripture and throughout all of history and the in coming days, there have been and will be altogether MANY Days of the Lord.
I don't quite follow you there and I don't want to get off on a tangent either. So I am going to abstain from that one...It has been a pleasure talking to you and please do give the PDF a read. It is not bad news for those who really trust Jesus- but for the unbelieving and fearful, it is a tough read..I admit that.

May God shed abundant grace upon you and give you light to your path friend...

TC
 
It is important to understand that no where in Yeshua gospel did He or any of His Apostles ever teach: " Just ask Yeshua to come into your heart and you will be saved," or "Just believe that Yeshua died and was resurrected on the third day, and you will be saved." Lets look at what the gospel says: Luk 13:3 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."

Mar 6:12 " So they went out and preached that people should repent."

Act 26:20 " but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance."


2Co 7:10 "For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death."

As for works, Yeshua and His Apostles teach throughout to keep the ten commandments: Mat 5:18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." Yeshua is referring here to Yah moral laws, the ten commandments.

1Jn 5:3 " For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome."

Joh 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mar 10:19 "You know the commandments: 'DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,' 'DO NOT MURDER,' 'DO NOT STEAL,' 'DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,' 'Do not defraud,' 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER."

Now it is not uncommon to hear from the podium, "we are no longer under the law, but under Yah grace." This is a deceiving half truth, the only laws that were annulled were the Mosaic laws of various sacrificial offerings which became fulfilled on Calvary:
Heb 10:1 "For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins."


Heb 7:11 "Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood for under it the people received the law, what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law."

Where there is no law, there is no need of repentance, since without Yah law sin would not exist. (Rom 7:8-11). Shalom!
Hi Yeshua's friend...
Uh not sure why you posted that-my PDF never says to 'just believe He died' or 'ask Jesus into your heart'... or anything of that nature. It goes into great detail about repentance for salvation. Did you read the PDF?

TC
 
"Did you read the PDF?" No, but I will look for it. Shalom!

PDF never says to 'just believe He died' or 'ask Jesus into your heart'

This is just some of the common heresy I hear preached from the Podiums today.

PS 2Pe 3:8 gives us a clue related to "the day of the Lord."

Yes Satan loves Pre-trib doctrine. Shalom!
 
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Ro 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
 
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
 
Now we are kind of on the same page...He comes after the tribulation and rules on Earth with His bride for a thousand years...that lines up with scripture. Now since He cannot come on the clouds twice, that means when He comes on the clouds, we will not be with Him but waiting for Him to show up. 'For we know not the day nor the hour when the master cometh'...


TC

When He "comes on the clouds" He will be in earth's atmosphere and descending to arrive on the earth. When He calls for His Bride, He isn't "coming" to earth.
 
I don't quite follow you there and I don't want to get off on a tangent either. So I am going to abstain from that one...It has been a pleasure talking to you and please do give the PDF a read. It is not bad news for those who really trust Jesus- but for the unbelieving and fearful, it is a tough read..I admit that.


The PDF is rife with error, and teaches a false concept. That's bad news. You present further bondage to fear.

May God shed abundant grace upon you and give you light to your path friend...

TC

Thank you---that He does.
 
When He "comes on the clouds" He will be in earth's atmosphere and descending to arrive on the earth. When He calls for His Bride, He isn't "coming" to earth.
You are wrong again...

Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.


Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Rev 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

It clearly says the reign is on Earth...
But there is much more evidence that I wont bother posting here- go read the PDF again chief...

TC
 
The PDF is rife with error, and teaches a false concept. That's bad news. You present further bondage to fear.



Thank you---that He does.

It is only rife with error to those that are trying to compare it to false teachings. You better go back and study some more because your rapture theory does not hold water. Jesus comes on the clouds after the tribulation to judge and reign. Why do you think John saw Heavenly Jerusalem descend down out of Heaven? Because He saw New Jerusalem coming to Earth!! Wake up...Jesus said the fearful and unbelieving will have their part in the lake of fire. I and most everyone who reads scripture are not afraid of anything..The tribulation happens before the wrath and the PDF proves it unequivocally! God promises to protect us from His wrath-

sa 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
Psa 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
Psa 91:6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
Psa 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Psa 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.


TC
 
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You are wrong again...

No I am not wrong. Jesus will call for His Bride as the long-awaited Bridegroom to whom we are betrothed---and when we return with Him at His second coming, seven years later, then He comes as a conquering King to rule and reign.

More study needed for you!
 
It is only rife with error to those that are trying to compare it to false teachings. You better go back and study some more because your rapture theory does not hold water. Jesus comes on the clouds after the tribulation to judge and reigh. Why do you think John saw Heavenly Jerusalem descend down out of Heaven? Because He saw New Jerusalem coming to Earth!! Wake up...

TC

False teachings like yours? The rapture event is no theory. That is why you need to come up higher in your discerning.
 
No I am not wrong. Jesus will call for His Bride as the long-awaited Bridegroom to whom we are betrothed---and when we return with Him at His second coming, seven years later, then He comes as a conquering King to rule and reign.

More study needed for you!
There is not one scripture in the Whole Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation!! Show it to me- You cant! That is a false teaching friend

TC
 
The great tribulation is properly understood in the pre-trib view as a preparation for the restoration of Israel.

Read:
Deuteronomy 4:29-30
Jeremiah 30:4-11
Daniel 9:24-27
Daniel 12:1-2
 
False teachings like yours? The rapture event is no theory. That is why you need to come up higher in your discerning.
First, I said 'pretribulation' rapture theory... There will be a catching up but not before Jesus comes back for Judgment...How can you be coming back on the clouds with Him when Paul clearly said that When He comes on the clouds, wwe who are alive would be causght up...You cannot be in both places! If you say you will be with Him on the clouds, you cannot use the catching up in the clouds scripture.( if you are supposedly already with Him) You cannot be in two place at once...Your theory holds no water

TC
 
The great tribulation is properly understood in the pre-trib view as a preparation for the restoration of Israel.

Read:
Deuteronomy 4:29-30
Jeremiah 30:4-11
Daniel 9:24-27
Daniel 12:1-2


Sorry, but the Daniel Prophecy is already fulfilled by Jesus- He made the covenant with many and caused the sacrificing to cease with His death.Sir- you are so deceived by false prophets..Please listen to me. As to the rest of them I will go through them with you one at a time and show you how they are not a seven year tribulation...

TC
 
First, I said 'pretribulation' rapture theory... There will be a catching up but not before Jesus comes back for Judgment...How can you be coming back on the clouds with Him when Paul clearly said that When He comes on the clouds, wwe who are alive would be causght up...You cannot be in both places! If you say you will be with Him on the clouds, you cannot use the catching up in the clouds scripture.( if you are supposedly already with Him) You cannot be in two place at once...Your theory holds no water

TC

No, there will be a catching away of the saints, the Church, by our Bridegroom, before the Tribulation comes upon the world.

The word of God teaches this and also teaches that we, the Bride, will come with Him and we will reign with Him for those thousand years. We will definitely be in both places: heaven for the wedding, and for the Bema seat judgment of Christ, and then once rewarded with our Kingdom callings, we will come back with Him to exercise those roles.

You have a set view that cannot be corrected. Sad.
 
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