Must one Hold to the trinity to be saved?

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Desiring More Truth said:
Why are you calling them "Parts" of God? I've never before heard anyone say that.
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because there is One God and 3 components to that One God. so many sinners i witness to are turned off whenever the word trinity is introduced. if the topic does arise, i have learned they feel better when you explain it differently. trinity is not Biblical. the Hebrews did not see God as 3. so i explain it without words that man has made into a doctrine.
 
GodisSpirit said:
because there is One God and 3 components to that One God. so many sinners i witness to are turned off whenever the word trinity is introduced. if the topic does arise, i have learned they feel better when you explain it differently. trinity is not Biblical. the Hebrews did not see God as 3. so i explain it without words that man has made into a doctrine.
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i will explain why i mentioned the Hebrews.

Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים: ʾĚlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]) in the Hebrew Bible it usually refers to a single deity, particularly the God of Israel
 
Psalms 82 begins with:
God takes His stand in the assembly of God. He judges among the ‘gods’:
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6 I said: ‘You are ‘gods’, and you are all sons of Elyon,
7 yet you will die like men,
 
crossnote said:
Please stay on topic.
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The answer to the topic of the thread “Must one Hold to the trinity to be saved?” is found in Colossians 2:8-10

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”

This should give those who deny the deity of Jesus cause for concern because without Jesus the Saviour, who is “God with us” there is no salvation. Neither should we forget it was the pre-incarnate Jesus who acting as the WORD, created heaven and earth. God is One, and on that Jew and Gentile can all agree. Praise his Holy Name.
 
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Major said:
That idea is called "Double Predestination".

Some object to the doctrine because the Bible teaches us that God is love, and they believe that it is not loving to predestine people to go to hell.

The Bible says that "God wants all men to be saved".

The Bible also says in Romans 8:29 that.........
“For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestine to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.”

The doctrine of Predestination teaches that all events have been willed by God and that He willed eternal damnation for some people and salvation for others.

Having foreknowledge of what decisions people would make is far different from predetermining it.

According to the Bible, God foresaw, and thus foreknew, each generation that would live upon the earth, He coupled immediately with His foreknowledge the decision to predestine them all to be saved.

Divine foreknowledge and divine predestination in no way take away human freedom of choice. No Bible author teaches that the Lord does predestine some people to be saved and some others to be lost, despite their own freedom of choice in the serious matter. The Scriptures clearly teach that God does not predestine people but rather invites them all to be saved by their own freedom of choice.
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We Calvinists also hold to what is Compatibilism (also known as soft determinism), which is the belief is the belief that God's predetermination and meticulous providence is "compatible" with voluntary choice.
So though holding to Election and predestination, also would hold to accountability!
 
Cooper said:
The answer to the topic of the thread “Must one Hold to the trinity to be saved?” is found in Colossians 2:8-10

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”

This should give those who deny the deity of Jesus cause for concern because without Jesus the Saviour, who is “God with us” there is no salvation. Neither should we forget it was the pre-incarnate Jesus who acting as the WORD, created heaven and earth. God is One, and on that Jew and Gentile can all agree. Praise his Holy Name.
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If there is No trinity, then God must be either Unitarianism, Modualistic, or oneness, yet all three of those views are classified as heresy!
 
Major said:
Essence =
Each of the three persons is fully divine in nature, but each is not different than the other persons in essence. We find in Scripture that each has a will, loves, and says “I” and “You” when speaking. The Father is not the same person as the Son, who is not the same person as the Holy Spirit, and who is not the same person as the Father. Each is divine, yet there are not three gods but one God. There are three individual subsistences or persons. The word “subsistence” means something that has a real existence. The word “person” denotes individuality and self-awareness. Though there is only one God, He reveals Himself to us in three simultaneous and distinct persons.
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Whatever makes the father God, both Jesus and the Holy Spirit themselves also have that!
 
God is Spirit has stated in this thread that he believes in the Trinity and that all 3 are of the same essence, he just does not like the term "Person" to describe them.
 
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