What Are The Doctrines In The Bible?

[In Awe of Him]

Are you aware of the Immaculate Conception.
NOT of the Lord Jesus but of Mary. This belief states that Mary, Jesus’ mother, was born without original sin. It became official Catholic doctrine in 1854.
Of course, there is not one singel word or suggestion of this in the Bible.

They also claim she remained a VIRGIN for her entire married life.

They pray the rosary ( which are beads ) and pray to her directly to INTERCEDE.

They elevate the position of certain pre-deceased Catholics to the SUPERIOR level of "sainthood"... and encourage praying to the plethora of
Saints according to what they have been assigned CEO of. HA

They teach that if you die in a state of mortal sin.... you are bound to hell. Confession to a priest is not a suggestion it is a MANDATE of the church.

They teach that a priest has supernatural powers invested by GOD to FORGIVE ALL SINS.

They believe in baby baptisms as a right of passage to salvation.

There is so much more that they falsely claim.

I SPEAK as a former Catholic who had a very DEVOUT CATHOLIC mother. I would be REMISS if I remained SILENT on the absolute HERESY that this organization spews and entraps their members with.

This is a GENERAL statement and aimed at NO one in particular... but it is my opinion none the less.

 

[In Awe of Him]

With the above said... IF I have broken any rules... PLEASE simply remove my entire post.
This thread is NOT about Catholicism.... and so I do not desire to derail the invaluable information that is being shared here.

Love, DA SHEEP

 

[CapeCodder]

Now, with all due respect to you, are you aware of some of the Non-Biblical traditions that are taught in the Catholic church?

Are you aware of the Tradition of Purgatory which is taught by the RCC?
Purgatory is a place or state where souls undergo purification before entering heaven. Catholics believe it’s a chance to cleanse venial sins.
Of course there is NO such place or state mentioned in the Bible.

Are you aware of the Immaculate Conception.
NOT of the Lord Jesus but of Mary. This belief states that Mary, Jesus’ mother, was born without original sin. It became official Catholic doctrine in 1854.
Of course, there is not one singel word or suggestion of this in the Bible.

Are you aware of the Papel Infallibility?
This tradition says that the Pope, as an Apostle and Vicar of Christ can and has changed and added to the morals and faith of all members. Of course this is condemned in Deut. 4:1-2 and the Revelation 22. God said nothing is to be added or taken away from the Word of God.

Are you aware of Priestly Celibacy?
It is the practice of the Priests in the RCC to not be married. It is absolutly the opposite of what the Bible tells us.

Now.....I am not saying these things to start a n argument or a confrontation. IT is not what I do. What I do is Teach the Word of God.

So then, having said that, if an organization does these non-Biblical things, do you think that we as Christians should turn our heads and ignore them and allow those people to be taught false non-Biblical traditions over and above the Word of God to their damnation?

With all due respect the bible was written by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, real Christians are the 1st century Gnostics whose practice was declared heresy by said Roman Bishops. I don't view the RCC in a favorable way, but I won't judge them either. People have a right to walk their own path.

 

[CapeCodder]

I will let this rest. GOD bless you. Major has done a far better job at explaining the IMPORTANCE of SOLID Doctrine than I could ever articulate.

I took the Esoterical Christian path, trust me I don't care for the RCC. They destroyed everything that was real.

 

[In Awe of Him]

I took the Esoterical Christian path, trust me I don't care for the RCC. They destroyed everything that was real.

I repeat a sincere and most LOVING BLESSING upon you.

 

[ModeratorTeam]

With the above said... IF I have broken any rules... PLEASE simply remove my entire post.
This thread is NOT about Catholicism.... and so I do not desire to derail the invaluable information that is being shared here.

Love, DA SHEEP

The information provided does not violate any CFS Rules.

The information provided is factual and is doctrine that is taught openly by the RCC.


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[Major]

With all due respect the bible was written by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, real Christians are the 1st century Gnostics whose practice was declared heresy by said Roman Bishops. I don't view the RCC in a favorable way, but I won't judge them either. People have a right to walk their own path.

That is just not correct CapeCodder. The Council of Nicaea did not write the Bible.

The Bible was penned by 40 men over 1500 years. Every word they penned down was inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ so that every word in the Bible is God breathed.

The idea that the Bible was "written by the Counci; of Nicaea in 325" is actually a falsehood that has been used to cast suspicion on the origins of the canon, which undermines the Bible’s authority.

I encourage everyone to investigate Dan Brown’s 2003 bestseller, The Da Vinci Code, planted this idea in our culture, and many now think Constantine or Nicaea established the Bible. But Brown didn’t invent this story. He only perpetuated it through his fiction.

The facts are that There is no historical basis for the idea that Nicaea established the canon and created the Bible.
The term “canon” is used to describe the books that are divinely inspired and therefore belong in the Bible. The difficulty in determining the biblical canon is that the Bible does not give us a list of the books that belong in the Bible. Determining the canon was a process conducted first by Jewish rabbis and scholars and later by early Christians. Ultimately, it was God who decided what books belonged in the biblical canon. A book of Scripture belonged in the canon from the moment God inspired its writing. It was simply a matter of God’s convincing His human followers which books should be included in the Bible.

If we can point to a date for the final canon, as we know it today, we can say between 200-250 AD, far before Rome started to see the benefit of Christianity. On the contrary, around 250 AD Rome still persecuted the church.

In AD 397, the Council of Carthage confirmed what the church already established more than a century before.

 

[Major]

They also claim she remained a VIRGIN for her entire married life.

They pray the rosary ( which are beads ) and pray to her directly to INTERCEDE.

They elevate the position of certain pre-deceased Catholics to the SUPERIOR level of "sainthood"... and encourage praying to the plethora of
Saints according to what they have been assigned CEO of. HA

They teach that if you die in a state of mortal sin.... you are bound to hell. Confession to a priest is not a suggestion it is a MANDATE of the church.

They teach that a priest has supernatural powers invested by GOD to FORGIVE ALL SINS.

They believe in baby baptisms as a right of passage to salvation.

There is so much more that they falsely claim.

I SPEAK as a former Catholic who had a very DEVOUT CATHOLIC mother. I would be REMISS if I remained SILENT on the absolute HERESY that this organization spews and entraps their members with.

This is a GENERAL statement and aimed at NO one in particular... but it is my opinion none the less.

Yes, that is the Catholic tradition of Perpetual Virginity.

IN other words she was a virgin before and after the Birth of Jesus . We all know that is not true because the Bible tells us that Jesus had 1/2 brothers and sisters and if you point that out to any Catholic they will insist that those "brothers & Sister" are the cousins of Jesus.

That again is incorrect. The Greek words for cousin is a totally different word and the authors who said brothers and sisters used the Greek word for those names.

Everything you posted is correct and it can not be debated as it is a matter of fact. See post #46!

 

[Major]

With all due respect the bible was written by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, real Christians are the 1st century Gnostics whose practice was declared heresy by said Roman Bishops. I don't view the RCC in a favorable way, but I won't judge them either. People have a right to walk their own path.

Dear CC.....I was reflecting upon your post and I saw something I did not see originally.

You said......
"real Christians are the 1st century Gnostics whose practice was declared heresy by said Roman Bishops. "

Please do not think that I am looking for a fault, my goal and calling in my last days is simply to teach the Word of God and having said that, I did not want you to be in a position og not knowing.

If you are saying that a lot of Christians came "Out" of the Gnostic belief and were Christian then you are correct.

If you are saying that the 1st Century church of people were correct in their teachings and belief in Gnosticism, then that would not be correct.

Among some of their basic doctrines, they were found to believe that the world was created by another god other than the Father of Christ. This inferior god was known as the Demiurge, also called by some as the God of Justice, as opposed to the Christ’s Father, the good God. As a result they held a doctrine that stated we are inherently depraved by nature and incapable of salvation.

The Gnostics taught that the good God, having compassion on the human race, sent his Son to show them the way to salvation. However since the physical nature of man is inherently corrupt, they taught that the Son never really became man or God in the flesh.

One of its condemning features in Gnosticism is that it combined certain elements of Christianity with the "mystery religions" extant at the time. These "mysteries" involved secret societies, rituals, levels of understanding, and strange practices like "a gripping religious ecstasy" and being "possessed by the god", whatever that is.

"Gnosis" that is, knowledge in the spiritual mystically acquired - not from God, but "mystically acquired". Gnosis was the single path to the highest holiness and the highest practice. This knowledge, is not a rational implement of empirical science or from study in the Bible, rather, it is a means of mystical and magical domination of the self and the world. It is attained by an intensive training of the body and spirit, either through asceticism, (strict self denial) or as a rule, through strict methodological meditation.

Now, if anyone is familiar with the elements of New Age Religion, all of what I just posted should sound very familiar.

 

[In Awe of Him]

7. The Doctrine of Salvation: Through faith in Christ, believers are justified before God and receive the gift of eternal life.

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 3:16-18 (NASB)

He saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we have done, but because of His own compassion and mercy, by the cleansing of the new birth (spiritual transformation, regeneration) and renewing by the Holy Spirit, ~Titus 3:5 (AMP)

because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. ~Romans 10:9 (AMP)

For it is by grace [God’s remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you have been saved [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God; ~Ephesians 2:8 (AMP)

I have been pondering this Doctrine for a few days now. THIS is WHERE everything BEGINS for the CHRISTIAN. It is because of THIS that we have the HOPE and PROMISE of ETERNAL LIFE. It is ONLY by THIS that we are made acceptable. It is only BECAUSE of CHRIST... due to the PERFECT SACRIFICE ( who IS CHRIST ) that we can have salvation. We ( as Christians ) are invited to share in the GLORY of GOD for eternity! WOW.

It is NOTHING from us. I cannot stress this enough. Our works are like dirty rags... and we MUST remember this. WHAT we OFFER to GOD in our lives does NOT make us GOOD... it makes us OBEDIENT.

WE cannot earn our salvation.... there is NOTHING we could do that is ACCEPTABLE to GOD in that department.

Our SALVATION comes from the TRUTH that JESUS CHRIST paid the price of SIN... once and for all =ATONEMENT. Atonement and Salvation go hand in hand... but Atonement has NOTHING to do with us.

This doctrine is ONE of the MOST important of all... in my opinion. The wrong teaching of the doctrine of Salvation will lead a person right into the ARMS of LEGALISM... and into the life of striving and trying to "keep oneself SAVED".... which in turn leads to hypocrisy... because one CANNOT keep themselves saved for one moment.

It was easy for me to walk out of the Roman Catholic church. I formally did so after my mother passed away in 2008.... BUT it was NOT easy to walk away from the lies I was told by my living relatives regarding their belief that one can lose their salvation. This kept me in AGONY and FEAR right up until my healing in 2021. It haunted me... it kept me oppressed and it arrested my ability to TRUST GOD.

SALVATION must be clearly and properly understood before ANYTHING else falls into place.

Once Salvation is understood.... One must understand WHO they are in CHRIST.... and then.... and only then.... can a Christian live a FRUITFUL and VIBRANT life... filled to overflowing with JOY and PEACE that surpasses understanding.

 

[Major]

7. The Doctrine of Salvation: Through faith in Christ, believers are justified before God and receive the gift of eternal life.

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 3:16-18 (NASB)

He saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we have done, but because of His own compassion and mercy, by the cleansing of the new birth (spiritual transformation, regeneration) and renewing by the Holy Spirit, ~Titus 3:5 (AMP)

because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. ~Romans 10:9 (AMP)

For it is by grace [God’s remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you have been saved [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God; ~Ephesians 2:8 (AMP)

I have been pondering this Doctrine for a few days now. THIS is WHERE everything BEGINS for the CHRISTIAN. It is because of THIS that we have the HOPE and PROMISE of ETERNAL LIFE. It is ONLY by THIS that we are made acceptable. It is only BECAUSE of CHRIST... due to the PERFECT SACRIFICE ( who IS CHRIST ) that we can have salvation. We ( as Christians ) are invited to share in the GLORY of GOD for eternity! WOW.

It is NOTHING from us. I cannot stress this enough. Our works are like dirty rags... and we MUST remember this. WHAT we OFFER to GOD in our lives does NOT make us GOOD... it makes us OBEDIENT.

WE cannot earn our salvation.... there is NOTHING we could do that is ACCEPTABLE to GOD in that department.

Our SALVATION comes from the TRUTH that JESUS CHRIST paid the price of SIN... once and for all =ATONEMENT. Atonement and Salvation go hand in hand... but Atonement has NOTHING to do with us.

This doctrine is ONE of the MOST important of all... in my opinion. The wrong teaching of the doctrine of Salvation will lead a person right into the ARMS of LEGALISM... and into the life of striving and trying to "keep oneself SAVED".... which in turn leads to hypocrisy... because one CANNOT keep themselves saved for one moment.

It was easy for me to walk out of the Roman Catholic church. I formally did so after my mother passed away in 2008.... BUT it was NOT easy to walk away from the lies I was told by my living relatives regarding their belief that one can lose their salvation. This kept me in AGONY and FEAR right up until my healing in 2021. It haunted me... it kept me oppressed and it arrested my ability to TRUST GOD.

SALVATION must be clearly and properly understood before ANYTHING else falls into place.

Once Salvation is understood.... One must understand WHO they are in CHRIST.... and then.... and only then.... can a Christian live a FRUITFUL and VIBRANT life... filled to overflowing with JOY and PEACE that surpasses understanding.

Excellent post.

I have been blessed to have led many Catholic to the Lord Jesus and see them saved. I had one lady do exactly as you did and she wound up teaching the ladies Sunday School class for several years.

I also had the pleasure of seeing a young man accept Christ and make the choice to leave the Catholic church and unite with a Southern Baptist church. Now you will know what came next. His family disowned him. To them he was not able to enter heaven because he renounced the Catholic church. They would not speak to him or allow him into their home. That young man (55 years old) died from cancer without speaking or hearing from his family for 5 years and none of them came to his funeral. It was one of the saddest times in my life.

Now, it just so happened that this family live on the same street as I did. If you had $100.00 and made the bet that I would go to them and read them the riot act....You would have won a lot of money.

 

[In Awe of Him]

To them he was not able to enter heaven because he renounced the Catholic church.

YEP.... I am most AWARE that there is NOW a MEMO stating that In Awe of Him has been DENIED entry.... NO pass go... no collect 200.00.... GO to JAIL. HAHA.

Now, it just so happened that this family live on the same street as I did. If you had $100.00 and made the bet that I would go to them and read them the riot act....You would have won a lot of money.

smiling.

 

[cocoa]

I can say that seeing the doctrines as an itemized list, is fascinating. Honestly, I didnt know some were separate doctrines, like 6,7,and 8.

And I appreciate the posted scriptures!

 

[Major]

I can say that seeing the doctrines as an itemized list, is fascinating. Honestly, I didnt know some were separate doctrines, like 6,7,and 8.

And I appreciate the posted scriptures!

My dear friend......I did not spend a lot of time thinking about that list. That list is what I thought of first. Christian doctrines are Scriptural teachings based on Biblical truths and there are many more that I did not list.

For example, Some people would argue that water baptism is a Bible doctrine. However it is a specific "Church Doctrine" and not a Bible doctrine at all.

Ame with infant baptism. Some people will argue that if babies are not baptized in water when they are infants, they will not go to heaven if they die. That is also not a Bible doctrine in any way.

 

[CapeCodder]

If you are saying that the 1st Century church of people were correct in their teachings and belief in Gnosticism, then that would not be correct.

Among some of their basic doctrines, they were found to believe that the world was created by another god other than the Father of Christ. This inferior god was known as the Demiurge, also called by some as the God of Justice, as opposed to the Christ’s Father, the good God. As a result they held a doctrine that stated we are inherently depraved by nature and incapable of salvation.

The Gnostics taught that the good God, having compassion on the human race, sent his Son to show them the way to salvation. However since the physical nature of man is inherently corrupt, they taught that the Son never really became man or God in the flesh.

One of its condemning features in Gnosticism is that it combined certain elements of Christianity with the "mystery religions" extant at the time. These "mysteries" involved secret societies, rituals, levels of understanding, and strange practices like "a gripping religious ecstasy" and being "possessed by the god", whatever that is.

"Gnosis" that is, knowledge in the spiritual mystically acquired - not from God, but "mystically acquired". Gnosis was the single path to the highest holiness and the highest practice. This knowledge, is not a rational implement of empirical science or from study in the Bible, rather, it is a means of mystical and magical domination of the self and the world. It is attained by an intensive training of the body and spirit, either through asceticism, (strict self denial) or as a rule, through strict methodological meditation.

Now, if anyone is familiar with the elements of New Age Religion, all of what I just posted should sound very familiar.

Honestly? No one knows, all we have is faith.

 

[CapeCodder]

That is just not correct CapeCodder. The Council of Nicaea did not write the Bible.

The Bible was penned by 40 men over 1500 years. Every word they penned down was inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ so that every word in the Bible is God breathed.

The idea that the Bible was "written by the Counci; of Nicaea in 325" is actually a falsehood that has been used to cast suspicion on the origins of the canon, which undermines the Bible’s authority.

I encourage everyone to investigate Dan Brown’s 2003 bestseller, The Da Vinci Code, planted this idea in our culture, and many now think Constantine or Nicaea established the Bible. But Brown didn’t invent this story. He only perpetuated it through his fiction.

The facts are that There is no historical basis for the idea that Nicaea established the canon and created the Bible.
The term “canon” is used to describe the books that are divinely inspired and therefore belong in the Bible. The difficulty in determining the biblical canon is that the Bible does not give us a list of the books that belong in the Bible. Determining the canon was a process conducted first by Jewish rabbis and scholars and later by early Christians. Ultimately, it was God who decided what books belonged in the biblical canon. A book of Scripture belonged in the canon from the moment God inspired its writing. It was simply a matter of God’s convincing His human followers which books should be included in the Bible.

If we can point to a date for the final canon, as we know it today, we can say between 200-250 AD, far before Rome started to see the benefit of Christianity. On the contrary, around 250 AD Rome still persecuted the church.

In AD 397, the Council of Carthage confirmed what the church already established more than a century before.

Again, all we have is faith, regarding what's correct and not correct. Most Christians see what they WANT the truth to be. None of us have any idea. If there was proof one way or another, we wouldn't be considered Faith based religion.

 

[BibleLover]

Dear CC.....I was reflecting upon your post and I saw something I did not see originally.

You said......
"real Christians are the 1st century Gnostics whose practice was declared heresy by said Roman Bishops. "

Please do not think that I am looking for a fault, my goal and calling in my last days is simply to teach the Word of God and having said that, I did not want you to be in a position og not knowing.

If you are saying that a lot of Christians came "Out" of the Gnostic belief and were Christian then you are correct.

If you are saying that the 1st Century church of people were correct in their teachings and belief in Gnosticism, then that would not be correct.

Among some of their basic doctrines, they were found to believe that the world was created by another god other than the Father of Christ. This inferior god was known as the Demiurge, also called by some as the God of Justice, as opposed to the Christ’s Father, the good God. As a result they held a doctrine that stated we are inherently depraved by nature and incapable of salvation.

The Gnostics taught that the good God, having compassion on the human race, sent his Son to show them the way to salvation. However since the physical nature of man is inherently corrupt, they taught that the Son never really became man or God in the flesh.

One of its condemning features in Gnosticism is that it combined certain elements of Christianity with the "mystery religions" extant at the time. These "mysteries" involved secret societies, rituals, levels of understanding, and strange practices like "a gripping religious ecstasy" and being "possessed by the god", whatever that is.

"Gnosis" that is, knowledge in the spiritual mystically acquired - not from God, but "mystically acquired". Gnosis was the single path to the highest holiness and the highest practice. This knowledge, is not a rational implement of empirical science or from study in the Bible, rather, it is a means of mystical and magical domination of the self and the world. It is attained by an intensive training of the body and spirit, either through asceticism, (strict self denial) or as a rule, through strict methodological meditation.

Now, if anyone is familiar with the elements of New Age Religion, all of what I just posted should sound very familiar.

Paul wrote the Book of Colossians specifically to address the Gnosticism that was creeping into the church at Colossia.

 

[Major]

Again, all we have is faith, regarding what's correct and not correct. Most Christians see what they WANT the truth to be. None of us have any idea. If there was proof one way or another, we wouldn't be considered Faith based religion.

I agree my friend and appreciate your responce. However none of that speaks to the idea that you said was ....
"With all due respect the bible was written by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, real Christians are the 1st century Gnostics".

My I also say that I believe that the Word of God is correct, and it is the only thing we can be sure of that is the truth.
It is the "proof" that we place our eternal being in.

John 14:6........
"I am the way the truth and the life and no one come to the Father except by Me".

 

[Major]

Honestly? No one knows, all we have is faith.

Surely you want to think about what you said.

We live in a time where there are many voices speaking out in the news, social media, schools, universities and yes...forums!
The world has truth, you have your truth, and the people around you have truth also. We live in a society that is persistent in finding the truth but has a real problem in accepting the truth when it hits them in the face "and it different from what they want to believe"!
We also live in a society that does not persevere in truth.

We can see and understand that if we want the truth, we need the facts to confirm what is truth and what is false. That fact right there goes beyond mere "faith".

I hope that you understand that I am coming from the perspective that the Bible says that God’s Word is truth (John 17:17), and to unbelievers, there are very few to no facts that validate what is written in the Bible. However....to the born again believer, what we read in the Bible is factual and what is it that Christians believe essentially? This is kind of the theological truth. So God exists, God is the creator. God is triune. So what do we believe by faith.....Salvation is by faith. What we believe, that's the theology. Second is why we believe it.

Allow me to give you a certain factual statement. If the Truth of Gods Word had been distorted and disguised as a lie to everyone that has lived and is living now, every single human being would have been saved in the past and in the future.

This is why Bible Doctrine is the most important issue in the believers life.

Think about that for a minute.

 

[CapeCodder]

Surely you want to think about what you said.

We live in a time where there are many voices speaking out in the news, social media, schools, universities and yes...forums!
The world has truth, you have your truth, and the people around you have truth also. We live in a society that is persistent in finding the truth but has a real problem in accepting the truth when it hits them in the face "and it different from what they want to believe"!
We also live in a society that does not persevere in truth.

We can see and understand that if we want the truth, we need the facts to confirm what is truth and what is false. That fact right there goes beyond mere "faith".

I hope that you understand that I am coming from the perspective that the Bible says that God’s Word is truth (John 17:17), and to unbelievers, there are very few to no facts that validate what is written in the Bible. However....to the born again believer, what we read in the Bible is factual and what is it that Christians believe essentially? This is kind of the theological truth. So God exists, God is the creator. God is triune. So what do we believe by faith.....Salvation is by faith. What we believe, that's the theology. Second is why we believe it.

Allow me to give you a certain factual statement. If the Truth of Gods Word had been distorted and disguised as a lie to everyone that has lived and is living now, every single human being would have been saved in the past and in the future.

This is why Bible Doctrine is the most important issue in the believers life.

Think about that for a minute.

What I'm seeing is the same old "my denomination is better than your denomination" thing. It's been going on for centuries and it gets old. Ponder on that. Where does God say you're right and I'm wrong?