No one will be able to say that they do not know what the ole Major believes about Juk's question. He has made it clear over much time his stance on this. We have kicked this around and around and around but in responce to Jims question of ....................
"where in Gods word to us in how we are to conduct our selves does it say go and judge others and spread it around" i found the following to be helpful".........I feel that we must be crystal clear on this thing about JUDGING.
Many Christians misinterpret what the Bible says about judging and say that we should never judge or question when some does make a judgement.
John 7:24..........
Jesus said,
"Stop judging by mere appearances,
and make a right judgment."
In this verse Jesus is talking about making righteous judgments in regard to God's laws. We must make judgments in matters of biblical doctrine and righteous living. The Bible is our foundation and if we don't discern and follow what God says then it will become just another book.
1 Cor. 5:11-13 ...........
" you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. 'Expel the wicked man from among you'.
James 5:19-20. .........
"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins."
It's not possible to follow these instructions, and save this man from death, without first judging his actions. As hard as it may be to do, it is an act of love to confront a sinning brother or sister and it is uncaring not to try to help them.
In Ezekiel 33:1-9, God warns the Watchman that if he fails to sound a warning, then he will be held accountable. All Christians are Watchmen so let us lovingly encourage brothers and sisters who have gone off the path of righteousness. Also, if we don't keep God's standards of holiness, sin will soon work it's way through the people and the church will become just another unholy social club.
Even though people will tell us that we should not judge, the Bible makes it clear that we should.
Just so that we are all on the same page.
Many Christians misinterpret what the Bible says about judging and say that we should never judge or question when some does make a judgement.
John 7:24..........
Jesus said,
"Stop judging by mere appearances,
and make a right judgment."
In this verse Jesus is talking about making righteous judgments in regard to God's laws
. We must make judgments in matters of biblical doctrine and righteous living. The Bible is our foundation and if we don't discern and follow what God says then it will become just another book.
Yes make righteious judgment - smart judgement according to His word - now where does this say - judge and spread it around - judge and speak your judgment to all ?
1 Cor 5:11-13 ...........
" you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church?
Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. 'Expel the wicked man from among you'.
Exactly dont hang around a BROTHER in Christ who is this way. Again this does not give any one permission to go around running their mouth even via a keyboard and bad mouth those who belong to God. Judge these things as unto your life and walk.
James 5:19-20. .........
"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins."
It's not possible to follow these instructions, and save this man from death,
without first judging his actions. As hard as it may be to do, it is an act of love to confront a sinning brother or sister and it is uncaring not to try to help them.
Again this judging here is not running your mouth and telling every one like you are the Godly Paul Revere - this just makes you a gossip and a nuisance and busy body.
In
Ezekiel 33:1-9, God warns the Watchman that if he fails to sound a warning, then he will be held accountable. All Christians are Watchmen so let us lovingly encourage brothers and sisters who have gone off the path of righteousness. Also, if we don't keep God's standards of holiness, sin will soon work it's way through the people and the church will become just another unholy social club.
LOL Thats a pretty big strectch there using that point.
Even though people will tell us that we should not judge, the Bible makes itclear that we should.
There are ways to judge - running around spouting off accusations is not the Godly judging talked about in scripture but it is what undissciplined Christians do as they try to make the word back them and all in all they are just a noisy sound poluting the ears of God with this self made righteous judging of nothing but gossip and a busy body spewing out poison.
Just so that we are all on the same page.
Yep just so we are on the same page. Major in reality - there has got to be spiritual laws that govern how we judge other wise we are nothing more then a gossiper in the name of Christ.
This is what I have been saying - the bible is very clear on judging others especially those of the faith. People take this way too far and expect it to be ok because they have scripture taken out of context to back them.
Any way Major Thanks for answering me and as always NO disrespect or sarcastic words or tones. Just explaining what I mean.
Have a wonderful day
God Bless
Jim