Abomination Of Desolation

#41
Are you kidding me???? YOUR arrogance is not appreciated neither is your pride. You are speaking with people on this site who are very educated and Biblically sound and it is obvious that you are not.

All of this is for what......to show me that you know how to copy and paste on a computer!

There is NOTHING in the Scriptures that say the A/C is going to be a Muslim and there are is going to be TWO beasts.

Rev. 13:1
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

This is the A/C, the son of perdition.

Rev. 13:11-12
"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

This is the "false prophet" who will lead the world to worship the A/C and take his mark.
u did not even read or consider. all u did was get offended and why are u offended? to call me names? did i do so to u?

wisdom is not all ways given to the high esteemed. For it is written god has respect to the lowly, and despises all who are proud in heart.

You may read the bible or study it but just because you study it or your teachers in the scriptures study it does not mean god will give you the correct interpretation of it.

Like i said before if a man disagrees with the interpretation of the scripture then let him disprove me with scripture.

for there is not a man alive that can disprove the death of the saints in the last days. all you all and they can do is call me names and speculate
 
#42
Are you kidding me???? YOUR arrogance is not appreciated neither is your pride. You are speaking with people on this site who are very educated and Biblically sound and it is obvious that you are not.

All of this is for what......to show me that you know how to copy and paste on a computer!

There is NOTHING in the Scriptures that say the A/C is going to be a Muslim and there are is going to be TWO beasts.

Rev. 13:1
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

This is the A/C, the son of perdition.

Rev. 13:11-12
"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

This is the "false prophet" who will lead the world to worship the A/C and take his mark.
u show me 2 verses to prove your interpretation none of which states what religion anti christ will be.

tell me the verse that says what race he will be or religion he will be. before you say he will not be muslim how do you know what race or religion he will be if GOD does not say? but you say im full of pride? read your reply before you call me names which you should of called your self
 
#43
u did not even read or consider. all u did was get offended and why are u offended? to call me names? did i do so to u?

wisdom is not all ways given to the high esteemed. For it is written god has respect to the lowly, and despises all who are proud in heart.

You may read the bible or study it but just because you study it or your teachers in the scriptures study it does not mean god will give you the correct interpretation of it.

Like i said before if a man disagrees with the interpretation of the scripture then let him disprove me with scripture.

for there is not a man alive that can disprove the death of the saints in the last days. all you all and they can do is call me names and speculate
Goodbye ! Have a wonderful life.
 
#44
u show me 2 verses to prove your interpretation none of which states what religion anti christ will be.

tell me the verse that says what race he will be or religion he will be. before you say he will not be muslim how do you know what race or religion he will be if GOD does not say? but you say im full of pride? read your reply before you call me names which you should of called your self
I do not know !! That is what I was saying to you! YOU said he would be a Muslim and I am telling you that there are no Scriptures that say that.
 
#45
No arguments from me. But if the Tribulation starts with the arrival of the Two Witnesses, where do you place the 7 year Peace treaty, and the Rapture.

Also, there is something in Ezekiel 38 about a conflict with Gog and Magog.

According to Daniel 9:27 the so-called seven year tribulation, which is really Daniel’s 70th Week, will begin with a covenant enforced by the anti-Christ. Many believe this covenant will bring a brief period of peace to Israel following the battle of Ezekiel 38, Dan. 8:25 and 1 Thess. 5:3 all seem to be saying that to us.

Then to be a peace treaty, it seems that there must be a conflict hence Ezekiel 38.

How do they work into your formula?
  1. Rapture (at any time)
  2. AC makes his way to power, having the answers (supposedly) needed (from the Ezek war?)
  3. AC signs deal with Israel for 7 years - that same day the Two Witnesses appear, temple begins to be built, or just prior
  4. Judgements begin worldwide
  5. 3.5 years in (1260 days) the Two Witnesses are killed, the AC does his thing in the rebuilt temple
  6. 3.5 days later they rise from the dead and return to heaven live on CNN
  7. 1260 days from their death the Lord returns to set up His 1000-year kingdom
That's how I see it. That's how I believe it.
 
#47
Why do you think there is no 666 in Rev 13:18?
My Greek New Testament certainly has it... if you can accept that the digamma character has been mistaken by some as 'sigma'. digamma = 6,also known as stigna
sigma = 200
What source manuscript do you use?
Interesting point,but probably irrelevant, stigma is also a mark, but that word is much more recent that the original autograph.
There are 3 Greek letters that mean nothing. Gematria doesn't exist in the scriptures. Because of this misunderstanding of the three letters (not "six hundred, threescore, and six"). This what the "word" in Greek, χξς, which means nothing. So it's the translator's interpretation. It's the ONLY book that says do not change the words of book. I wrote all this up here:
http://www.christianforumsite.com/threads/how-can-we-recognise-the-man-of-sin.37520/#post-315548
http://www.christianforumsite.com/t...nalist-your-thoughts.39791/page-4#post-365842

I don't want to hijack this thread. Read page 187 (Appendix L) of my book http://abdicate.net/book.aspx for more info.
 
#48
  1. Rapture (at any time)
  2. AC makes his way to power, having the answers (supposedly) needed (from the Ezek war?)
  3. AC signs deal with Israel for 7 years - that same day the Two Witnesses appear, temple begins to be built, or just prior
  4. Judgements begin worldwide
  5. 3.5 years in (1260 days) the Two Witnesses are killed, the AC does his thing in the rebuilt temple
  6. 3.5 days later they rise from the dead and return to heaven live on CNN
  7. 1260 days from their death the Lord returns to set up His 1000-year kingdom
That's how I see it. That's how I believe it.
Sounds right to me.
 
#49
@Thebookofthelamb and @Major chill out. State your case, if you don't agree, let the other have the last words. Remember when you point your finger, three more are pointing back at yourself. If this continues I'll freeze the thread and issue warning points.
I thought that I did that in comment #43 and I am not quite sure how it turned up before #44. I thought I had done them just the opposite so as to be saying that I was done and moving on.
 
#50
There are 3 Greek letters that mean nothing. Gematria doesn't exist in the scriptures. Because of this misunderstanding of the three letters (not "six hundred, threescore, and six"). This what the "word" in Greek, χξς, which means nothing. So it's the translator's interpretation. It's the ONLY book that says do not change the words of book. I wrote all this up here:
http://www.christianforumsite.com/threads/how-can-we-recognise-the-man-of-sin.37520/#post-315548
http://www.christianforumsite.com/t...nalist-your-thoughts.39791/page-4#post-365842

I don't want to hijack this thread. Read page 187 (Appendix L) of my book http://abdicate.net/book.aspx for more info.
OK thanks for the links, I'll have a read.
Elsewhere you said "Remember when you point your finger, three more are pointing back at yourself." I don't know where you got that one from, but man I love it.
 
#51
OK thanks for the links, I'll have a read.
Elsewhere you said "Remember when you point your finger, three more are pointing back at yourself." I don't know where you got that one from, but man I love it.
:) Observation... point your finger at something and then look at your hand. I didn't come up with it. I heard it as a kid some 30 years ago. But thank you for the kind words! :D
 
#52
  1. Rapture (at any time)
  2. AC makes his way to power, having the answers (supposedly) needed (from the Ezek war?)
  3. AC signs deal with Israel for 7 years - that same day the Two Witnesses appear, temple begins to be built, or just prior
  4. Judgements begin worldwide
  5. 3.5 years in (1260 days) the Two Witnesses are killed, the AC does his thing in the rebuilt temple
  6. 3.5 days later they rise from the dead and return to heaven live on CNN
  7. 1260 days from their death the Lord returns to set up His 1000-year kingdom
That's how I see it. That's how I believe it.
Brethren sometimes how we want it to be is not always so. Seriously read the 3 passages I wrote before. I have many scriptures backing what is being said to u this day I'm not proudly boasting this will happen. When I first found out my heart was heavy. It was not good news all the way but the truth is the truth

As for major. You read and judge for your self who responded hastily towards the other for I did that man no harm neither did I call him any words. He asked me to show scripture proof of what I was saying and I didn't provide him one or two verses I showed passages upon passages of scripture. And he responded wildly towards me.

What I'm saying to u all is read what I posted. And think upon what is happening now. Don't be quick in your heart to say. Who is is man saying the world will end like this, for god is not a respect or of person he gives wisdom to whom he wants to. And I tell u not to brag or boast but I tell u for a surety The Lord god has given me wisdom concerning the manner of the latter end and the rapture and of the great and terrible day of The Lord
 
#53
  1. Rapture (at any time)
  2. AC makes his way to power, having the answers (supposedly) needed (from the Ezek war?)
  3. AC signs deal with Israel for 7 years - that same day the Two Witnesses appear, temple begins to be built, or just prior
  4. Judgements begin worldwide
  5. 3.5 years in (1260 days) the Two Witnesses are killed, the AC does his thing in the rebuilt temple
  6. 3.5 days later they rise from the dead and return to heaven live on CNN
  7. 1260 days from their death the Lord returns to set up His 1000-year kingdom
That's how I see it. That's how I believe it.
And as for this doctrine concerning the end brethren I tell you it's not correct before you come to me and say who am I to say what is correct or not know and understand.and if you do not believe the words spoken to u this day at least lay it up in your heart so when u see the matter unfold before your eyes u know what to do.

The the antochrist is here when the mark of the beast begins to bring forth around that same time the nations will place the abomination of the desolator. This period of time is 3 and a half years. This is also the time when the wheat shall beging to separate from the tares. For the saints shall be slain for the witness of Jesus.
Now after the days of the scattering around the same time the prophesy in Ezekiel 38 saying got will come up against Israel with Iran and Libya and many people with them. Around this same time the desolator will fall. The king of the north shall push at him and the south like a whirlwind at the time of the end

All these things are around the same time. For Jerusalem will go into captivity for 3 and a half years and the 2 anointed ones will prophesy for about 3 and a half Years

All these things will happen around the same time the mark of the beast is set forth.

Brethren if u don't believe then try these words look in the scriptures for your self.
 
#54
Don't listen to major saying the anti Christ will not be Muslims for he does not know what he is talking about. For god does not say what race or religion he will be all he says is what he will do and the god he will worship and all who have wisdom knows that all Muslims are anti Christ because they denied the death of Jesus.

But that's another topic
 
#58
Tell me? I do not understand I go on a Christian website speaking about gods word concerning the end first I get called arrogant and proud

Then I get warnings say have respect for others? As if I disrespect any of u? I even with held my self for your sake so u all can read and understand. If u don't believe at least lay it up in your heart so when it comes to pass U can know what it is to do yet u say I disrespect?

These are the fruits that you do that I just don't understand. How do u all really sit here and confess jesus while u treat another brethren in the faith like this?
 

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#59
The leader of the islamic state, he is the man and soon a mark will be set forth throughout all the world for his sake, and who ever does not take it shall be killed and who ever does shall lose his soul.

all who refuses his mark is the elect of the lord jesus christ.
this is the test from god, to seperate the true wheat from the tears.
for a hypocrite will not die for god, only they who truely love jesus will die for him.
This is where Major saw it.
 
#60
This is where Major saw it.
But why? That's the truth. I can show multiple scriptures that backs that interpretation to prove it true.
Why get offend or say I'm disrespectful

Will u say gods words is disrespectful as well? For I tell u in fact I will prove

Daniel 7
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Isaiah 57
1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.

2 He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness.

Daniel 11

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

And I got many more to show? Because I preach these verses I'm disrespectful are these scriptures disrespect ful as well?

I'm not try a to argue with you all but seriously do u read what u are saying to me.

If I said to u all since you where born a bastard(that is to say to be born of unmarked parents) u will enter into fire

Them u all have a reasonable cause against me
Or if I said if u don't wash your hands before u eat u are satans child
Then u could argue with me and accuse me

But u all are accusing me when I did no wrong to u. I have not called u any names neither have I did anything to any of u to find fault against me.

But that's not the topic of this thread. All I'm saying to u all is look in the scriptures and really pay attention to what god is saying for I tell u all that I said to u this day is the truth concerning the end of the world doctrine