Abomination Of Desolation

makes a lot of sense that it corresponds to the fourth trumpet in revelation 8:12 because the following three herald even worse events. That would fit an after rapture tribulation period.
 
i am a mid trib rapture believer, there is no logical or biblical solid foundation for a pre or after trib rapture. [tribulation referring to the whole 7 years, but for me it is two 31/2 year events, the tribulation of the saints and the wrath of God]
the trumpets appear to be telling of the nuclear war event while the bowls are outcomes.

OK with me! It is your choice.
 
makes a lot of sense that it corresponds to the fourth trumpet in revelation 8:12 because the following three herald even worse events. That would fit an after rapture tribulation period.
Ok. I'm a pre-tribber, mid-tribber and post-tribber... so :)
 
Yes, as the Goons once said, " Its all very confusing really......"


Mark 13:14. "But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mark 13:15. Let the one who is on the housetop not go down, nor enter his house, to take anything out,
Mark 13:16. and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak.
Mark 13:17 . And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days!
Mark 13:18. Pray that it may not happen in winter.

Mark 13:19. For in those days there will be such tribulation as has not been from the beginning of the creation that God created until now, and never will be. (sounds like the greatest time of tribulation ever)
Mark 13:20. And if the Lord had not cut short the days, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, whom he chose, he shortened the days. ( for the sake of the elect? sounds like the rapture is still up ahead somewhere)
Mark 13:21. And then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it.
Mark 13:22. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
Mark 13:23. But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.
Mark 13:24. "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,
Mark 13:25. and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
Mark 13:26 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.

Mark 13:27. And then he will send out the angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.
(Rapture at last)
As long as I'm going to be part of it, I don't much care when, just curious(y)
 
hi, I've written an ebook on revelation, but,
I'm still clarifying some things so I might pick your brains for answers.
The abomination of desolation.
i''m trying to decide weather its at the start of the tribulation 7 years
or at the mid-point.
Mat 24 seems to suggest at the start followed by the great trib
but since i'm tending to think the beast invades Israel to kill the two witnesses at the mid point
and then places the abomination.,
but since the abomination is a created image of the beast which kills people i'm more
inclined towards the start..
.but the created image is only done by the false prophet
after the beast has received a mortal wound, assissination attempt? so that's more likely
after the seven year peace deal is signed by UN president Obama in 2030?
[I made that last part up, did u like it? ha ha, It might be prophetic]
your input appreciated.

The abomination of desolation is not a neither 7 years or 3.5 years for the abomination of desolation is a man and is here.
The rule the destroyer will have will be for 3.5 years but his kingdom is not fully set up their fore the abomination of the desolator is not placed yet.

Here i will tell you of the true manner of the end.
The king of the north that shall seize mound and take most the fenced cities did and is doing as it is written in daniel 11 this same king is a king who didnt have a kingdom before. He who come against him shall do according to his own will and none shall stand before him. and as it is written of him so he did, and shall do. the raiser of taxes who shall be in the kingdom who shall not be destroyed neither in anger or in battle, as it was written of it so it did.

Then the despised one who shall not take the honor of the kingdom but shall turn and come in quietly who shall take the kingdoms by flatteries i tell you that man is here. but first you must understand.

Its not by peace of nations he shall take the kingdoms but by the preaching of peace to cause many to do his will, therefore he flattered them.
Now when the abomination of desolation is set at this same time will be the tribulation of the saints.

but the tribulation of the saints is not for 7 years behold its only for 3 and a half.
for during those days the elect shall not escape. for to whom it is appointed, they all shall be like sheeps lined up to be slaughtered.
all of the saints shall be killed during those days. this is the rapture and at the same time the trial. and jerusalem and egypt will go into captivity and many nations shall be overthrown by him

The leader of the islamic state, he is the man and soon a mark will be set forth throughout all the world for his sake, and who ever does not take it shall be killed and who ever does shall lose his soul.

all who refuses his mark is the elect of the lord jesus christ.
this is the test from god, to seperate the true wheat from the tears.
for a hypocrite will not die for god, only they who truely love jesus will die for him.

for it is written no greater love a man has for his friend save he give his life.
theirfore all who do not love christ will not give his life for christ..

this is the true end of the world and after the tribulation of the saints. the stars of heaven shall fall and the earth shall shake and move around like a drunkardman and the heavens shall depart like a scroll

if you do not believe then try the words spoken to this day in the scriptures. for the scriptures interpret it self by providing many proofs in different scriptures to prove a servents interpretation accurate or deceived
 
The abomination of desolation is not a neither 7 years or 3.5 years for the abomination of desolation is a man and is here.
The rule the destroyer will have will be for 3.5 years but his kingdom is not fully set up their fore the abomination of the desolator is not placed yet.

Here i will tell you of the true manner of the end.
The king of the north that shall seize mound and take most the fenced cities did and is doing as it is written in daniel 11 this same king is a king who didnt have a kingdom before. He who come against him shall do according to his own will and none shall stand before him. and as it is written of him so he did, and shall do. the raiser of taxes who shall be in the kingdom who shall not be destroyed neither in anger or in battle, as it was written of it so it did.

Then the despised one who shall not take the honor of the kingdom but shall turn and come in quietly who shall take the kingdoms by flatteries i tell you that man is here. but first you must understand.

Its not by peace of nations he shall take the kingdoms but by the preaching of peace to cause many to do his will, therefore he flattered them.
Now when the abomination of desolation is set at this same time will be the tribulation of the saints.

but the tribulation of the saints is not for 7 years behold its only for 3 and a half.
for during those days the elect shall not escape. for to whom it is appointed, they all shall be like sheeps lined up to be slaughtered.
all of the saints shall be killed during those days. this is the rapture and at the same time the trial. and jerusalem and egypt will go into captivity and many nations shall be overthrown by him

The leader of the islamic state, he is the man and soon a mark will be set forth throughout all the world for his sake, and who ever does not take it shall be killed and who ever does shall lose his soul.

all who refuses his mark is the elect of the lord jesus christ.
this is the test from god, to seperate the true wheat from the tears.
for a hypocrite will not die for god, only they who truely love jesus will die for him.

for it is written no greater love a man has for his friend save he give his life.
theirfore all who do not love christ will not give his life for christ..

this is the true end of the world and after the tribulation of the saints. the stars of heaven shall fall and the earth shall shake and move around like a drunkardman and the heavens shall depart like a scroll

if you do not believe then try the words spoken to this day in the scriptures. for the scriptures interpret it self by providing many proofs in different scriptures to prove a servents interpretation accurate or deceived

I for one would really appreciate you posting the Bible verses you are quoiting. Not for me personally but for the ones who read without commenting and are anting to learn. THEY need to know where you are coming from.

The Tribulation is a 7 year time frame BUT the Great Tribulation is the name for the last 3 1/2 years. So we agree.

What Bible verse are you using to believe that the A/C will be a Muslim?

Also, according to Rev. 13:12-18 it is the "False Prophet" who forces men to receive the mark of the Beast. Have you considered that in your teaching?
 
HA HA! Silly conspiracy theories make me laugh!...Oh wait...it's not a conspiracy if it is actually happening....

John P. Holdren

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/about/leadershipstaff/director

Dr. John P. Holdren is Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST). Prior to joining the Obama administration Dr. Holdren was Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy and Director of the Program on Science, Technology, and Public Policy at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, as well as professor in Harvard's Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences and Director of the independent, nonprofit Woods Hole Research Center. Previously he was on the faculty of the University of California, Berkeley, where he co-founded in 1973 and co-led until 1996 the interdisciplinary graduate-degree program in energy and resources. During the Clinton administration Dr. Holdren served as a member of PCAST through both terms and in that capacity chaired studies requested by President Clinton on preventing theft of nuclear materials, disposition of surplus weapon plutonium, the prospects of fusion energy, U.S. energy R&D strategy, and international cooperation on energy-technology innovation.

Dr. Holdren holds advanced degrees in aerospace engineering and theoretical plasma physics from MIT and Stanford. He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, as well as a foreign member of the Royal Society of London and former president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. He served as a member of the MacArthur Foundation’s Board of Trustees from 1991 to 2005, as Chair of the National Academy of Sciences Committee on International Security and Arms Control from 1994 to 2005, and as Co-Chair of the independent, bipartisan National Commission on Energy Policy from 2002 to 2009. His awards include a MacArthur Foundation Prize Fellowship, the John Heinz Prize in Public Policy, the Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement, and the Volvo Environment Prize. In December 1995 he gave the acceptance lecture for the Nobel Peace Prize on behalf of the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs, an international organization of scientists and public figures in which he held leadership positions from 1982 to 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren

Recent publications

Holdren at a commercial human spaceflight press conference, 2010

Holdren is the author of over 200 articles and papers, and he has co-authored and co-edited some 20 books and book-length reports, including:[22]

  • Science in the White House. Science, May 2009, 567.[3]
  • Policy for Energy Technology Innovation. Acting in Time on Energy Policy, (with Laura Diaz Anadon, Max H. Bazerman, David T. Ellwood, Kelly Sims Gallagher, William H. Hogan, Henry Lee, and Daniel Schrag), Brookings Institution Press, 2009.
  • The Future of Climate Change Policy: The U.S.'s Last Chance to Lead. Scientific American 2008 Earth 3.0 Supplement. October 13, 2008, 20-21.[23]
  • Convincing the Climate Change Skeptics. Boston Globe, August 4, 2008.[24]
  • Ending the Energy Stalemate: A Bipartisan Strategy To Meet America's Energy Challenges. Presentation at the National Academies 2008 Energy Summit, Washington, D.C., March 14, 2008.[25]
  • Global Climatic Disruption: Risks and Opportunities. Presentation at Investor Summit on Climate Risk, New York, February 14, 2008.[26]
  • Meeting the Climate-Change Challenge. The John H. Chafee Memorial Lecture, National Council for Science and the Environment, Washington, D.C., January 17, 2008.[27]
Early publications
Overpopulation was an early concern and interest. In a 1969 article, Holdren and co-author Paul R. Ehrlich argued, "if the population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come."[28] In 1973, Holdren encouraged a decline in fertility to well below replacement in the United States, because "210 million now is too many and 280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many."[29] In 1977, Paul R. Ehrlich, Anne H. Ehrlich, and Holdren co-authored the textbook Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment; they discussed the possible role of a wide variety of means to address overpopulation.[20][30][31]

Other early publications include Energy (1971), Human Ecology (1973), Energy in Transition (1980), Earth and the Human Future (1986), Strategic Defenses and the Future of the Arms Race (1987), Building Global Security Through Cooperation (1990), and Conversion of Military R&D (1998).[22]

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/10/23/1410465111

Human population reduction is not a quick fix for environmental problems
Corey J. A. Bradshaw and Barry W. Brook

Edited by Paul R. Ehrlich, Stanford University, Stanford, CA, and approved September 15, 2014 (received for review June 5, 2014)

Abstract
The inexorable demographic momentum of the global human population is rapidly eroding Earth’s life-support system. There are consequently more frequent calls to address environmental problems by advocating further reductions in human fertility. To examine how quickly this could lead to a smaller human population, we used scenario-based matrix modeling to project the global population to the year 2100. Assuming a continuation of current trends in mortality reduction, even a rapid transition to a worldwide one-child policy leads to a population similar to today’s by 2100. Even a catastrophic mass mortality event of 2 billion deaths over a hypothetical 5-y window in the mid-21st century would still yield around 8.5 billion people by 2100. In the absence of catastrophe or large fertility reductions (to fewer than two children per female worldwide), the greatest threats to ecosystems—as measured by regional projections within the 35 global Biodiversity Hotspots—indicate that Africa and South Asia will experience the greatest human pressures on future ecosystems. Humanity’s large demographic momentum means that there are no easy policy levers to change the size of the human population substantially over coming decades, short of extreme and rapid reductions in female fertility; it will take centuries, and the long-term target remains unclear. However, some reduction could be achieved by midcentury and lead to hundreds of millions fewer people to feed. More immediate results for sustainability would emerge from policies and technologies that reverse rising consumption of natural resources.

Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment
"Individual rights must be balanced against the power of the government to control human reproduction. Some people - respected legislators, judges, and lawyers included - have viewed the right to have children as a fundamental and inalienable right. Yet neither the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution mentions a right to reproduce. Nor does the UN Charter describe such a right, although a resolution of the United Nations affirms the "right responsibly to choose" the number and spacing of children (our emphasis).

In the United States, individuals have a constitutional right to privacy and it has been held that the right to privacy includes the right to choose whether or not to have children, at least to the extent that a woman has a right to choose not to have children. But the right is not unlimited. Where the society has a "compelling, subordinate interest" in regulating population size, the right of the individual may be eliminated." - p838[1]

"Should a Law of the Sea be successfully established, it could serve as a model for a future Law of the Atmosphere to regulate the use of airspace, to monitor climate change, and to control atmospheric pollution." - p943

"Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market.

The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits." - p943

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

United Nations Conference on Environment & Development

Rio de Janerio, Brazil, 3 to 14 June 1992

AGENDA 21

Agenda 21-Chapter 1

PREAMBLE

1.1.Humanity stands at a defining moment in history. We are confronted with a perpetuation of disparities between and within nations, a worsening of poverty, hunger, ill health and illiteracy, and the continuing deterioration of the ecosystems on which we depend for our well-being. However, integration of environment and development concerns and greater attention to them will lead to the fulfillment of basic needs, improved living standards for all, better protected and managed ecosystems and a safer, more prosperous future. No nation can achieve this on its own; but together we can-in a global partnership for sustainable development.
 
The Saints have spoken about the antiChrist over the years.
His mother will be an apostate Jewess,
he will be raised near Capernaum in Israel,
he will rise from nowhere to world prominence very quickly,
he will have knowledge of the locations of vast riches and will
easily charm the leaders of the world,
and last but not least, he will be able to perform false miracles to amaze
and astound the unwashed masses
 
The tribulation starts with the arrival of the Two Witnesses, who preach for 1260 days. The antichrist comes to power and over those days, tries to get rid of them. They torch anyone coming against them. However, the antichrist himself comes to them and kills them at the appointed time, declares himself God in the temple on Passover (my theory) upon which Jesus said to flee to the mountains for exactly 1260 days, when the abomination of desolation occurs. The Two Witnesses lay dead for 3.5 days and the world rejoices. Live on CNN. Then they come back to life and ascend into heaven. From the day they die, 1260 days later Jesus returns on the Feast of Trumpets. 1260+1260 = 7 years. From Passover to Feast of Trumpets, on a 30-day monthly calendar, is exactly 1260 days, or 42 months, or 3.5 years, or time, times, and half a time. The word "times" in this phrase, is the same word in Gen 1:14 where it says "seasons" but really means "appointed time." Even the devils know this, Mat 8:29. Just thought I'd throw that out there. There's no guesswork in God's word. We just have to read it all. FYI there's no "666" just so you know... which is why it can't be found. Night.
 
I for one would really appreciate you posting the Bible verses you are quoiting. Not for me personally but for the ones who read without commenting and are anting to learn. THEY need to know where you are coming from.

The Tribulation is a 7 year time frame BUT the Great Tribulation is the name for the last 3 1/2 years. So we agree.

What Bible verse are you using to believe that the A/C will be a Muslim?

Also, according to Rev. 13:12-18 it is the "False Prophet" who forces men to receive the mark of the Beast. Have you considered that in your teaching?

God has not revealed to me who the false prophet is as of yet. i speculate the false prophet can and possible be the same man as the abomination of desolation or 2 different men but. i just speak on what i know. for it is written we know in part and we prophesy in part.

but as for the scriptures, first i want to show you many scriptures from various books of the bible talking about how the rapture that is to come is the death of the saints.

Jeremiah

30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.

31 A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.

32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.

35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.

36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard: for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.


37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.

38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger.

As you read the lord is talking about the last days in these verses but pay attention to what he says concerning the shepards and the principal ones of the flock aka his pleasant vessel aka his holy people. Now read isaiah

Isaiah 57

1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.

2 He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness.

Now lets look at mathew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Now lets look at luke 17

33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.


Now lets look at job 39 see what god says concerning the way of the eagle

27 Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high?

28 She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place.

29 From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off.

30 Her young ones also suck up blood: and where the slain are, there is she.

Now pay close attention to these verses in revelations 6 and daniel 12 for revelations and daniel are two riddles and the both of them are one

revelations 6
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

daniel 12

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

(Daniel 12 verse one comes immediately after the desolator comes to a end in revelations, it may not make sense now after understand in daniel 11 is given you will understand)

Now i saved the best for last for Daniel chapters 7 8 and 11 tells all what the abomination of desolation will do.
It does not say whether he will be muslim or jew all it says is what he will do and The god who he will worship being a strange god(for all gods are strangers to christ)

low first read these scriptures then i will post the daniel 7 8 and 11 scriptures which talks of the rise and fall of the desolator.

if you notice i hardly put any words behind any of the scriptures which i posted. to lead you by interpretation for the scriptures interpret its self as you can see
 
Now i will show you the doctrine concerning the desolation in daniel and in revelations so read and understand with your heart.
Do not say in your heart how do you know the abomination of desolation will be muslim or jew or black or white or any naitonality or power for GOD does not clarify what false religion he shall be or what race he shall be all he speaks of what he shall do and the god who he shall worship.

Now low read and understand the words spoken to you this day.

Daniel chapter 2

28 But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;

29 As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh known to thee what shall come to pass.

30 But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

31 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.

32 This image’s head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,

33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.(remember the scriptures in psalms 118 that said "the stone which the builders refused has become the head of the corner this is the lords doing and is mighty in our eyes?)

35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.


42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.(do you remember the parable of the wheat and the tares? keep in mind that parable when reading this verse for iron is not mixed with clay and one is stronger than the other)

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Now The description of the 4th beast and last king of the kingdom that is a strong as iron

DANIEL CHAPTER 7
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.( the revelations speak of who will be casted alive into the lake of fire keep that in heart when reading this verse)

12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.(keep in mind the 1000 year reign)

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.

16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.( remember revelations chapter 6 right after the 5th seal aka the death of the saints the six one came immediately keep that in heart when reading verse 21 and 22 of this chapter)

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

understand all throughout the scriptures the lord is saying in the latter days the holy people are going to be killed. and he who is going to kill them is the last king of the fourth kingdom and immediately after all of the saints is killed to whom it is appointed. The great day of the lord shall be upon the earth that day of the great quake for god then has truely seperated the wheat from the tares.

Read this than i will post part 3 which is daniel 8 9 and 11 mixed with revelations
 


RISE AND FALL OF THE DESOLATOR


(Everything spoken to you this day is a straight out of the word of god king james version who ever has a heart to understand let him understand)

Daniel chapter 8

7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host(Definition a large number of people or things aka a army) was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.(remember the battle 300 movie? this was the war that that battle took place, this was the persian-greco war)

21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance(countenance means face), and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. (This is in parerel to many verses in the bible, isaiah 57, jeremiah 25, revelations 6, daniel 7, daniel 2, mathew 24, luke 17, revelations 13 and 20, for this is the king who will destroy the daily sacrifice and shall scatter the holy people. by his hand the wheat and the tares shall be seperated for they who believe on the lord christ that are written in the book of life he will kill)

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.( remember what revelations said about he who will be casted alive into the lake of fire? also who is his peace? The man i spoke of earlier today he preaches peace to his people to wag war. Listen to what abu bakr al baghdadi was preaching back in july watch the sermon carefully)

26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

Daniel chapter 9

Now god did not give me complete understand in daniel 9 but i speculate that he is either talking about the coming of jesus or the captivity of judah. for israel will go into captivity in the coming days. it shall even be the time of jacobs trouble spoken of by jeremiah the prophet

23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Now Daniel chapter 11 for this is the only chapter in the whole bible that speaks of the rise and fall of the little horn in full detail


14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.

15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.( arms mean weapon, What did the islamic state do? and is still doing?)

16 But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.

17 He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.

18 After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.(Now verses 16-18 either speaks of al malki or obama, because the isles are the nations and obama caused the coalition but al malki whole kingdom went to war with him so to me i just wait and see if obama fits the complete description)

19 Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.(al malki fell after he turned to his army but obama did not fall yet. so it can be obama and it probably was al malki)

20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.( The jizya tax was in iraq and it was destroyed not in anger nor in battle for it was not a person or it could be to come from if and after obama fall)

21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.(How did the isis leader take the kingdoms? he did no preach peace saying world peace but he preached peace concerning the doctrine that the muslims believe in LISTEN TO WHAT HE PREACHED.)

22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.(what is isis doing?)

23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.( peaceably as in safely for where ever their is peace their is safety low not his army but him)

25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.

26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.( his own people eats his meat, his own people of his own land which he rules shall destroy him)

27 And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.

28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.

30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.(Now is the death of the saints, Remember the revelations concerning the mark of the beast)

31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.(Remember the 42 months of the kingdom in revelations)

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.( What did daniel 12 say? the wise shall understand but the wicked shall not understand)

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.(This is the seperation of the wheat from the tares behold for the lord god tries his people and only his true people will lay down their life for their god)

36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.( that same god is spoken of in revelations even the devil him self for how shall they rule? remember revelations 13 which speaks of the mark of the beast)

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.(Overthrown definition Forcible remove from power, If how ye think he shall take the kingdoms with out any violents why then the lord says he shall forcible remove many nations? think and understand)


42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.(tidings means news)

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Read these scriptures carefully and pray the understanding of the heart is given to you concerning this matter.

then think about the islamic state and pay attention to what is going on

FOR I TELL YOU THE LEADER OF DAESH IS THE LITLE HORN
 

RISE AND FALL OF THE DESOLATOR


(Everything spoken to you this day is a straight out of the word of god king james version who ever has a heart to understand let him understand)

Daniel chapter 8

7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host(Definition a large number of people or things aka a army) was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.(remember the battle 300 movie? this was the war that that battle took place, this was the persian-greco war)

21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance(countenance means face), and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. (This is in parerel to many verses in the bible, isaiah 57, jeremiah 25, revelations 6, daniel 7, daniel 2, mathew 24, luke 17, revelations 13 and 20, for this is the king who will destroy the daily sacrifice and shall scatter the holy people. by his hand the wheat and the tares shall be seperated for they who believe on the lord christ that are written in the book of life he will kill)

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.( remember what revelations said about he who will be casted alive into the lake of fire? also who is his peace? The man i spoke of earlier today he preaches peace to his people to wag war. Listen to what abu bakr al baghdadi was preaching back in july watch the sermon carefully)

26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

Daniel chapter 9

Now god did not give me complete understand in daniel 9 but i speculate that he is either talking about the coming of jesus or the captivity of judah. for israel will go into captivity in the coming days. it shall even be the time of jacobs trouble spoken of by jeremiah the prophet

23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Now Daniel chapter 11 for this is the only chapter in the whole bible that speaks of the rise and fall of the little horn in full detail


14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.

15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.( arms mean weapon, What did the islamic state do? and is still doing?)

16 But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.

17 He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.

18 After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.(Now verses 16-18 either speaks of al malki or obama, because the isles are the nations and obama caused the coalition but al malki whole kingdom went to war with him so to me i just wait and see if obama fits the complete description)

19 Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.(al malki fell after he turned to his army but obama did not fall yet. so it can be obama and it probably was al malki)

20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.( The jizya tax was in iraq and it was destroyed not in anger nor in battle for it was not a person or it could be to come from if and after obama fall)

21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.(How did the isis leader take the kingdoms? he did no preach peace saying world peace but he preached peace concerning the doctrine that the muslims believe in LISTEN TO WHAT HE PREACHED.)

22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.(what is isis doing?)

23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.( peaceably as in safely for where ever their is peace their is safety low not his army but him)

25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.

26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.( his own people eats his meat, his own people of his own land which he rules shall destroy him)

27 And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.

28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.

30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.(Now is the death of the saints, Remember the revelations concerning the mark of the beast)

31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.(Remember the 42 months of the kingdom in revelations)

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.( What did daniel 12 say? the wise shall understand but the wicked shall not understand)

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.(This is the seperation of the wheat from the tares behold for the lord god tries his people and only his true people will lay down their life for their god)

36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.( that same god is spoken of in revelations even the devil him self for how shall they rule? remember revelations 13 which speaks of the mark of the beast)

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.(Overthrown definition Forcible remove from power, If how ye think he shall take the kingdoms with out any violents why then the lord says he shall forcible remove many nations? think and understand)


42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.(tidings means news)

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Read these scriptures carefully and pray the understanding of the heart is given to you concerning this matter.

then think about the islamic state and pay attention to what is going on

FOR I TELL YOU THE LEADER OF DAESH IS THE LITLE HORN

Are you kidding me???? YOUR arrogance is not appreciated neither is your pride. You are speaking with people on this site who are very educated and Biblically sound and it is obvious that you are not.

All of this is for what......to show me that you know how to copy and paste on a computer!

There is NOTHING in the Scriptures that say the A/C is going to be a Muslim and there are is going to be TWO beasts.

Rev. 13:1
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

This is the A/C, the son of perdition.

Rev. 13:11-12
"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

This is the "false prophet" who will lead the world to worship the A/C and take his mark.
 
The tribulation starts with the arrival of the Two Witnesses, who preach for 1260 days. The antichrist comes to power and over those days, tries to get rid of them. They torch anyone coming against them. However, the antichrist himself comes to them and kills them at the appointed time, declares himself God in the temple on Passover (my theory) upon which Jesus said to flee to the mountains for exactly 1260 days, when the abomination of desolation occurs. The Two Witnesses lay dead for 3.5 days and the world rejoices. Live on CNN. Then they come back to life and ascend into heaven. From the day they die, 1260 days later Jesus returns on the Feast of Trumpets. 1260+1260 = 7 years. From Passover to Feast of Trumpets, on a 30-day monthly calendar, is exactly 1260 days, or 42 months, or 3.5 years, or time, times, and half a time. The word "times" in this phrase, is the same word in Gen 1:14 where it says "seasons" but really means "appointed time." Even the devils know this, Mat 8:29. Just thought I'd throw that out there. There's no guesswork in God's word. We just have to read it all. FYI there's no "666" just so you know... which is why it can't be found. Night.

No arguments from me. But if the Tribulation starts with the arrival of the Two Witnesses, where do you place the 7 year Peace treaty, and the Rapture.

Also, there is something in Ezekiel 38 about a conflict with Gog and Magog.

According to Daniel 9:27 the so-called seven year tribulation, which is really Daniel’s 70th Week, will begin with a covenant enforced by the anti-Christ. Many believe this covenant will bring a brief period of peace to Israel following the battle of Ezekiel 38, Dan. 8:25 and 1 Thess. 5:3 all seem to be saying that to us.

Then to be a peace treaty, it seems that there must be a conflict hence Ezekiel 38.

How do they work into your formula?
 
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The tribulation starts with the arrival of the Two Witnesses, who preach for 1260 days. The antichrist comes to power and over those days, tries to get rid of them. They torch anyone coming against them. However, the antichrist himself comes to them and kills them at the appointed time, declares himself God in the temple on Passover (my theory) upon which Jesus said to flee to the mountains for exactly 1260 days, when the abomination of desolation occurs. The Two Witnesses lay dead for 3.5 days and the world rejoices. Live on CNN. Then they come back to life and ascend into heaven. From the day they die, 1260 days later Jesus returns on the Feast of Trumpets. 1260+1260 = 7 years. From Passover to Feast of Trumpets, on a 30-day monthly calendar, is exactly 1260 days, or 42 months, or 3.5 years, or time, times, and half a time. The word "times" in this phrase, is the same word in Gen 1:14 where it says "seasons" but really means "appointed time." Even the devils know this, Mat 8:29. Just thought I'd throw that out there. There's no guesswork in God's word. We just have to read it all. FYI there's no "666" just so you know... which is why it can't be found. Night.
Why do you think there is no 666 in Rev 13:18?
My Greek New Testament certainly has it... if you can accept that the digamma character has been mistaken by some as 'sigma'. digamma = 6,also known as stigna
sigma = 200
What source manuscript do you use?
Interesting point,but probably irrelevant, stigma is also a mark, but that word is much more recent that the original autograph.
 
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