Best Ear Piercing Method: Gun Or Needle?

Gun or needle, best ear piercing method?

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KingJ said:
Earrings for men is a rather clear-cut 'right and wrong' issue. Why be liberal on it? Is it the bible norm for Christian men to look like woman?
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KingJ:

I think you are using the word 'liberal' in a non-theological sense.

Even in Psalm 40:6, there is a Messianic reference to 'mine ears hast thou opened'; 'opened' = Hebrew, digged (i.e., pierced), an allusion to the bondservant whose ear was pierced when he chose to use his offered freedom in perpetual, willing service.
 
Jake said:
Yes that's why its important to get it done @ a licensed place. Those infections can get nasty if done the wrong way.
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Jake: Years ago moms would often use the needle and potato method!

It's probably a good idea to go to a tattoo/piercing parlor, though.

Blessings.
 
Banarenth said:
That would be silly Major, and you and I both know it. Remember, YOU believe that the Bible forbids it. Not everyone shares that interpretation.
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But that is the whole point Ban!

It does not matter what I think or you think. What matters is what God says. And is the issue really what "I" believe the Bible says? What does the Bible say.................

Leviticus chapter 19:28.............
"You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD."

I understand completely tthat God originally set aside the Jewish people as a “higher standard” among the pagan nations. Israel was the nation of humanity through whom the Messiah would come. As a result, many of their laws were given to wean them from pagan customs, habits, and appearance. I got that!

Romans is all about the fact that we are no longer under the Law.

Once the “ceremonial cleanliness” laws were done away with once Christ provided a new way to get right with God was in effect. Still, some laws were not ceremonial or fashionable in nature but rather civil and moral. Those laws are still valid and many of them were repeated often in the New Test.

The bottom line is that the Bible does not clearly define tattoos and body piercing as a sin. But having said that, isn't it our responsibility as Christains to be sensitive to what others perceive of us?

1 Cor. 10:21-23:........................
“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord's table and of the table of demons. Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He? All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.”

Paul is telling us that we are now free but we need to make right choices. Choices that glori8fy and edify the not only the church but that side with the Lord. Things that are not ordained by the Lord can be detrimental to your spiritual health and growth. With the influence of the world getting stronger, peer pressure on the young, it becomes harder and harder to do the right thing. Sometimes it can get very confusing between what is acceptable to man and to God and make a decision.

Many say body piercing is just like long hair was in the 60's. Longhair was a sign of rebellion against the establishment.
If this is an answer for the Christian, it fails. We are not to be rebelling against the establishment.
Second- hair grows naturally; it is not something foreign added to our body. We do not need to go to someone to grow our hair like we do to stick holes in our bodies.

As Christians we are not to be influenced by the world or its culture. The Bible teaches us “not to be conformed to this world” (Rom.12) and in 1 Cor. 6:12 Paul writes of our new freedom “All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.”
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/tattoos.shtml
 
Major: So even though you admit the Bible doesn't condemn ear piercing, you would take issue with most pastor's wives and daughters that have studs or rings in their earlobes?!
 
Banarenth said:
Let me sum something up. Right is right and wrong is wrong. The number of people that accept the rightness or wrongness of a thing is irrelevant. People do not get to decide what is universally right and wrong. To some extent, we can decide what is right and wrong for us in certain circumstances, but ultimately it is the Holy Spirit's task to reveal that to each of us. What He chooses to reveal to me is not automatically a universal truth. It CAN be, but it isn't always.

The problem with forcing our rights and wrong on other people is because too often, the Holy Spirit is completely left out of the equation. I'm not saying that anyone is doing that, but that is a very real danger with applying the Law to anyone other than yourself. Personally, I'd rather trust the Holy Spirit to convict. If we are talking with genuine brothers, then I think we can trust the Holy Spirit to work with their heart. If we are dealing with unbelievers, then we do them a disservice by applying the Law without first appealing to their heart.
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Ban..............
None of this, tattos or piercing would apply to the non-believer since those outside God’s directives do not care what the Lord says about this subject.
 
Major said:
Ban..............
None of this, tattos or piercing would apply to the non-believer since those outside God’s directives do not care what the Lord says about this subject.
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Major: You speak of 'directives'; for the New Testament believer under grace, the matter of whether to get ear piercings would surely come under Romans 14 Christian liberty?

Blessings.
 
farouk said:
Major: You speak of 'directives'; for the New Testament believer under grace, the matter of whether to get ear piercings would surely come under Romans 14 Christian liberty?

Blessings.
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Wow, that was fast.

Rom.14 –we are to obey government- unless they are specifically telling us not to obey God in a certain area.

It is a very difficult subject to speak about. All I can do is tell you of the history behind it and the directions God gave for His people. Again...........what I think does not matter at all.

This is now the acceptable way of rebellion or making a statement that you are not accepting the status quo.

For a Christian we have the Old Testament principle-

Deut. 14:1: “................
"You are the children of the LORD your God; you shall not cut yourselves."

Now my brother, please tell me what that means? I will tell you what it means historicaly and why God said it.

It was the priests of Baal that cut themselves for their God to react against Elijah. These were common practices in cultures that did not know God and served other gods. The practice of gashes on the face and arms and legs took place in time of bereavement, was universal among the pagans. It was used as respect for the dead; they would also mark themselves to some idol or god for service.

Then we have this thought.
1 Tim. 2:9-10:
“in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.”

We have an issue with modesty. To dress modestly means that the body should be adequately covered by clothing. We are not to draw attention to our self. Tattoos and body piercing draw attention to ones self, there may be many reasons but it’s usually about standing out.
 
farouk said:
Major: So even though you admit the Bible doesn't condemn ear piercing, you would take issue with most pastor's wives and daughters that have studs or rings in their earlobes?!
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My wife had pierced ears ,any years ago but as time went on and she read more and more of God's Word, she was conviced by the Holy Spirit and allowed those piercing to grow up. Now she wears clip on's if any at all. My daughter of 37 feels the same way. They made choices on how they believed the Word of God spoke to them.

The New Testament does directly address some prohibitions that were originally under the law (such as food and drink Rom.14) it does not address every pagan practice directly. In the New Covenant one can have the freedom to even eat meat sacrificed to an idol if necessary for their food, but we are to be sensitive to the brethren and not flaunt our freedom to stumble them. The real question on this matter is motive. Why does one want their body pierced or get a tattoo?

I mean, what is the point???

Some say getting a Scripture or a Christian type symbol like a cross is a witness. Really? You mean sitting in a bar drinking beer with a cross on the arm is a witness?? To whom???

Does the Lord need advertising on our body or does he need us to speak with our mouths? Is it for them to be accepted by others, even if it is to be a witness- what exactly is ones motivation and purpose? One must take this to the Lord by going to His word and be totally convinced in their own conscience what they are about to do. Because one often cannot reverse this once it is done.
 
Major: Well, you guys are entitled to your own opinions, of course.

But even the Lord Himself is recorded as giving earrings to Zion in Ezekiel 16:12 (and, yes, even a nose ring).

Blessings.
 
I chose needle as that is how mine was done. Honestly don't know if the gun is better.
I actually haven't worn anything in it since I was 17, and it has long since closed.
 
Stan said:
I chose needle as that is how mine was done. Honestly don't know if the gun is better.
I actually haven't worn anything in it since I was 17, and it has long since closed.
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Stan: Okay; ty for your personal impression!

Blessings.
 
farouk said:
Stan:

Interesting questions. :)

PS: I guess you did one ear only, not both.

Blessings.
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Well actually my girlfriend at the time did it and yes only one ear. My middle son has both ears done and he wears big cubic zirconium studs. My daughetr has pierced ears but my other two sons don't.
 
Stan said:
Well actually my girlfriend at the time did it and yes only one ear. My middle son has both ears done and he wears big cubic zirconium studs. My daughetr has pierced ears but my other two sons don't.
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Stan: Seems to be the custom for men to do both ears now, anyway (if they do it at all).

Blessings.
 
Rusty said:
I understand your point...but what do you do with these Christians?
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We just need to use some common sense Rusty. We can be more lenient on guys in kilts as it was tradition back in the day. A man with ears pierced in modern society different story. It speaks of rebellion. Its not even a matter of what the scriptures say, rather just using our God given brains and eyes to discern. I don't witness with it and nor do my elders.

My one elder has many tattoos and whenever he preaches he acknowledges it was of his prior life of rebellion. A state of no respect for his body being the temple of God. Tattoos and piercings are us making our bodies our temple. I am not against woman getting their ears pierced moderately (two or three), but men...I will discipline my son hard if he even thinks it :).
 
Stan said:
ONE: What DOES the Bible say about it?
TWO: Why is it LIBERAL?
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On earrings for men I use 1 Cor 6:3. Excessive earrings and any tattoos 1 Cor 6:19-20.

It bothers me that if I got my ears pierced I would trade earrings with my wife, sister, mother and grandmother. My brothers, father and all my grandfathers never wore them. I would be the first in my lineage. What about you Stan, are you the first in your lineage?
 
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