Aint that the truth!
DEATH PENALTY
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Obviously, when it comes to going against what God has commanded, then we are to obey God rather than man.
Agreed, but without much thinking... just God's Word.
I 'think' some over think or over feel the issue, without resorting to God's Word.
Amen!
OK with me !
I did not like or agree with your comments......but I do not put you on ignore. What I post is always validated by the Word of God!
You are creating a two-tiered system of justice.
Do YOU support a Federal Law for the death penalty for Police killers?
Dear brothers and sisters, we seem to have wandered far afield from the original question, as often happens.However, after a reading of the posts, it seems there are differing opinions on this issue.
I believe that people of good faith and conscience can have differing opinions. Let’s all endeavor to allow and respect this, and let’s be kind to each other.
I am not trying to do that. I am just saying that the purposeful murder of a policeman is a heinous crime. I do not mean to say he/they are more important than anyone else....However the uniform they wear represents ALL the people of the city. So in a way, when one is murdered ONLY because he is a police officer, isn't that the murder of ALL the people????
And I would commend you highly for that kind of service!
I can also say to you that the men who do the fighting in war hate every second of what they do as well!
I appreciate your position. We agree that all murder is heinous but I must disagree with the rest. It seems your argument is less about the murder of the policeman and more about disrespecting the governing power. In this case we should apply this reasoning to the murder of any government employee in the course of their duties, not just policemen.
If that is your perception, then I have in some why misrepresented my opinion as that is NOT what I meant.
IMHO.....the uniformed policeman represents the people. He works for the city but the people are who he protects. He is the one on the fireing line.
It has become painfully obvious in cities across the United States, police officers are vital for maintaining a well-functioning, safe society. Those cities that DEFUNDED the police saw their crime rates soar and now have gone back and increased the funding for their police.
For example, the Los Angeles City Council agreed to cut its police department budget by $150 million in 2020. Just one year later, the LAPD's budget has increased by 3 percent, and the city's police commission is asking for $213 million more for the fiscal year ending in 2023.
The LIBERAL media, after painting the police as nothing less than evil white supremacists, and then coupling that imagery with soft-on-crime policies, it's easy to see why violent people would think killing police officers for doing nothing more than sitting quietly in a cop car is justified.
However, THE ONLY thing that prevents anarchy in the USA is the POLICEMAN! When he is gone......We are done.
The man who will plan, ambush a police officer today, has not problem walking into your house tomarrow, and killing your entire family. That is my ONLY POINT here.
Hi Major, I agree with everything you say, especially about the libera media. And I also agree anybody who plans the murder of a police officer just for sitting in his squad car is unforgivable and should deserve harsh punishment. However, I just feel that the murder of police shouldn't be any different from the murder of a civilian. Both are despicable and deserve punishment. It's just that one shouldn't be elevated above the other, is all.
Please understand......I am only giving my opinions. I do that because I am coming from a father of a policeman.
I completely agree and I am 100% in favor of capital punishment for murder of any person when they are found guilty and their appeals are finished.
As A Biblicist, I can attest that there is NO opposition in the Bible against capital punishment. In fact it is just the opposite!
My only point with the murder of policemen is that their judgment be Execution and not prison time AFTER all the appeals are done.
Thanks for your input!
Robin, I respect your opinion. We all have them and yours is just important as mine.
Consider
Why did Jesus command his disciples to buy swords in Luke 22:38?
"Now, however,” He told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one".
If that is not a call for self defense, what do you think that it is?
You asked...........
"Would the Good Shepherd, who cares for his sheep, use one of his children to kill another human being?"
Consider 1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
This was a message from the Prophet of Israel to the political and military leader of Israel. The message was clear:
punish Amalek for what he did to Israel…. utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them.
God clearly told Samuel to tell Saul to KILL ALL the Amalekites.
Utterly destroy: This Hebrew verb (heherim) and is used seven times in this account. The idea of total, complete judgment is certainly stressed. Now WHY did God remove Saul as the king of Israel???????????
He did not KILL ALL OF THE AMALEKITES!
Then there is NUMBERS 21:3 .......
"The Lord gave the Canaanites over to Israel, who "completely destroyed them and their towns."
This was a conflict of Judgment and the Hebrew word means UTTERLY DESTROY!
What about NUMBERS 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and "kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
Now............what do YOU now think?????
This reply does not answer the question you asked of....."Did God ever tell men to kill ".
That was why I posted the scriptures in Samuel and Numbers and there are others. NONE of those are about self defence but instead they are command from God to men to kill men becauase it was the judgment of God on those men.
You copied and pasted someones commentary from a website but it did not correspond to the topic YOU proposed.
There are many others such as Jericho for example.
Blessings to you and be safe!
Since Robin has me on IGNORE cause I disagreed with him, I did not want others to think I made a post that was out of line but instead was responding to one of his posts.
In post 383, Robin stated.............
"Would the Good Shepherd, who cares for his sheep, use one of his children to kill another human being? I don't think he would.
In response to that I listed the LITERAL Scriptures which say the very OPPOSITE............
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Consider 1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
This was a message from the Prophet of Israel to the political and military leader of Israel. The message was clear:
punish Amalek for what he did to Israel…. utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them.
God clearly told Samuel to tell Saul to KILL ALL the Amalekites.
Utterly destroy: This Hebrew verb (heherim) and is used seven times in this account. The idea of total, complete judgment is certainly stressed. Now WHY did God remove Saul as the king of Israel???????????
He did not KILL ALL OF THE AMALEKITES!
Then there is NUMBERS 21:3 .......
"The Lord gave the Canaanites over to Israel, who "completely destroyed them and their towns."
This was a conflict of Judgment and the Hebrew word means UTTERLY DESTROY!
What about NUMBERS 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and "kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
Murderers of any kind, regardless of victim identity need to be carefully evaluated to determine whether the killer is a predator or not. Predators should be executed; they are natural hunters and killers of human beings just as animal predators hunt and kill other animals. Predators include professional hit men, organized criminals, sociopathic and psychopathic serial killers, anyone who kills more than once, such as convicted killers on parole.
Agreed.