This same member asked to be removed last week, and when was politely asked to show where he was accused of being of the devil replied with sarcasm and rudeness. I stand behind not supporting any movement where people bark like dogs, convulse, or kick people in the face when they are at the altar, which Todd Bentley has done before. Discernment is needed here.
Drunk In The Spirit Biblical?
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I think we need to stop and think about the fact that all who are Pentecostals and all who are Charismatic do not believe or think or do the same things! There are as many differing beliefs and actions among them as there are Baptist churches, and like Baptist churches, many would denounce some of the actions done by others as atrocious.
Look gone..what has happened on this thread has been an attack on the Holy Spirit by trying to relate any spiritual manifestation with those of this kundilini crap and other such nonsense. I know you guys can expose the false in such a way as to not speak against the true, if you desire to do so? Now I have not seen any attack by you but if your read the post on this thread you will understand what I am saying?
I understand what you're saying, don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
I also do not believe in barking like a dog or any other weird stuff, but I do get beside myself when the Spirit of God is upon me which most of the time. The Holy Spirit and I are best of friends, we get along just fine, because we are intimate with each other. I am not a member of any man made denomination, and continually rejoice in my freedom to express his influence in my life. 
I will not claim to have any special or intimate knowledge of the H Spirit, but I know that:
Oh, I am running around and around what I am trying to say, because it is so hard to say it. As much as I despise the circus some have made and tried to attach to the H Spirit, and my proclamation that the word translated "tongues" in the Bible really just means languages but the more modern church has messed that up, I feel like I am being dishonest. I should admit that I spoke in what is commonly called "tongues" once. Once. Just once. And it was in the church I was soon kicked out of.
It was the last night the pastor was going to be there -- the pastor who was removed because of certain members' gossip. That Pentecostal church believed in speaking in tongues, and most of us were really hurting over the loss of a beloved pastor. I only spoke what may be thought of as a couple sentences, then I clamped my mouth shut and left.
I don't understand to this day what happened or why, because I did not want to do that. At all.
Within two weeks after that pastor was removed because of the meanness and gossip of what I like to call the Triple Trinity -- a group of nine in a congregation of a little over 200 -- the number of attendees dropped to 75. Within a year, it was down to @45. For several years, there were 20-25 there. The church has been closed and for sale for around a year. And as far as I know, the Triple Trinity is still clueless.
- He has appeared as though a dove
- He is not, never, ever an "it"
- He is written in the Bible as though of the male gender because He is of G-d who is also written in the Bible as though of the male gender because Messiah was of the male gender, IS of the male gender, and will always be male
- . . . and there's a lot more.
Oh, I am running around and around what I am trying to say, because it is so hard to say it. As much as I despise the circus some have made and tried to attach to the H Spirit, and my proclamation that the word translated "tongues" in the Bible really just means languages but the more modern church has messed that up, I feel like I am being dishonest. I should admit that I spoke in what is commonly called "tongues" once. Once. Just once. And it was in the church I was soon kicked out of.
It was the last night the pastor was going to be there -- the pastor who was removed because of certain members' gossip. That Pentecostal church believed in speaking in tongues, and most of us were really hurting over the loss of a beloved pastor. I only spoke what may be thought of as a couple sentences, then I clamped my mouth shut and left.
I don't understand to this day what happened or why, because I did not want to do that. At all.
Within two weeks after that pastor was removed because of the meanness and gossip of what I like to call the Triple Trinity -- a group of nine in a congregation of a little over 200 -- the number of attendees dropped to 75. Within a year, it was down to @45. For several years, there were 20-25 there. The church has been closed and for sale for around a year. And as far as I know, the Triple Trinity is still clueless.
Is it possible to have God Himself living inside his child and they not being able to know him intimately? Keeping His Word and believing it causes this relationship to grow to where we can say he is my best friend and God.
Joh 14:21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."
Notice, how Jesus loves us, by revealing himself to us.
Remember, truth is not found or held by the majority, but the few. Wide is the road that leads to death, but narrow is the road that leads to life, and very few will ever find it.
Let's say millions, wouldn't you agree that is few compared to 7 billion souls on the planet today?
If there were 1 hundred million born again believers that is only .015 % of the earths population, ...come on bro, let's uses some common sense.
And this isn't spoken in condemnation, but as an exhortation in LOVE to those that say they don't go to church, they don't feel they need to be a part of the local body of Christ,
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. Heb 10:25
Remember, I'm asking this in love, ...how can you expect me, or others to believe you, to have any credence in your words, that you have a intimate, close relationship with the Holy Spirit when you are in rebellion to what He has commanded?
In His Love,
Gene
What are we doing here on this forum? Is this not gathering together? I think your understanding about the two roads is not correct. Those in the world are not on any road has they are already belong to the Devil. We are talking about those who call themselves believers. Not all who call themselves believers and members of a Church belong to God. They are the ones on the "wide" road that leads to death. Only the redeemed are allowed to walk on the narrow road that leads to His throne today.
Isa 35:8 And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness; it will be for those who walk on that Way. The unclean will not journey on it; wicked fools will not go about on it.
Isa 35:9 No lion will be there, nor any ravenous beast; they will not be found there. But only the redeemed will walk there,
No, it was more like 2 years. Not that anyone here is worried about that, but i just want to be honest.
Why didn't you answer my question?
When two or more are gathered in My name, and one of His names is Logos, and as you remember it was the Logos, that became flesh and dwelt among us, so when we are gathered together, outside of the local church body where He has placed us, yes, He is there with us, but because we have taken on His name, because we are using His name, we must careful and prudent to be faithful to His Word in verity, truth and integrity, but that coming together or meeting together in home fellowship groups or in pray groups or just fellowshipping one on one over a Whopper and fries,... always ends with our return to fellowship in the body in which we are a part of, ...stray body parts detached from the Head of the Body will not survive long, just like lone sheep are eaten by wolves, why do you think Jesus and Paul were speaking metaphorically, ...for us to understand how the Church works by what we are familiar with in our own lives..
I think you will agree that we learn from His teaching of Rev 1:12, 13, 20 that it is Jesus that establishes His church and any that do not enter by the door are thieves and robbers, John 10:1, 2, 7, so to try and claim that an internet site without any pastoral authority over it appointed by Jesus Eph 4:11 is a church of the Lord Jesus Christ is pure fantasy and it will be revealed as such at His Bema Seat judgement (and I'm sure the owner of this site will agree with me, it is not his intention for this site to be consider a church).
Now please, I have complete and absolute confidence and credence in the Word, so before you copy and paste more Scripture, just answer the question I have presented to you so that I/we can have confidence and credence in what you say, ...unless you are in disagreement with Isa 8:20, Acts 17:11 and 1 Thess 5:21 and count them nonessential.
In His Love,
Gene
I have seen no rebellious action on this mans part, but I have seen this in those who continue to speak evil of the Holy Spirit and Gods people.
His Name is Jesus and we are not called to fellowship with the walking dead.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit
1Co 14:15 ¶ What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
Hello, I think it's maybe the terms that put people off like drunk or slain, not really a good explanation for what it feels like to be overwhelmed by God's Spirit. I'd have to agree with the individual who said what it felt like, it is overwhelming, an experience of having let go completely and our emotions just fall flat. I've been touched by the Spirit on a few occasions and lying on the ground, I could only describe it as being at such peace, fully in control and knowing that you could stop it at any time but feeling like you wouldn't want it to stop. It is a tremendous experience. I teach a balanced Christian teaching, that sometimes we have to live in faith and trust the Lord and other times, experiencing him on very deep levels and we need both as Christians to grow in him.
All manifestations of the Spirit would never contradict the will, nature or Word of God in that it would ALWAYS be peaceable, testing the spirits as we go. Don't miss out on the greater experiences of God because much of the time, they are there for the taking!
All manifestations of the Spirit would never contradict the will, nature or Word of God in that it would ALWAYS be peaceable, testing the spirits as we go. Don't miss out on the greater experiences of God because much of the time, they are there for the taking!
How would you like it if folks told you these things are of the devil? And called this the work of satan? It might offend you a little? And of course you would know that person was not speaking the truth but blasphemy against the things of God.
I think that is an excellent point Mitspa, I think when the unforgivable sin is calling the work of the Spirit the work of darkness, we're treading a thin line.
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