Relentless seems to be quite clued in here. I will ramble a bit, as per my Lord.
But...
The bad news is,
Typically, with OP's like this, most folks ask, what's to discuss -- other than to commiserate about the pickle we're in? Well, yes, there is hope -- IF we REPENT, God will restore, and he will heal our land. That’s all it would take. Let’s say, the people at USA or where-have-you take one day off, just one day, from the president/”prime minister” all the way down to the street sweeper, we all agree to take just one day off and repent. How likely do you think that is gonna happen? Well, then, you’d better prepare for the coming persecution, because it is even now at the door.
Make no mistake, God’s judgment is about to fall on the children of disobedience. Do not be found among them.
If your reaction to being told that there are faults in Caesar's statutes is to rush to defend them, it is because you cannot envision life without them. This is normal for someone who can only see one kingdom: the kingdom of this world. Yet this world is passing away, as are our own bodies. There is only one thing in life more certain than Caesar's taxes. So we are really here as a test of whether we can “see” and then choose those things that have eternal value. Are our energies devoted to laying up earthly treasures, or treasures in heaven? Are we slaves devoted to building the kingdom of this world, or are we seeking first the kingdom of God? We cannot even know where to begin unless we can see God's kingdom, which is the true meaning of being born again.
God in his sovereignty has provided the perfect means of testing whether we can make the distinction between the two kingdoms. Caesar has usurped God's authority, but his kingdom is built entirely with our consent and by using legal fictions. His authority over us is imaginary. We do not have to render ourselves to him unless we believe that we belong to him. Most people believe with all their heart that they do, for they cannot see the alternative. But if you know that you belong to God, along with your labor, your family, and everything else you have, then you will already have a deep-seated unease with the multitude of demands Caesar makes on you.
If this is the case, then make a list of those things that rightly belong to God but you have in ignorance given to Caesar. Then develop a plan of action for returning them to their rightful owner. This is not easy, but it is necessary. You will need to learn much more about God's Law so that you can discern what true obedience requires of you. If you trust the State to provide for your needs rather than trusting God, it should be clear which master you are serving. As no man can serve two masters, you have a choice to make. Scripture is clear that obedience to God comes at a price, and we must first count the cost. But once you can see the eternal kingdom, you will realize that any price is worth it.
Matthew 13:44, "The kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.”
Anyone who engages in commerce (profiteering; pursuit of mammon) comes under Caesar's jurisdiction (“Caesar” = ungodly government). The merchants, the rich men of the earth, the great men of the earth, are identified with the ungodly authority:
“The kings set themselves, and the rulers take counsel against the Lord and his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us” (Psalm 2:2, 3).
and
“Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.... Lord, behold their threatenings...” (Acts 4:25, 26, 29).
and
“Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off” (Hosea 8:3, 4).
Yet, many stumble with the reality that there is a counterfeit “authority” seeking our obeisance. Satan said, “I will be like the most High” (Isaiah 14:14).
It is Satan’s “higher power” that is behind the merchants, the rich men of the earth, the present temporal “governing authorities.” Satan is “the god of this world” (II Corinthians 4:4), “this present evil world” (Galatians 1:4); there is no Godly ordination there.
We have a choice as to which purported authority we submit to and therefore “serve.” God’s authority is above all the “government institutions” of men.
Why does God “allow” ungodly “governments?” What is the purpose of man's law? It is God's rod of correction. God uses man's law to chasten his people. God uses heathens to chasten his people.
I have yet to meet anyone who actually enjoys gov’t jack-booted thugs storming their castle to take them to “indefinite detention,” forced vac’s, or worse. So GET OUT OF DODGE and come over to where the yoke is easy and the burden is light. Come out from among them and be separate. Touch not the unclean thing.
We are to place ourselves under God's jurisdiction, living in God's kingdom. And we're not going to be perfect, we may fall and do wrong, but we are to check everything that we're doing. And if we do something that's against God's Word, we repent immediately to renew our mind. That's how we renew our mind, by repenting to the King and saying, "I'm sorry. I did not want to do that. It's a habit, it's the way that I learned in the world. Help break me of that." And he does help us if our heart is truly after him. And if you don't repent, he has the natural man right there as a rod of correction for you, and that's what man's codes, rules and regulations and police power are all about.
If we be without chastisement, we would not be his sons. But he loves us, so God uses a rod of correction to wake the sleeping disciple and get him back on course.
Proverbs 22:15, "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."
Proverbs 23:13, "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."
The time for the rod of correction would be passed. The time for repentance and restoration is now.
Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions. Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance. And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them. Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjection under their hand. Many times did he deliver them; but they provoked him with their counsel, and were brought low for their iniquity. Nevertheless he regarded their affliction, when he heard their cry: And he remembered for them his covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his mercies. He made them also to be pitied of all those that carried them captives. Save us, O LORD our God, and gather us from among the heathen, to give thanks unto thy holy name, and to triumph in thy praise. Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Basically, you’re saying that it’s too far down the debt-ridden road for most to begin reclaiming their freedom. Well, IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Do not continue throwing good money after bad! The King will honor your good-faith action to DO THE RIGHT THING.
How serious are you about wanting to be set free? Most don’t even discern that they are slaves to Caesar! Jesus Christ came to set the captives free!
You’re busily rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and you don’t like it. And the hurt is going to get worse, as per design.
One option is to go ahead and declare bankruptcy. It’s no big deal in Caesar’s world; it’s “just business.” Point: Do what you can, NOW, to get out from under the debt burden. Any money and effort spent NOW will pay off big time later. Yes, you will probably have to accept a lower (more realistic) standard of living. So what? Do you want to be free? Or must you have that remote, creamed coffee and picket fence?
How many here have done that? Seriously? I’m not talking about hedging your bets, keeping the credit (debt) cards and mortgage, while asking God to bless your little misadventures into bondage. Start living WITHIN your means, and do it NOW.
It takes love to stand for the truth. There is nothing but love motivating this post. I have been shown much about what is happening, and what will happen soon. Please, hear me out.
Folks, there is to be no fear in any of this. God specifically says he has not given his people the spirit of fear -- fear is one of satan’s boys. Rather God has given his people the spirits of love, and of power, and of a sound mind. Are you one of God’s people??? But I love you and I don’t want to see you go the bad way! It breaks my heart to have to even post in this place. There are only a few here who are truly born again. I know that, because scripture tells us that. The path to destruction is broad, and the majority travel it.
I have been in some very hairy situations; my wife and I have seen the King move mountains. This game is for real, and we need to be playing it HIS way -- not our own way.
That’s spot on, 100%! God always gives us hope.
But...
The bad news is,
Typically, with OP's like this, most folks ask, what's to discuss -- other than to commiserate about the pickle we're in? Well, yes, there is hope -- IF we REPENT, God will restore, and he will heal our land. That’s all it would take. Let’s say, the people at USA or where-have-you take one day off, just one day, from the president/”prime minister” all the way down to the street sweeper, we all agree to take just one day off and repent. How likely do you think that is gonna happen? Well, then, you’d better prepare for the coming persecution, because it is even now at the door.
Make no mistake, God’s judgment is about to fall on the children of disobedience. Do not be found among them.
If your reaction to being told that there are faults in Caesar's statutes is to rush to defend them, it is because you cannot envision life without them. This is normal for someone who can only see one kingdom: the kingdom of this world. Yet this world is passing away, as are our own bodies. There is only one thing in life more certain than Caesar's taxes. So we are really here as a test of whether we can “see” and then choose those things that have eternal value. Are our energies devoted to laying up earthly treasures, or treasures in heaven? Are we slaves devoted to building the kingdom of this world, or are we seeking first the kingdom of God? We cannot even know where to begin unless we can see God's kingdom, which is the true meaning of being born again.
God in his sovereignty has provided the perfect means of testing whether we can make the distinction between the two kingdoms. Caesar has usurped God's authority, but his kingdom is built entirely with our consent and by using legal fictions. His authority over us is imaginary. We do not have to render ourselves to him unless we believe that we belong to him. Most people believe with all their heart that they do, for they cannot see the alternative. But if you know that you belong to God, along with your labor, your family, and everything else you have, then you will already have a deep-seated unease with the multitude of demands Caesar makes on you.
If this is the case, then make a list of those things that rightly belong to God but you have in ignorance given to Caesar. Then develop a plan of action for returning them to their rightful owner. This is not easy, but it is necessary. You will need to learn much more about God's Law so that you can discern what true obedience requires of you. If you trust the State to provide for your needs rather than trusting God, it should be clear which master you are serving. As no man can serve two masters, you have a choice to make. Scripture is clear that obedience to God comes at a price, and we must first count the cost. But once you can see the eternal kingdom, you will realize that any price is worth it.
Matthew 13:44, "The kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.”
Anyone who engages in commerce (profiteering; pursuit of mammon) comes under Caesar's jurisdiction (“Caesar” = ungodly government). The merchants, the rich men of the earth, the great men of the earth, are identified with the ungodly authority:
“The kings set themselves, and the rulers take counsel against the Lord and his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us” (Psalm 2:2, 3).
and
“Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.... Lord, behold their threatenings...” (Acts 4:25, 26, 29).
and
“Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off” (Hosea 8:3, 4).
Yet, many stumble with the reality that there is a counterfeit “authority” seeking our obeisance. Satan said, “I will be like the most High” (Isaiah 14:14).
It is Satan’s “higher power” that is behind the merchants, the rich men of the earth, the present temporal “governing authorities.” Satan is “the god of this world” (II Corinthians 4:4), “this present evil world” (Galatians 1:4); there is no Godly ordination there.
We have a choice as to which purported authority we submit to and therefore “serve.” God’s authority is above all the “government institutions” of men.
Why does God “allow” ungodly “governments?” What is the purpose of man's law? It is God's rod of correction. God uses man's law to chasten his people. God uses heathens to chasten his people.
I have yet to meet anyone who actually enjoys gov’t jack-booted thugs storming their castle to take them to “indefinite detention,” forced vac’s, or worse. So GET OUT OF DODGE and come over to where the yoke is easy and the burden is light. Come out from among them and be separate. Touch not the unclean thing.
We are to place ourselves under God's jurisdiction, living in God's kingdom. And we're not going to be perfect, we may fall and do wrong, but we are to check everything that we're doing. And if we do something that's against God's Word, we repent immediately to renew our mind. That's how we renew our mind, by repenting to the King and saying, "I'm sorry. I did not want to do that. It's a habit, it's the way that I learned in the world. Help break me of that." And he does help us if our heart is truly after him. And if you don't repent, he has the natural man right there as a rod of correction for you, and that's what man's codes, rules and regulations and police power are all about.
If we be without chastisement, we would not be his sons. But he loves us, so God uses a rod of correction to wake the sleeping disciple and get him back on course.
Proverbs 22:15, "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."
Proverbs 23:13, "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."
The time for the rod of correction would be passed. The time for repentance and restoration is now.
Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions. Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance. And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them. Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjection under their hand. Many times did he deliver them; but they provoked him with their counsel, and were brought low for their iniquity. Nevertheless he regarded their affliction, when he heard their cry: And he remembered for them his covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his mercies. He made them also to be pitied of all those that carried them captives. Save us, O LORD our God, and gather us from among the heathen, to give thanks unto thy holy name, and to triumph in thy praise. Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
It has happened to me. Example: I was sojourning “off the grid” for 7+ years. My new wife commented that we did not have any bread (we had never gone hungry, we had other foods, but we had been specifically bread-less for quite some time). Moments later, I walked out to the public payphone to contact a potential source of provision, when I looked down to see a plastic bag on the sidewalk. I opened it and inside were two fresh loaves of organic bread -- the only kind we eat. I looked left and right but the street was empty. I held up the bag and praised the Lord!
Mind control could have its own thread. There aren’t enough of these satanists to run the whole place, so they try to get us to do it to ourselves. When was the last time you jumped the chain of command and “called the cops” on someone, rather than go and talk to them yourself first?
Yes, that is their plan: get rid of what Hitler called “useless eaters.”
If you have any resources left, then it is not too late to liquidate and get out of debt, NOW. Get free from that leverage, that bondage.
Basically, you’re saying that it’s too far down the debt-ridden road for most to begin reclaiming their freedom. Well, IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Do not continue throwing good money after bad! The King will honor your good-faith action to DO THE RIGHT THING.
If your faith is in your retirement funds, then you deserve what is about to happen to them. You get my point. Like, who needs insurance when we have assurance, from our Father? I’ve never had insurance in my life. What a waste of provision!
Again, stop throwing good money after bad. Where’s your faith?
You borrowed money from the bankers (a sin), and paid the bankers usury/interest on it (a sin).
How serious are you about wanting to be set free? Most don’t even discern that they are slaves to Caesar! Jesus Christ came to set the captives free!
You’re busily rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and you don’t like it. And the hurt is going to get worse, as per design.
One option is to go ahead and declare bankruptcy. It’s no big deal in Caesar’s world; it’s “just business.” Point: Do what you can, NOW, to get out from under the debt burden. Any money and effort spent NOW will pay off big time later. Yes, you will probably have to accept a lower (more realistic) standard of living. So what? Do you want to be free? Or must you have that remote, creamed coffee and picket fence?
BINGO!
How many here have done that? Seriously? I’m not talking about hedging your bets, keeping the credit (debt) cards and mortgage, while asking God to bless your little misadventures into bondage. Start living WITHIN your means, and do it NOW.
It takes love to stand for the truth. There is nothing but love motivating this post. I have been shown much about what is happening, and what will happen soon. Please, hear me out.
Amen!
Yes, but HOW MANY ARE SEEKING HIM?
Amen.
Amen.
Well, now I come to the meat of MY preparations. The Lord told me, among other things, that I am to bring the body of Christ together in COMMUNITY. We must forgive and focus on the bigger picture. We must be willing to LAY DOWN EVERY PET DOCTRINE and DIFFERENCE, and support the body of Christ 100% with everything we do. This will, certainly, separate the believers from the make-believers. Plenty of phonies around -- Hitler gave out an extra week’s food rations to those who snitched out their neighbors. And when Hitler’s troops came to people’s house in the middle of the night to haul them off to concentration camps, torture, and death, HE DID NOTHING ILLEGAL; the law allowed for that scenario! And Hitler did not seize power -- he was elected! People, who is YOUR god? Caesar? Or the Real Deal? Come out from among them and be separate!
It is more than interesting that in scripture, the wilderness is seen as a place of refuge, of safety...
YES! SO TRUE!
Well, we don’t need to know when it will come. Yesterday is gone, and tomorrow never gets here. All we have is NOW. What are we doing with the “NOW?
AMEN! Please, people, ask the Lord, NOW! DO NOT WAIT ANY LONGER!
He makes a way where there is no way. BUT, do you believe his word? Do you believe that?
Folks, there is to be no fear in any of this. God specifically says he has not given his people the spirit of fear -- fear is one of satan’s boys. Rather God has given his people the spirits of love, and of power, and of a sound mind. Are you one of God’s people??? But I love you and I don’t want to see you go the bad way! It breaks my heart to have to even post in this place. There are only a few here who are truly born again. I know that, because scripture tells us that. The path to destruction is broad, and the majority travel it.
I have been in some very hairy situations; my wife and I have seen the King move mountains. This game is for real, and we need to be playing it HIS way -- not our own way.
Absolutely.
Credit is not money; it is DEBT!
...while cash is still accepted.
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