Got me thinking that if the snake was not allowed into the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve would probably just be happily doing what they are told to do. Almost as if they were set up to fail. Every man is amounted to just so many gram (or kilogram) of raw chemicals. So why is that David is the man after God's own heart yet Judas became the traitor. There has to be someone to take the role of Judas, otherwise, the salvation will not happen. Who is deciding the role of each one of us and the consequence of what this person do. I heard the rationale of " free will" and " fallen world" so often. But it does not explain why some are saved, some are not.
I don't think you have a very good grasp of the point at hand. The question was whether God can be limited in any way by things that we do. The notion is preposterous. God does what He wishes when He wishes. To think that we puny mortals decide what God does or does not do is absurd.
The devil was one of God's favourites in heaven. We may all be aware that the devil wanted to same or more power/control than God. The devil wasn't happy and was cast out of heaven.
Let's face it, Satan has such cunning that he deceived the two people who should have been most faithful to God.
How did he get Eve to eat the forbidden fruit?
The devil knew how to, he lied (his main weapon) - Eve hadn't heard a lie, so how do you react - she took it as the truth and that God would not know.
Adam fell for the lie Eve told - the question I ask is this?
Should be draw any comparison between the devil and Eve?
She did lie to Adam and trick him...
I've started my own thread on this is general discussions - please post there and we can continue this discussion.Wasn't Adam standing right there with eve when the devil was talking to her? If so then all she did was hand Adam the fruit, no one deceived him, he flat out disobeyed.
I love how folks have the habit of coming up with absurd hypotheticals. You will notice in the scriptures that God's promises are ALWAYS conditional on the behaviors of the person to whom the promise is made.Let me ask you a question if i may?
If God says i am going to bless you with the biggest crop of corn or whatever....and we choose not to plant corn seeds. Have we limited God in what He said He will do?
I love how folks have the habit of coming up with absurd hypotheticals. You will notice in the scriptures that God's promises are ALWAYS conditional on the behaviors of the person to whom the promise is made.
If you do this, I will do that.
The answer to your question is still NO, a man cannot limit God.
Does the flea demand that the dog lie down?
This whole mode of thinking is just a symptom of the outrageous arrogance that is part and parcel with much of modern "christian" thinking. Whatever happened to humility?
Do you understand that you live or die at the whim of others?
Now you are just being rude. I have answered every single query posted to me, and I had thought I had done so thoroughly.Actually Glomung, I have a better idea....
Why not just asnwer my origional question with a straight answer.....It seems you have avoided this twice.
How about God has put limits on Himself? Why does he use us humans to accomplish things when he could have done it himself? In a way God limits himself. That is how I see it anyways.I don't think you have a very good grasp of the point at hand. The question was whether God can be limited in any way by things that we do. The notion is preposterous. God does what He wishes when He wishes. To think that we puny mortals decide what God does or does not do is absurd.