How Does One Keep The Sabbath And Does It Apply To The New Covenant

[Man-ofGod]

your still transgressing a law which is equal to sin which is also equal to death

So you are saying you are spiritually dead? For surely you have sin in your life! If you are this is good. It is a first step to depending solely and only on Christ for your salvation. Welcome to the doorway to eternal life (which is by grace through faith....it is the gift of God). Once you admit to yourself that in light of the new depth of meaning Christ put on the law you will realize you on your own effort (by what you do or so not so) are (and always will be) a miserable failure and that the ONLY hope you have is Christ and Christ alone (who fulfilled the law for all who are baptized by the Spirit into Him) then you will see the scriptures resolve the alleged contradictions IN HIM.

I am not saying that. The bible is saying that. If you sin then you are not dead to sin. That is just a simple biblical fact. This is why Christ is currently our intercessor.

Rom 6:12 - 16:

12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law (no condemnation), but under grace? God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?


That is why Paul says, I die daily (1 cor 15:31) .



Second, I already (try to) realize my true condition. Hence why I need Jesus and hence the reason for John 15. Speaking of which, what do you think one must do to realize their true condition?

Blessings,
MoG

 

[Brother Paul]

Indeed, Christ is our intercessor...great, you, who has sin in your life, is finally getting the idea! Now we who are born of His Spirit do not "Practice" sin any longer (it no longer reigns)....but it is still there (just admit it in humility before God and make Christ the only Way you can be right with God). This is what God did...Only Christ...not salvation in Christ, then a return to the flesh (what you do) in order to maintain your salvation...just Christ. Its all Him. Everything that was required He did for you if indeed you are IN HIM.

As Mitspa quoted elsewhere

Ga 3:10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in ALL things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

"Evident" That means that some refuse to give up their self-righteousness.

Ro 10:3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Amen...

 

[Mitspa]

I am not saying that. The bible is saying that. If you sin then you are not dead to sin. That is just a simple biblical fact. This is why Christ is currently our intercessor.

Rom 6:12 - 16:

12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law (no condemnation), but under grace? God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?


That is why Paul says, I die daily (1 cor 15:31) .



Second, I already (try to) realize my true condition. Hence why I need Jesus and hence the reason for John 15. Speaking of which, what do you think one must do to realize their true condition?

Blessings,
MoG

Right , it is the law that produces sinful desires in the flesh of man, so why would any attempt to promote the law as the answer to sin?
And again I find those who attempt to teach a standard to others that they do not keep themselves are guilty of the thing that God hates above all things, which is hypocrisy.
Paul does not suggest that a believer is held to a standard of a sinless life, and judged according to that standard. That was what the law was, a absolute standard that could not be kept, by which all where made guilty. What Paul is saying is just the opposite , you are no longer under that standard (that could not be kept) but are under the grace of God that will empower you to overcome the flesh and the sin that proceeds from the flesh.

The word condemnation is kata-krima or to judge against. The law can not judge-against those who are justified in Christ.

Lets show a little more context of these scriptures: and not just those that seem to put believers back under absolute standards that can not be kept.

Ro 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, (under law) but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Obeyed from the heart? not from the letter. The obedience of faith is that which Paul is teaching.

We where "slaves" to sin and the law held us in bondage to our sinful condition, but now we are justified apart from the obedience to the written code of the law and our obedience is that of faith and love. I am a slave of righteousness not a set of rules but a Person.

 

[Candelario Mario Villa]

Apparently, sin does not apply to some on this forum because (they say) they are "saved". Kind of reminds me of those who preach predestination: that God has chosen some to eternal life, and others for the lake of fire. They don't uderstand the Gospel,
and yet keep trying to preach what they don't understand.

True: the Gospel saves, and only the Gospel. For it testifies of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. They
who believe the Gospel will be saved. Why? Because they will believe the promise; and the promise will deposit the gift in
them: even to those who believe: "...for the promise is unto you...". Or shall I say it a little differently? "For by grace are
you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."

The Gospel will be made manifest in them that believe: even His death, burial and resurrection! God is no respector of persons: He has been giving everyone the same message and the same Spirit: "...I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation...for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints." Who are the saints? Them that first received
the promise, and those who are still receiving the promise. How was the promise manifest to the first three thousand souls that believed? and to the next five thousand souls, that believed? And all subsequent believers? The same way that it was manifest to the Jews in Jerusalem, and to the Samaritans, and to the Gentiles (house of Cornelius), through the preaching of the Apostle Peter. That, Beloved children, is the pattern of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

"The thief comes not but to steal, and to kill, and to destroy." The thief is he that "...catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is the seed that fell by the wayside." If the thief cannot steal the seed, then he will kill the bearer of the seed: "For
sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me." If we allow satan (the thief) to deceive us and kill
us (through sin), then he will cetainly destroy us. "There is a sin unto death (the second death): I do not say that he shall pray for it." Those are they which are to be cast into the lake of fire with satan and his followers.

 

[Brother Paul]

Apparently, sin does not apply to some on this forum because (they say) they are "saved". Kind of reminds me of those who preach predestination: that God has chosen some to eternal life, and others for the lake of fire. They don't uderstand the Gospel,
and yet keep trying to preach what they don't understand.

True: the Gospel saves, and only the Gospel. For it testifies of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. They
who believe the Gospel will be saved. Why? Because they will believe the promise; and the promise will deposit the gift in
them: even to those who believe: "...for the promise is unto you...". Or shall I say it a little differently? "For by grace are
you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."

The Gospel will be made manifest in them that believe: even His death, burial and resurrection! God is no respector of persons: He has been giving everyone the same message and the same Spirit: "...I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation...for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints." Who are the saints? Them that first received
the promise, and those who are still receiving the promise. How was the promise manifest to the first three thousand souls that believed? and to the next five thousand souls, that believed? And all subsequent believers? The same way that it was manifest to the Jews in Jerusalem, and to the Samaritans, and to the Gentiles (house of Cornelius), through the preaching of the Apostle Peter. That, Beloved children, is the pattern of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

"The thief comes not but to steal, and to kill, and to destroy." The thief is he that "...catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is the seed that fell by the wayside." If the thief cannot steal the seed, then he will kill the bearer of the seed: "For
sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me." If we allow satan (the thief) to deceive us and kill
us (through sin), then he will cetainly destroy us. "There is a sin unto death (the second death): I do not say that he shall pray for it." Those are they which are to be cast into the lake of fire with satan and his followers.

I'm gonna give a big Amen to that...one of the things I know for myself is that as I grew in the Spirit I sinned less and less (trying of course to never sin) and even when I know not if I sin I always have a heart humbled by my weakness and live in a state of contrition (with thanksgiving) before my Lord and Savior. Surely one other thing we know is that "sinless perfection" is impossible this side of glory...it is the goal (day by day, moment by moment) and the end result in glorification....only God can produce the "sinless perfection" we all should be striving for but there is now no condemnation...if i know I have sinned (like got unusually angry at someone or made a false accusation based on our limited ability to perceive or interpret evidence) I confess it knowing without doubt I am being forgiven and cleansed and that is by no means an excuse to allow for sin, it is just the nature of this fallen flesh (which also will be done away with in glorification). A good rule is forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive those who tresspass against us....till then thanks be to God for Christ in us...

brother Paul

 

[Mitspa]

Apparently some do not understand that the believer who is justified in Christ, cannot be found a sinner by the law of Moses.

Ro 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

 

[Brother Paul]

Apparently some do not understand that the believer who is justified in Christ, cannot be found a sinner by the law of Moses.

Ro 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Well said M...all thanks and praise be to our God....

 

[Candelario Mario Villa]

I'm gonna give a big Amen to that...one of the things I know for myself is that as I grew in the Spirit I sinned less and less (trying of course to never sin) and even when I know not if I sin I always have a heart humbled by my weakness and live in a state of contrition (with thanksgiving) before my Lord and Savior. Surely one other thing we know is that "sinless perfection" is impossible this side of glory...it is the goal (day by day, moment by moment) and the end result in glorification....only God can produce the "sinless perfection" we all should be striving for but there is now no condemnation...if i know I have sinned (like got unusually angry at someone or made a false accusation based on our limited ability to perceive or interpret evidence) I confess it knowing without doubt I am being forgiven and cleansed and that is by no means an excuse to allow for sin, it is just the nature of this fallen flesh (which also will be done away with in glorification). A good rule is forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive those who tresspass against us....till then thanks be to God for Christ in us...
brother Paul

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Yes, Beloved. As we grow in grace, we are made more responsible and are given more responsibilities. There are those who
refuse to grow up, and hang on to the milk of the word, and someone comes along and gives them a little honey to go with it.
Well, I just have to tell those pastors that they will be responsible for those children who lack the skills and bear fruit that is
not even fit for pruning. For we are called to "...bear much fruit...", that the Father may be glorified. We are not called to first multiply, but to be fruitful. Fruitfullness begins with believing the Gospel, and then (if one believes) obeying the Gospel (see
Mk. 16:15-16) There are those who demand to pitch and to be team captain just because they bring their own ball (gospel). It just doesn't work that way. A man can only teach about Revelations, or about Jesus, without the Gospel that saves. But the Church is called to "...go you, therefore, and teach (make disciples of) all nations, baptizing them...". But a man cannot give what a man doesn't have!

 

[Man-ofGod]

Indeed, Christ is our intercessor...great, you, who has sin in your life, is finally getting the idea! Now we who are born of His Spirit do not "Practice" sin any longer (it no longer reigns)....but it is still there (just admit it in humility before God and make Christ the only Way you can be right with God). This is what God did...Only Christ...not salvation in Christ, then a return to the flesh (what you do) in order to maintain your salvation...just Christ. Its all Him. Everything that was required He did for you if indeed you are IN HIM.

As Mitspa quoted elsewhere

Ga 3:10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in ALL things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

"Evident" That means that some refuse to give up their self-righteousness.

Ro 10:3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Amen...

Brother Paul,

If you carefully look at some of my preceding post, I have stated this quite clearly. It is not that I am "finally" getting it. I already knew and know it. Hence my need for Christ and my exaltation of Christ. This is why we need to confess our sins. Once we confess to God in the name of Christ our sins, we are forgiven. This is the Christian experience and the miracle and mystery of God. What is actually happening is your finally understanding my position.

Again, Rom 10:3 and Gal 3:10 is talking about justification. NO ONE IS JUSTIFIED, save Jesus, by keeping the law. We keep the law precisely because we are justified. Therefore, only the 100% obedient can be justified by the law. But a sinner can never be justified by the law. HENCE, when Christ takes on the condemnation we deserve being under the law we too become justified through Christ and free from the condemnation of death the law brings. And being free, we can be justified in Christ because we now uphold that same law. This is very simple, I think, and biblical.

Respectfully,
MoG

 

[Mitspa]

Brother Paul,

If you carefully look at some of my preceding post, I have stated this quite clearly. It is not that I am "finally" getting it. I already knew and know it. Hence my need for Christ and my exaltation of Christ. This is why we need to confess our sins. Once we confess to God in the name of Christ our sins, we are forgiven. This is the Christian experience and the miracle and mystery of God. What is actually happening is your finally understanding my position.

Again, Rom 10:3 and Gal 3:10 is talking about justification. NO ONE IS JUSTIFIED, save Jesus, by keeping the law. We keep the law precisely because we are justified. Therefore, only the 100% obedient can be justified by the law. But a sinner can never be justified by the law. HENCE, when Christ takes on the condemnation we deserve being under the law we too become justified through Christ and free from the condemnation of death the law brings. And being free, we can be justified in Christ because we now uphold that same law. This is very simple, I think, and biblical.

Respectfully,
MoG

Who "keeps" it? I see some claiming to keep it but they do not keep "all things written in the book of the law" and for sure not every jot and tittle. So who are these people that are keeping it? I see many make the claim and many "breaking" the law into parts and pieces (bringing the law down to a carnal level) to form false doctrine as to justify the flesh of man and not upholding the true standard of the law. If one says that it is love that fulfills the law? Then I agree, but even in that we are not under the law of moses but the Royal Law of Christ "to love as He has loved us"

You know this is really pretty simple? Those who are honest will admit that they cannot keep the law, but these same people will understand the love and mercy God has given to us freely through Christ and in turn walk in love, thus fulfilling all the law.

See the gospel is not a "do and then receive" it is completely based upon "receive first and then do" by that which is first received.

Ro 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

2Co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

 

[Man-ofGod]

Who "keeps" it? I see some claiming to keep it but they do not keep "all things written in the book of the law" and for sure not every jot and tittle. So who are these people that are keeping it? I see many make the claim and many "breaking" the law into parts and pieces (bringing the law down to a carnal level) to form false doctrine as to justify the flesh of man and not upholding the true standard of the law. If one says that it is love that fulfills the law? Then I agree, but even in that we are not under the law of moses but the Royal Law of Christ "to love as He has loved us"

You know this is really pretty simple? Those who are honest will admit that they cannot keep the law, but these same people will understand the love and mercy God has given to us freely through Christ and in turn walk in love, thus fulfilling all the law.

See the gospel is not a "do and then receive" it is completely based upon "receive first and then do" by that which is first received.

Ro 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

2Co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

Hello again Brother Mitzpa ,

We do not need to break the law into parts in Galatian. The book of Galatian is talking about law , any law period. Whether it is the 10 commandments or it is the law of Moses. I have no quarrel with that. But it is all in the context of justification not sactification. Only Jesus sacrifice Justifies us, not the law.

So when we look at your quote taking out of context: it renders "10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them."

We see, that the curse, which is sin unto death, applies to all who do not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law. Paul is clearly showing us our condition if we are seeking justification by the law. Hence why Jesus had to become a curse for us.

v13 "13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:"

But the fact that Christ died for our sins in fact proves the perpetuity of the law, for if the law was not perpetual, then Christ died in vein.

Finally, brother Mitzpa, I have said many times that apart from Jesus I can do nothing. I cannot keep the law on my own. But with Jesus, all things are possible. I have faith to believe if Jesus has enough power to die on the cross, then He must have enough power to take us away from every sin. Do you have that faith?

Blessings,
MoG

 

[Mitspa]

Hello again Brother Mitzpa ,

We do not need to break the law into parts in Galatian. The book of Galatian is talking about law , any law period. Whether it is the 10 commandments or it is the law of Moses. I have no quarrel with that. But it is all in the context of justification not sactification. Only Jesus sacrifice Justifies us, not the law.

So when we look at your quote taking out of context: it renders "10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them."

We see, that the curse, which is sin unto death, applies to all who do not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law. Paul is clearly showing us our condition if we are seeking justification by the law. Hence why Jesus had to become a curse for us.

v13 "13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:"

But the fact that Christ died for our sins in fact proves the perpetuity of the law, for if the law was not perpetual, then Christ died in vein.

Finally, brother Mitzpa, I have said many times that apart from Jesus I can do nothing. I cannot keep the law on my own. But with Jesus, all things are possible. I have faith to believe if Jesus has enough power to die on the cross, then He must have enough power to take us away from every sin. Do you have that faith?

Blessings,
MoG

On what authority do you "break" the law into parts? Not the bible and the very verse you quote says very clearly that if one attempts to keep any part of the law, they must keep "all things written in the book" . Now what part of "all things" does not mean "all things"?

I have posted the context over and over, the scriptures alone defeat what you are trying to affirm. It is you who post parts of the scriptures and then explain them away in an attempt to change their meaning and context. I will post them again in their context:

Ga 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 ¶ Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

"Speaking in terms of righteousness-moral terms, not ceremonial" !

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

"The curse comes because the law has a curse for those who do not keep it all, all meaning all" the point being that we have been set free and those who return to "parts" of the law are cursed by the law. Its all or nothing!

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them

Now again, the issue is righteousness - moral law is at issue.

 

[Mitspa]

I would also add that legalism or a return to the law, never promotes true holiness only that false religion of the Pharisees. White painted tombs, with religious mask. The Lord always made this issue about the heart and if the heart is pure? The outward will conform to what is true in the heart. "nothing that a man put in his body can defile him, but what comes from a mans heart is what defiles a man" - Jesus "The Holy One"

 

[Candelario Mario Villa]

Beloved, any form of legalism denies the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
To reiterate, the pattern of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is found in the preaching of the Apostle Peter to the Jews and Jerusalem,
to the Samaritans, and to the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius. To deviate from that pattern, is to embrace legalism and modernism. Those espousing this other "gospel" are shouting: MY Way!; MY Way!; MY Way! And they turn a blind eye
to the Lord's pattern; stop their ears, and blurt out whatever comes to their minds: ignoring the true Gospel.

 

[Mitspa]

Beloved, any form of legalism denies the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
To reiterate, the pattern of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is found in the preaching of the Apostle Peter to the Jews and Jerusalem,
to the Samaritans, and to the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius. To deviate from that pattern, is to embrace legalism and modernism. Those espousing this other "gospel" are shouting: MY Way!; MY Way!; MY Way! And they turn a blind eye
to the Lord's pattern; stop their ears, and blurt out whatever comes to their minds: ignoring the true Gospel.

No the Gospel was delivered by Paul, to which even Peter did submit. I say that which Paul has given to us through his epistles. And even if an angel from heaven tries to preach another gospel other than the gospel of grace, let them be accursed.

 

[Candelario Mario Villa]

No the Gospel was delivered by Paul, to which even Peter did submit. I say that which Paul has given to us through his epistles. And even if an angel from heaven tries to preach another gospel other than the gospel of grace, let them be accursed.

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The Lord Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom to Peter, and also commanded the apsotles: "Bur you shall receive power after
that the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and you shall be witnesses unto me in Jerusalem and all ajudea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." This commandment was fullfilled when Peter, "...standing with the eleven...", preached to
Jerusalem and all Judea, to the Samaritans, and to the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius.

Saul of Tarsus preached to the Jews, and was later called to be a teacher. Later still, he was called into the apostleship and soon after became the "aposlte to the Gentiles"; and Peter and the Ministry were in agreement.

You voice the words of my Brother Paul, but you are not a witness to his Ministry.

 

[Mitspa]

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The Lord Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom to Peter, and also commanded the apsotles: "Bur you shall receive power after
that the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and you shall be witnesses unto me in Jerusalem and all ajudea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." This commandment was fullfilled when Peter, "...standing with the eleven...", preached to
Jerusalem and all Judea, to the Samaritans, and to the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius.

Saul of Tarsus preached to the Jews, and was later called to be a teacher. Later still, he was called into the apostleship and soon after became the "aposlte to the Gentiles"; and Peter and the Ministry were in agreement.

You voice the words of my Brother Paul, but you are not a witness to his Ministry.

Here is his words according to the truth of scripture: Let Gods Word judge and be the final answer to all truth.

Ro 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Ga 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Ga 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
Ga 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
11 ¶ But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

 

[Candelario Mario Villa]

Here is his words according to the truth of scripture: Let Gods Word judge and be the final answer to all truth.
Ro 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Ga 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Ga 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
Ga 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
11 ¶ But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

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Are you now saying that the Gospel proclaimed by the twelve apostles and the Apostle Paul are two different gospels?????
Intentional or not, what you are doing is trying to subvert the faith of those who are weak in the faith. Have you not read how
Saul of Tarsus (now the Apostle Paul) stood before the apostles and they "...gave me the right hand of fellowship..."? Do
you really believe that would have happened if Saul was preaching another Gospel? Read the words of my Brother, Paul:
"For HE that worked effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty to me toward the Gentiles." It was the same God; it was the same calling; it was the same Gospel.
Sir, you are trying to misdirect the words of Brothers Peter and Paul to suit your OWN agenda.

 

[Man-ofGod]

On what authority do you "break" the law into parts? Not the bible and the very verse you quote says very clearly that if one attempts to keep any part of the law, they must keep "all things written in the book" . Now what part of "all things" does not mean "all things"?

I have posted the context over and over, the scriptures alone defeat what you are trying to affirm. It is you who post parts of the scriptures and then explain them away in an attempt to change their meaning and context. I will post them again in their context:

Ga 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 ¶ Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

"Speaking in terms of righteousness-moral terms, not ceremonial" !
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
"The curse comes because the law has a curse for those who do not keep it all, all meaning all" the point being that we have been set free and those who return to "parts" of the law are cursed by the law. Its all or nothing!

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them

Now again, the issue is righteousness - moral law is at issue.

Bro. Mitspa,

Please review the post I made. Right from the onset I said "We do NOT need to break the law into parts in Galatians." Your arguing against the straw man.

Blessings,
MoG

 

[Mitspa]

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Are you now saying that the Gospel proclaimed by the twelve apostles and the Apostle Paul are two different gospels?????
Intentional or not, what you are doing is trying to subvert the faith of those who are weak in the faith. Have you not read how
Saul of Tarsus (now the Apostle Paul) stood before the apostles and they "...gave me the right hand of fellowship..."? Do
you really believe that would have happened if Saul was preaching another Gospel? Read the words of my Brother, Paul:
"For HE that worked effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty to me toward the Gentiles." It was the same God; it was the same calling; it was the same Gospel.
Sir, you are trying to misdirect the words of Brothers Peter and Paul to suit your OWN agenda.

WHAT? (all I did was say I am going to post the scriptures and then posted nothing but scriptures) lol
I did not say that? If you see them different, then that is your failure to understand that all of the scriptures are brought into agreement through Pauls teachings and that God appointed him as the final word on all sound doctrine. So anything written in the law, or in the Gospels and Acts or by John or by Peter or by James or Jude, is only understood through that which Paul taught as "the gospel" of the Grace of Jesus Christ.