Four years ago, I pretty much would have agreed with you. The most recent thread that I recall is An Indepth Study of Genesis which didn't get far...there are other older Genesis threads (not all worth reading IMO)..."Noah" at youtube by Trey Smith has lots of info if you have 3 hours and don't mind a guy who appears to have ADD and talks with his hands. I love that video. Genesis is VERY important to understand IMO. Like the beginning - like the end. I love science, too, and can only say that true scientfic facts, as opposed to unproved theories, do not contradict Genesis. God created everything and made man in His image. But that's not in keeping with this thread. But do the homework and check it out to erase your own doubts. Try reading it as the truth and then look for how it could be true....not how it could not be.
New World Order, Environmentalism, Conspiracy theory etc.
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Four years ago, I pretty much would have agreed with you. The most recent thread that I recall is An Indepth Study of Genesis which didn't get far...there are other older Genesis threads (not all worth reading IMO)..."Noah" at youtube by Trey Smith has lots of info if you have 3 hours and don't mind a guy who appears to have ADD and talks with his hands. I love that video. Genesis is VERY important to understand IMO. Like the beginning - like the end. I love science, too, and can only say that true scientfic facts, as opposed to unproved theories, do not contradict Genesis. God created everything and made man in His image. But that's not in keeping with this thread. But do the homework and check it out to erase your own doubts. Try reading it as the truth and then look for how it could be true....not how it could not be.
I'll try to download that one for viewing in parts.
So I went looking on youtube for the Club of Rome. I found a video by Dr.John Coleman, apparently done while Clinton was president. He said the club was an executive arm of the Committee of 300 (that sounds like shades of bloodlines of the Illuminati), founded in Rome but since headquartered in Zurich - near the hadron collider (talk about disruption of the climate and earth...rofl). I didn't get much in this 1h43m...other than overpopulation and climate change. Coleman seems a bit off, altho I did agree with him about Nafta. Anyone know anymore about the club or is this just a new name for an old evil?
I'm only laughing because my eyes get puffy/horrible when I cry. It made me think of the Coleman video I watched and how he nailed Clinton for a philanderer before Monica and the blonde bimbo's (forgot her name) revelations. But your columnist is right - just when you think you've heard something too far out to be real - it's tomorrow's headlines. Apparently he thinks the paranormal and alien thing really is too far out......wait 'til he sees Octobers headlines, eh? (half joking). The thing is....I think these conspiracies are all a little too real.
Talking about conspiracies......
Back in the 90s there was a brand new political party on the UK block. It was called The Referendum Party, and as the name suggests, its one and only aim was to force a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU. It was directly funded and led by Sir James Goldsmith, a millionaire businessman.
Goldsmith kick started the campaign by sending a video through the post to every single household in the UK, an expensive business. The video was very informative and for the first time made it clear how successive governments had deceived the British people at every level of our entry and membership of the EU.
As I had been praying about this subject for several years, I hooked up and went along to several meetings. Some time before the 1997 general election, (which Tony Blair won,) the Referendum Party had a conference in Alexandra Palace in London.
I clearly remember Goldsmith standing at the front saying, "Thank you German Television, thank you French Television, Thank you CNN, etc, but where are you BBC, where are you ITV, you have betrayed this nation once again.
At between 7,000 and 10,000 his was the biggest political party rally in the UK since the war and yet -there was a total news blackout in the UK!
(Take note those Brits who dismiss the idea of news bias in the UK!)
The BBC and ITV held the monopoly on the airwaves and back then would never give airtime to anyone attacking the EU, despite being a legal democratic UK political party.
FYI James Goldsmith died of cancer shortly after the election and the Referendum party also died with him. But it had served a grand purpose in waking the country up. Most ex members moved over to the United Kingdom Independence Party which is currently making massive waves in the UK political scene.
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Speaking of news media, all the major media outlets mislead, ignore, distract, block and snigger at truth all the time. I don't think I really believed that until this year, when I began to use the internet to compare and get information. You really do need the lens of the Holy Spirit to gather information.
It is the same with Christian sites on the net as well.
Really? When I am researching something (biblical) I tend to go to various web sites for particular items pro and con but I confess, I don't always click on all tabs so I can't speak to that. The only forum I post on or generally go to for reading is here. For news, I go all over the place, depending on what I am looking for. I try to go for all sides of a story. I'm always interested in better ways of finding things - exploring. In the end, I am finding that what sounds good doesn't always match in context scripture.
Every news source has it's own leanings. Bias can be a factor of how far their viewpoint differs from our own.
I don't remember the one that you mention but I think I would have liked the BBC at that time. My own take is that they were badly damaged by the Hutton Report which is later in history. To me, they mostly toe the party in powers line.
I'm less sure about UKIP making massive waves than you are. The LibDems made greater strides as a 3rd party until their alliance with the Tories which all but wiped them out.
I think the certainty in the UK is that many lack trust in either of the 2 biggest parties and do consider alternatives. And, lets face it, many of us see most of them as serving their own self interests. I think the last potential PM who might well have got in to power that I really had a lot of time for might have been John Smith but he died.
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The lens of the Holy Spirit!
That has to be the most profound statement so far on this subject, and it also applies to everything else in life, including church!
It was that very fact that originally woke me up, listening to the news etc and getting that witness in my spirit that they were lying. Searching elsewhere then proved categorically that it was lies.
However, when as I related above, you are caught up in the middle of a conspiracy of silence, it gives you a powerful weapon to shake the complacency of the sleeping public and church. And even more so when you then get a death threat for doing so!
The picture they use next to Doh! cross referenced with Blockhead, is mine. Someone here told me (probably out of frustration) that I should read scripture with the Holy Spirit. It had never occurred to me before then. Then I started reading (posts and books) with the HS and watching TV. Kaboom.....seeking truth became easier. And left me ravenous.
You won't remember something that was never broadcast would you, and that's their entire purpose! At least the internet has made their deceit more easy to prove. Unfortunately most fools continue to blindly suckle at the tit of the Beeb or their fellow travelers without questioning anything.
Fact. The BBC ensure that their staff are all NWO liberal leftists by the simple expedient of never advertising for jobs except in the Guardian.
Died? Assassinated more likely. John Smith a decent man, not that I would ever vote socialist. Many believe that he was assassinated by the NWO so that Blair could take his place.
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Before reading this post, please read post No2 at the beginning of the thread because this follows directly on from that.
NWO environmental conspiracy Part2
Another year, another show, and again we were preparing for the annual Ideal Home Exhibition at Earl's Court London. Again my spirit is troubled. The Exhibition centre has had another huge building added since last year and is now bigger than ever. The new building has been completely taken over by the Department of the Environment for their "Environment Exhibition". My spirit is doing a dance and I keep trying to peek through the doors. As already explained, last year the Dept of the Environment built their "Green House", in reality a temple for the Goddess Gaia.
This year, encouraged by the enthusiasm of a blind and deaf public, they have reserved one whole exhibition building to parade their pagan agenda. Security guards are stationed at every entrance and although I have an official pass, it doesn't extend to that area. Not only that, but I am up to my eyeballs supervising my own guys building our stand.
Finally the day arrives and as soon as I can get free, I venture into the new "Environment Exhibition" sponsored by the UK government Department of the Environment. State sponsored religion.
The moment I entered, my spiritual hackles rose and stood on end. There was line after line of "environmental" show stands. However about half of these stands were plain and direct occult or New Age religion stands! What the ...........?
As I walked through praying in tongues, it was like walking in the dark through a bat filled cave, any moment I expected them to land in my hair. I could sense the demonic horde like flies flying around my head wherever I walked.
Tarot cards, crystals, meditation, incense, palm reading, everything imaginable related to paganism and New Age Religion was being gleefully presented. And just what has all that to do with saving energy? Apparently everything!
Yes there were several modern, energy efficient houses to walk through and goggle at, but I could already see that the prime motivation behind everything there was plain old occultism.
The Environment Movement is a Satanic movement designed to captivate the nations. Christians who support it must wake up to whom they are in bed with!
Every single nation is being driven by the same agenda of earth worship. Despite all the propaganda, saving the planet has little to do with the agenda, rather the agenda is about creating the New World Order one world government which will be antichrist and totally pagan.
Gullible Christians are helping to build it.
NWO environmental conspiracy Part2
Another year, another show, and again we were preparing for the annual Ideal Home Exhibition at Earl's Court London. Again my spirit is troubled. The Exhibition centre has had another huge building added since last year and is now bigger than ever. The new building has been completely taken over by the Department of the Environment for their "Environment Exhibition". My spirit is doing a dance and I keep trying to peek through the doors. As already explained, last year the Dept of the Environment built their "Green House", in reality a temple for the Goddess Gaia.
This year, encouraged by the enthusiasm of a blind and deaf public, they have reserved one whole exhibition building to parade their pagan agenda. Security guards are stationed at every entrance and although I have an official pass, it doesn't extend to that area. Not only that, but I am up to my eyeballs supervising my own guys building our stand.
Finally the day arrives and as soon as I can get free, I venture into the new "Environment Exhibition" sponsored by the UK government Department of the Environment. State sponsored religion.
The moment I entered, my spiritual hackles rose and stood on end. There was line after line of "environmental" show stands. However about half of these stands were plain and direct occult or New Age religion stands! What the ...........?
As I walked through praying in tongues, it was like walking in the dark through a bat filled cave, any moment I expected them to land in my hair. I could sense the demonic horde like flies flying around my head wherever I walked.
Tarot cards, crystals, meditation, incense, palm reading, everything imaginable related to paganism and New Age Religion was being gleefully presented. And just what has all that to do with saving energy? Apparently everything!
Yes there were several modern, energy efficient houses to walk through and goggle at, but I could already see that the prime motivation behind everything there was plain old occultism.
The Environment Movement is a Satanic movement designed to captivate the nations. Christians who support it must wake up to whom they are in bed with!
Every single nation is being driven by the same agenda of earth worship. Despite all the propaganda, saving the planet has little to do with the agenda, rather the agenda is about creating the New World Order one world government which will be antichrist and totally pagan.
Gullible Christians are helping to build it.
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Its very easy to be sucked into 'green living' kind of thinking.
Next thing you know, people you think are sane start talking bout minimising their 'carbon footprint' saying they refuse to have children cos the world is overpopulated, only start shopping at free trade stores and drinking 'ethical' coffee, recycling their toilet paper, and eating rabbits.
Then they sit in the dark with their eco friendly candles and start chanting to buddha or whatever god they believe in, to come end their suffering on earth. Since their very existence is using up valuable resources. You Might as well offer yourself to be cremated and your ashes to be used as fertiliser.
Next thing you know, people you think are sane start talking bout minimising their 'carbon footprint' saying they refuse to have children cos the world is overpopulated, only start shopping at free trade stores and drinking 'ethical' coffee, recycling their toilet paper, and eating rabbits.
Then they sit in the dark with their eco friendly candles and start chanting to buddha or whatever god they believe in, to come end their suffering on earth. Since their very existence is using up valuable resources. You Might as well offer yourself to be cremated and your ashes to be used as fertiliser.
I'm currently reading "On the Path of the Immortals" by Horn & Putnam and decided to check out their youtube channel (Skywatch.com) and I found a 5 part video on the book at Prophecy Watchers (If you wondered where Gary Stearman went when he left Prophecy in the News...he's the new host). Here's a look at the 1st part:
I do have concerns about the environment and wonder whether our lusts for consumption and our wisdom might have caused some problems. I'm actually on a "greener" project at home as and when I can afford it. I try to do some project each year as my thank you to my parents for having me. This year, I'm (made more difficult as all the switches are home automation types and need replacing) converting the house to LED.
The motivation is more selfish than being green though. I'm trying to reduce electricity bills. I've cut the kitchen lights down from about 300W to 42W, the living room with everything on from over 600W to say 100W. Two outside floodlights from 600W to 100W. And improved the lighting at the same time. It's been quite an expensive business but I think in the longer term, it will prove to be worth while.
I've not always been sure of EU policies though. I think the good old 100W bulb became a bad thing and people seemed to get persuaded into CFLs which I don't like. At least now IMO, whatever the motivation, I think LED technology is mature and a viable option.