Agreed. Take a look at the layout of the city of Washington DC. with all the Masonic symbols being used.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Illuminati/dc.htm
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Agreed. Take a look at the layout of the city of Washington DC. with all the Masonic symbols being used.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Illuminati/dc.htm
Lol. Most believers are blind deaf dumb and ignorant when it comes to what is really happening out there with the NWO. I never learned anything whatsoever about the NWO from any single one of the spirit filled churches I ever attended. In fact I was the one who informed them, or informed the very few who were interested. In no uncertain terms, most believers just told me to stop being stupid.
Major, you act as if the total and absolute plan has been written in full detail in scripture, when only outlines are given. There are some facts we know, and millions of facts we don't know. It is the latter where believers can intercede, and not one of my comments so far indicates that we might change what God has told us will happen.
Read the story of Abraham, when God is just about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. We both know that if Abraham had not interceded, then Lot would have been killed. Abraham altered the methodology of the way God brought about the judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah. And if you read the story, its like the Lord just dropped a hint in passing, about what was on the agenda. It is quite amusing how the Lord lets slip, just to challenge Abraham to grow in faith.
Are we listening to that same whisper as the Lord passes by?
From what I have read of your comments Major, you believe the saints will be snatched away before the tribulation. Although the elite are doing their best to establish the one world NWO as soon as possible, in my view that will not be complete until the crisis created by the rapture. Thus it makes sense that the saints do their best to oppose the completion of the NWO ten kingdoms until as late as possible.
Daniel tells us that the ten kingdoms are iron and clay, and just as iron and clay do not stick together, then neither will these nations stick well together. That is my area of prayer warfare, and it should be the area of prayer for all christians. That is praying according to scripture, and most christians here have completely missed it because they are so cast in concrete about what they think scripture says.
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You need to get your facts right Lanolin.
The UK has been a member of the EU since the early 70s. People like me are doing our best to extricate the UK from membership so we can become a free self governing nation once again.
Lack of knowledge has been causing the UK to perish for the last 50 years.
Can we talk about the Club of Rome? Erroneously, I thought this referred to the Vatican (oops sorry Catholics). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome
You said a lot of words there, but you did not answer my one simple, important question (or if you did, I missed it) - what is it you are asking us to do?? You said prayer is not enough, and made it a point to point out that Jesus said to flee. That's all I got out of it. I'm obviously not as smart as you are on these matters, so what are you asking Joe Citizen, here in Michigan in the USA (me) to do? Take a moment to stop lecturing me, and simply tell me that. That would go a long way!
Everyone that I know has heard of this NWO - Christians and non. And if churches aren't preaching it, it's because they should be spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ, not spending Sunday sermons preaching politics.
Not to put too fine a point to it but we Christians want a NWO...only difference is we call it the Millenial Kingdom and want Christ to lead us. One NWO has to come before the other. And the one that comes first is non cohesive ---all that clay and metal don't mingle well.
And I agree with @Major, that all the diabolic groups have their roots in Nimrod of the many names, one of which is gilgamesh (another, apollo) and his half built tower. The tale of gilgamesh starts out with a lie. gilgamesh claims that he was on the ark, during the flood. Except as dna....he wasn't.
And I agree with @Major, that all the diabolic groups have their roots in Nimrod of the many names, one of which is gilgamesh (another, apollo) and his half built tower. The tale of gilgamesh starts out with a lie. gilgamesh claims that he was on the ark, during the flood. Except as dna....he wasn't.
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The only thing that will stop us from perishing is the gospel of Jesus Christ, so...not sure why you need to focus on what the world is doing. If there are people who just dont want to know Jesus and stay in the world, we cant force them, it is their choice. Jesus is the savior, not you...so..i just think you being a bit puffed up here Francis.
Just to clarify for you. We are a member of the EU. Our currency is pounds sterling.
In the context of a larger view of this thread and to me... When you start looking at a thread like this, I find parts can be very strangely tangled up with (typically towards the far right of) politics.
Me, I try not to get deeply involved in conspiracies and end times. Don't get me wrong. I do believe the world is in terminal decline. I do believe Jesus Christ will return one day. I might even feel that we are on the verge of some major change at the moment. I am however very uneasy about going beyond that.
Lanolin, you made some statements about my country which were plain wrong. I simply corrected your facts. You may not like being corrected, but there is no need for personal insult.
Just a question with no other motive involved......... how does that make you feel?
Agreed!
You are very correct Frances. What God puts into motion is impossible to be stopped.
The book of the Revelation is written in what is called "Proleptic" Greek. That means it is written in a way where what John describes has ALREADY taken place. IT is not a matter of maybe or I think this is coming but instead it is............
"here is what has already happened."
The incident with Abraham and Lot does not apply. You are equating an event with the prophetic will of God and that is like comparing oranges to pecans. Just will not work my brother. There is in Biblical theology a thing called the "Permissive Will of God" and the "Perfect Will of God". It is about being impatient and settling for that which God will permit (ergo permissive), rather than waiting for the Perfect Will of God and God’s perfect plan and destiny for one’s life.
YES, I believe the Rapture to be a Biblical truth. When it takes place everything in God's Perfect will come about very quickly.
YES, I certainly believe that all believers should pray for the Rapture to be later more than sooner. However, the Bible teaches us that when the Church is complete, that is, when the last person in God's Perfect will is saved as was predestined by Him, that is the moment the Rapture will take place, IMO.
That is why I say that the best thing we all can do is get out the Word of God so that the person destined to hear and believe will do just that.
OK. Without wishing to get into a debate on this: Very awkward as my own political leanings on the social side of things are to the left. I'm not what I think Americans would call liberal, perhaps leaning more towards Acts and the early Christians - at least the way I read it is more sort of socialist in nature.
There are times I want to dive in and get angry for that sort of reason but usually decide to walk away (perhaps having slightly put my foot in it first) from the forum for a month or so rather than get involved.
I suppose I could also say that one of my takes on things is that I do feel all our understandings of the bible (including my own limited one) can be coloured to some extent by our own political leanings, cultural backgrounds, patriotisms, etc.
On the end times bit, while not personally a believer in the rapture, I will openly confess that I do not understand Revelations, etc. to form a "definite opinion" of my own. As things stand, I am however content to leave this as it is.
Hope that explains things a bit for you.
For me, the more truth I find in scripture, the less political I get. I don't trust politicians of any stripe, and it has been long since I have witnessed government working for anybody but the rich and corporate, usually at the mass of people's expense and liberty. The majority are too often herded by immediate invented fears to see the cliff they are being herded to. The only hope I have is in God.
Thanks Major, I understand what you say about the Greek, but Daniel spoke Hebrew Lol!
Notwithstanding the Greek or Hebrew, the prophecies still leave a huge amount of unwritten guesswork as regards the detail. It is that area we can pray into.
We do not know precisely when the final ten kingdoms will become actual facts of life, we just know it will happen. Just look at what we do know and you will see that Daniel's words deliberately leave much to pray into.-
Daniel2
40Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
(The final kingdom will be more violent and oppressive than all previous tyrannical regimes.)
41Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
(The final kingdom will be an unstable entity with much division.)
42As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
(Some members of the final kingdom will bring great strengths, but will be completely undermined weaker members.)
43And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
(The differences between the nations gathered up inside the alliance will cause major splits and a falling apart.)
As already stated, scripture does not indicate that the final kingdom will be fully and totally operational in advance of the rapture, (or for those rejecting the rapture, operational in advance of the Tribulation). [NB please lets not get into an argument about the rapture on this thread.]
In my opinion, the one world government preparations will continue apace, but will not necessarily succeed until some massive world shaking crisis (like the rapture) kick starts it. Then all people will be screaming for world leadership, and that man will step out, centre stage, to the wild applause of a deceived world. (Just like Hitler)
To comprehend the uphill struggle of the coming NWO antichrist led unity, we only need to look at the results of previous enforced unities.
The former Soviet Union was a unity maintained at gun point. As soon as the gun was lowered, the whole false construct revealed how much the constituent nations despised their union with Moscow.
Again we see this in Yugoslavia. After President Tito's death, the nation struggled to hold itself together until inevitably civil war broke out. Suddenly neighbour is violently killing neighbour as the country tears itself apart along ethnic battle lines.
Regarding the end time prophecies, God has led my wife and I and many others into warfare against the demonic strongholds over the UK and the EU. I seriously believe the Lord wants the UK to break away from the EU, and that is the division we have been crying out to the Lord for over the last 20 or so years. Current events in the UK show a massive change in opinion regarding the UK's membership, and the government have finally been forced into promising a referendum on that issue.
Contrary to what many people here have accused me of, I am not in the least rejecting biblical prophecy or God's sovereignty. Nothing I have written on these posts, and nothing I am praying for is contradictory to scripture.
I am walking this journey because I understand those prophecies, and because the Lord has called me to that battle.
After the rapture, what remains of the UK will most certainly be a part of the ten nations. However I can see no scripture that specifically puts the UK into the ten nations in my lifetime, and it doesn't have to be so before the rapture or tribulation starts.
What fool decides to be a turkey that votes for Christmas? If Christmas is coming, lets pray it is delayed till after that turkey learns to fly.
That reminds me a little of what Hezekiah said-
“At least there will be peace and truth in my days.”
I doubt it!
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Excuse me it, whatever i said, is not meant to be an insult and please dont take it as one. How was I supposed to know I dont live in your country.
In the resurrection, Jesus will be King so..I dont think you need to worry about politics after that! He will put things right.
These days the antichrist is everywhere esp in govt, so..nothing they do surprises me.
In the resurrection, Jesus will be King so..I dont think you need to worry about politics after that! He will put things right.
These days the antichrist is everywhere esp in govt, so..nothing they do surprises me.
Of course you are correct but please notice that I said the Revelation by John which was my focus at that point and not Daniel.
Do you think that the economic meltdown in 2008 set the timetable back of the One World Order?
Could that be the reason why the USA will not play a major role in the end times?
I am very glad that the Lord has called you to be such a warrior!