i am glad to see you post thisA "Mandatory" baptism to be a church member is a local Church requirement is is not in any way Biblical and will likely harm the child later in life as they will think that they are saved because they were baptized.
i am glad to see you post thisA "Mandatory" baptism to be a church member is a local Church requirement is is not in any way Biblical and will likely harm the child later in life as they will think that they are saved because they were baptized.
by telling the child they have to.. which is not Biblehow can it be forced we not even know at that age.
exactlyf, and I have personally baptized adults who were baptized as a child and when grown, realized that all they did was get wet, wanted to do it again when it actually meant something to them.
A child doesn’t get to have an opinion. Actually at that age of a few years we don’t even know. Only that later most of us are much glad we were done. Along with keeping our affiliation numbers strong in the faith. It may mean a lot to you considering that be the name you go under. But not so much to us that we would ever consider being called such.by telling the child they have to.. which is not Bible
it depends on the child besides when a child gets saved it does not mean rush into baptism .. some children have a deeper grasp than some adults. to many depend on water to be savedA child doesn’t get to have an opinion. Actually at that age of a few years we don’t even know. Only that later most of us are much glad we were done. Along with keeping our affiliation numbers strong in the faith. It may mean a lot to you considering that be the name you go under. But not so much to us that we would ever consider being called such.
Forgiven as mentioned in my previous post it has nothing to do with and if and when a child be saved. At the same time our churches believe it to be a visible but also an inward sign of Gods faith given unto the elect when it comes to infant baptism Acts 2:38- 39. Look more closely at v 39. Is it not to our children’s children As well ? We merely proclaim the Lords great commission of baptising in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost just as in the old covenant of circumcision so with new covenant of baptism which has been conferred upon the Church to appropriate at least with traditional churches under the stipulation of the great commission Mathew 28:19.it depends on the child besides when a child gets saved it does not mean rush into baptism .. some children have a deeper grasp than some adults. to many depend on water to be saved
Forgiven we must also consider that under the old covenant of circumcision all including infants were considered members of the covenant community due to old covenant as mentioned in Genesis 7:9-14 . Not that all were believers we leave that for the Lord to decide as with all in the the new covenant also . The matter of grace has not changed Col 2:11-12 only in administration and the new sign of initiation from circumcision of old to baptism into the new. Col 2:8-15. . When thinking upon the age of consent with baptism we must also consider the many times in the book of Acts where the entire household is converted and baptised. It is unimaginable to think that there would be no infants amongst those households. The church has looked into the matter deeply in its infancy. The very reason the traditional church has always promoted infant baptism as the primary correct interpretation. Forgiven We have no problem in baptising those who have never been baptised from whatever age as confirmed within the Reformed Churches articles of faith and the Westminster confession the cannon of Dort and a multitude other documents along with the Bible. But we do refuse to baptise people who have already been baptised from their youth . You may disagree. A difference of doctrinal outlook I guess.it depends on the child besides when a child gets saved it does not mean rush into baptism .. some children have a deeper grasp than some adults. to many depend on water to be saved
it depends on the child besides when a child gets saved it does not mean rush into baptism .. some children have a deeper grasp than some adults. to many depend on water to be saved
Forgiven as mentioned in my previous post it has nothing to do with and if and when a child be saved. At the same time our churches believe it to be a visible but also an inward sign of Gods faith given unto the elect when it comes to infant baptism Acts 2:38- 39. Look more closely at v 39. Is it not to our children’s children As well ? We merely proclaim the Lords great commission of baptising in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost just as in the old covenant of circumcision so with new covenant of baptism which has been conferred upon the Church to appropriate at least with traditional churches under the stipulation of the great commission Mathew 28:19.
Forgiven we must also consider that under the old covenant of circumcision all including infants were considered members of the covenant community due to old covenant as mentioned in Genesis 7:9-14 . When thinking upon the age of consent with baptism we must also consider the many times in the book of Acts where the entire household is converted and baptised. It is unimaginable to think that there would be no infants amongst those households. The church has looked into the matter deeply in its infancy. The very reason the traditional church has always promoted infant baptism as the primary correct interpretation. Forgiven We have no problem in baptising those who have never been baptised from whatever age as confirmed within the Reformed Churches articles of faith and the Westminster confession the cannon of Dort and a multitude other documents along with the Bible. But we do refuse to baptise people who have already been baptised from their youth . You may disagree. A difference of doctrinal outlook I guess.
I was "baptised" as an infant in the Catholic Church. When I walked out of the Catholic Church 20 years ago... it was my understanding that because I requested ex-communication from the church that I was then deemed as an apostate and my eternal position in the eyes of the church was eternal damnation. It is my opinion that infant baptism is a false claim of salvation. AT most it is a claim to membership of the church. I absolutely did not feel that I was getting baptised TWICE but rather... .for the first time in a state of biblical obedience.
I mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to anyone who might belong to the Catholic Church.... I assumed that NO one here within the forums was a practicing Catholic. If I am wrong about that... I apologise for even making a comment regarding baptism.I was 1 month old and baptised in the Roman Catholic Church. My Dad and late Mom were 21 and 20 respectively. They were not grounded doctrinally or theologically but they believe in God and were Church going people. I learned as I got older their intentions being their first child and for this I thank God that my parents thought enough of me to make a public proclamation that I would be raised in the foundation of a Christian home.
I mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to anyone who might belong to the Catholic Church.... I assumed that NO one here within the forums was a practicing Catholic. If I am wrong about that... I apologise for even making a comment regarding baptism. I do not believe that it is possible to have a fruitful doctrinal discussion with someone who is an active member of the Catholic church because their premise on entering ANY argument is that they belong to the ONE TRUE CHURCH. It is an uneven playing field from the get go and personally... .I do not desire to engage in these types of discussions because they never accomplish anything and are most often CIRCULAR arguments. ( That is just my humble opinion )... and it is how I protect myself. So without having offended anyone... Please accept this disclaimer moving forward. I will be very mindful to stay clear of any discussion that could cause division and strife. God bless everyone.