The Beast's Economic System

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It surely is in South Africa, and you as parent can be thrown into jail if you do not comply, states the law. And yet, there are many children roaming the streets of every town and city in this beautiful country.
Not sure how that works.
Not enforced, I guess.
 
Yes you're right.
I wonder if it's like that in other countries also.
I mean, it seems to me that the only time law is vigorously enforced here is if government knows it can confiscate property and assets of large value, otherwise it is regarded as one of those things.
Sorry we are going off topic, but I'm just trying to establish if all countries are not more or less in the same place of decay, which pulls through to end times and the establishment of the antichrist.
 

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Yes you're right.
I wonder if it's like that in other countries also.
I mean, it seems to me that the only time law is vigorously enforced here is if government knows it can confiscate property and assets of large value, otherwise it is regarded as one of those things.
Sorry we are going off topic, but I'm just trying to establish if all countries are not more or less in the same place of decay, which pulls through to end times and the establishment of the antichrist.
I believe so.
 
I might have to study revelation again as there are different things said about the beast(s)' the dragon, the false prophet, the anti christ.

False prophet obviously false churches, counterfeit, apostate church/religion
Beast seems to be kingdoms or economic systems.
Dragon...satan or his powers comtrolling it all. One that kills christians and innocent babes.
Anti christ - a powerful man everyone will worship who sets himself up as God and opposes christians.

Just trying to sort this out in my head. I agree with what arrie and dan in lions den said..anti christ is a puppet of satan.
 
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Do you think that there is a possibility that God was talking about spiritual Israel, the body of believers?

No. The Antichrist will be opposing earthly Israel, just like Hitler, for he knows that they are favoured by God. Spiritual Israel will not be here.
 
I believe he WAS talking about spiritual Israel as you say Juk. Throughout the bible(both old and new testament) God refers to a remnant or elect that he saves. He can't be referring to physical Israel(as a people) if He Himself killed a lot of them throughout the old testament. Please refer to Romans 9:6-7(specifically) and also read till the end of chapter 11 and the beginning of chapter 9 to get the context.
 
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Just for starters, without commentary:

1 Corinthians 15:51-54
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Luke 17:26-30 (AMP)
Revelation 4:1
1 Thessalonians 5:1-9
Luke 21:36
 

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Just for starters, without commentary:

1 Corinthians 15:51-54
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Luke 17:26-30 (AMP)
Revelation 4:1
1 Thessalonians 5:1-9
Luke 21:36
Most of those verses were talking about the resurrection of all, or the swift destruction of the wicked.
 
Um..the passage in Luke, talking about all...God destroyed them all..he was NOT talking about the body of Christ.

God sent the flood, destroyed them all...except for Noah and the animals on the ark, they were saved.
God destroyed Sodom, with fire and brimstone...all of it was destroyed. Only Lot and his family rescued and saved.
Jesus said destruction would come, we be saved out of it. He did not airlift Lot or Noah to heaven like he did Elisha. Noah had to buld that ark...Lot had to listen to God and flee to the mountains. They had to prepare.

Sorry euphemia I think you just confusing ppl a bit here. It would help if you use biblical terms not rapture cos ppl get that confused with unbiblical doctrines floating round all the time. You know..88 reasons why the rapture will happen in 1988 etc etc. well we all know that didnt happen!
 
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Resurrection is guaranteed for believers, so theres nothing to worry about anyway. Keep your eyes on Jesus, not what everyone else is claiming.
 
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