God bless you Stan, and thaks for the compliment. I tried to make it understandable for all to read.
SO.......YOU say we are not born with a sin nature.
Do we just develope it as we grow? Is there is time when it jumps on us.
NO, Stan, you are ver wrong. I know you mean well but..........we must alwys consider the Scriptures when posting such claims.
Romans 5:12: “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned”
Acts 17:26 “And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth”.
Because we all come from the same original man we inherited his flawed makeup of nature. Sin entered the world through the first man and spread to all his offspring- this happened by Adam sinning. Death is a result of sin, it was the result of sin. It occurred two ways. First God told Adam the day you eat of it you will die, Adam was separated from the Lord he died spiritually and was severed in his relationship. Second- He died physically, which was a result of his nature change. Aging and death began on that day. Both were a result from his disobedience in eating the fruit of the tree. 1 Cor.15:56: “the sting of death is sin,..”
Romans 5:18-19 says, "through one man's trespass, judgment came to all men, for by one man's disobedience all were made sinners."
1 Cor. 15:22: “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.” Death came by Adam and the resurrection can only come to mankind by believing in Jesus Christ.
Later, God brought the law for us to see our sin measured by his standard. Gal 3:19 “Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions,.., until the seed should come to whom the promise had been made.”
Rom. 5:20-21 “Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Because of our fallen humanity we cannot act apart from our nature. We can see the sin nature at work even in a child who is not trained in behavior as a child disobeys and is selfish naturally, they do not need to learn this. The Bible says we act on our nature. The Psalmist says Ps.58:3 “the wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth speaking lies.
We don't just make up our mind to sin or make a mistake and go from being perfect to being sinful. Eph. 2:3 “and were by nature the children of wrath”
James 1:14-15 “But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.”
As for children going to hell. IF you had read back through the posts, you would have found that we had a very long discussion on just that several months ago. I was and I am a believer that babies go to heaven at death.
If you had asked me in a nice Christian way, I am sure we could have discussed it, but this will do for now.
Yes Major, we MUST consider scripture... ACCURATELY... and none of the scripture you provide above supports your assertion that we are born with sin. If we are born with sin then how do babies get saved?
Paul says in many places in Romans that where there is no law there is no sin. Eph 2:3 is talking about adults, NOT children.
Psalm 139:14 says; I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.