It doesn't make sense that Jesus prayed to himself. When He taught the disciples to pray He opened with "Our Father, which art in heaven". He said to ask for things in His name (Closing the prayer) but we address it to Our Father. He said my Father and I are one, at His baptism we have all three mentioned. We have biblical proof of our triune GOD.
What Are The Doctrines In The Bible?
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Thanks brother for the response. I know that you are not denying the Trinity however.....Those who deny the deity of Jesus typically force a limitation on a specific word penned within the Gospels. This time it is the word “pray”.
So then, speaking of "prayer", According to the gospels, the word pray has different definitions depending on the context and who it is being used by.
In other words, the definition of the word pray does not have to be limited to a communication between a being of a GREATER nature with a being of a LOWER one.
Good stuff!
4. The Doctrine of Scripture: The Bible is the inspired and authoritative Word of God, written by human authors under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Logos and Rhema There are two main Greek words for the Scriptures that are translated word in the New Testament. Logos refers to the totality of the inspired Word of God and to Jesus, the Living Word. Rhema means “an utterance” and refers to the spoken, or personally applied, Word of God. https://www.ministerialassociation.org/
When I read the word Rhema used here... I do not get the full impact of what I learned Rhema to mean... which was GOD-BREATHED.... The Holy Scriptures are GOD-BREATHED. WOW.
I think of the Apostles being filled with the HOLY SPIRIT while writing what GOD was telling them to write... I think of things like... How long did it take them? Were they able to even speak afterwards? How did their lives change afterwards?
To me... this is another ESSENTIAL... and one that is deeply lacking in the modern church today.
Logos and Rhema There are two main Greek words for the Scriptures that are translated word in the New Testament. Logos refers to the totality of the inspired Word of God and to Jesus, the Living Word. Rhema means “an utterance” and refers to the spoken, or personally applied, Word of God. https://www.ministerialassociation.org/
When I read the word Rhema used here... I do not get the full impact of what I learned Rhema to mean... which was GOD-BREATHED.... The Holy Scriptures are GOD-BREATHED. WOW.
I think of the Apostles being filled with the HOLY SPIRIT while writing what GOD was telling them to write... I think of things like... How long did it take them? Were they able to even speak afterwards? How did their lives change afterwards?
To me... this is another ESSENTIAL... and one that is deeply lacking in the modern church today.
5. The Doctrine of Sin: Sin entered the world through the rebellion of Adam and Eve against God. This is considered "Original Sin".
Not much one can say about that.... WE are born in sin because of the rebellion of Adam and Eve AGAINST God.
I'm not reading the list of your Doctrines beforehand.... so I don't know if this will be a topic on one of the others... but with this matter of SIN.... comes some very disturbing teachings.
In the Catholic church... it is believed that IF you die in a state of MORTAL sin
(( dying in a state of mortal sin means dying without repenting for a grave sin committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent, leading to eternal separation from God )).
So the above is the ISSUE of a person/priest having the AUTHORITY to forgive one of their sins which we know to be UNTRUE.
Then you have the teaching that one can reach what is known as SINLESS perfection.... which basically claims one can get to a point in their walk where they NO LONGER sin..... WHICH ironically is a SIN in itself.
Those are only two that I can think of... and SADLY.... many believe these lies to be TRUE.
Not much one can say about that.... WE are born in sin because of the rebellion of Adam and Eve AGAINST God.
I'm not reading the list of your Doctrines beforehand.... so I don't know if this will be a topic on one of the others... but with this matter of SIN.... comes some very disturbing teachings.
In the Catholic church... it is believed that IF you die in a state of MORTAL sin
(( dying in a state of mortal sin means dying without repenting for a grave sin committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent, leading to eternal separation from God )).
So the above is the ISSUE of a person/priest having the AUTHORITY to forgive one of their sins which we know to be UNTRUE.
Then you have the teaching that one can reach what is known as SINLESS perfection.... which basically claims one can get to a point in their walk where they NO LONGER sin..... WHICH ironically is a SIN in itself.
Those are only two that I can think of... and SADLY.... many believe these lies to be TRUE.
Good morning, my dear In "Awesome" of Him;
This is why the Christian Church have solid doctrines in place (such as this thread) since the Reformation of 1529. It's important to have this study and constant reminders of the true doctrines.
When we are equipped to know the Body of Teaching we can discern Churches that teach incorrectly and not aligned with God's Word.
My wife and I didn't understand wisdom and discernment when we were younger but we prayed and asked God to lead us to His Church. He did just that and we quietly moved on from exactly what you described.
Doctrines in the Bible isn't a quick workshop that one can just study and move on. The Doctrines must be a constant teaching and reminder as a way of God protecting us.
I hope many of us are encouraged by this teaching and can come back and revisit.
God bless you all.
Colossians 1:16.......
" For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him."
Does that then mean that It was Jesus who was responsible for the Word of God?
You should know that the Catholic Church views and teaches that original sin as distinct from personal sins committed by individuals.
Baptism, according to Catholic belief, removes the stain of original sin and restores grace. That is just one of the many un-biblical teachings in the RCC.
In 2 Peter 3:2 Peter says something very interesting..........
"that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior,".
However, like the Old Testament, their collection, and distinction from other written documents, was a gradual and continuous process that took a couple of centuries to complete.
What makes that interesting is that Peter is putting the commandments of the Apostles on the same level as the word spoken by the “holy prophets.”
I label this organization/government ( NOT worthy of being titled a religion... let alone considered Christian ). It is a CULT.
Nothing in this denomination is BIBLICAL. Sadly... many people... due to being saturated in the traditions from birth are not knowledgeable regarding the DEPTH of deception that occurs within the walls of this institution.
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6. The Doctrine of Atonement: Jesus Christ’s sacrificial death on the cross atones for the sins of humanity, for all who repent and believe in Jesus.
There are two words to come to mind here for me.
One is propitiation.... and the other is atonement.
My understanding is that these are both required but like our salvation.... PROPITIATION ( I love that word ) was a ONE time PERFECT SACRIFICE offered....OFFERED.... to God by CHRIST= the PERFECT SACRIFICE.... that APPEASED GOD's WRATH WOW.
I think especially of his time in the GARDEN where HE shed TEARS of BLOOD and talked with FATHER about IF there be any other way. Imagine ... being in full knowledge of what would be ahead of HIM.... the BRUTALITY in which HE would be treated... and HE still said YES.... WOW.
Then there is ATONEMENT which is for OUR BENEFIT. The MERCY SEAT allows us to declare CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS as our OWN. WOW. We are sinful... HE was NOT... but by FAITH in HIM.... HE washes us and declares us without SIN. WOW.
These are mind-boggling TRUTHS..... and they are HUMBLING. I wish Christians would be mandated to study this... It would certainly take care of the ARROGANCE of some.
NONE of us are WORTHY.... NONE of us are GOOD.... It is our CHOOSING of CHRIST as SAVIOUR that SAVES us.... THE END.
There are two words to come to mind here for me.
One is propitiation.... and the other is atonement.
My understanding is that these are both required but like our salvation.... PROPITIATION ( I love that word ) was a ONE time PERFECT SACRIFICE offered....OFFERED.... to God by CHRIST= the PERFECT SACRIFICE.... that APPEASED GOD's WRATH WOW.
I think especially of his time in the GARDEN where HE shed TEARS of BLOOD and talked with FATHER about IF there be any other way. Imagine ... being in full knowledge of what would be ahead of HIM.... the BRUTALITY in which HE would be treated... and HE still said YES.... WOW.
Then there is ATONEMENT which is for OUR BENEFIT. The MERCY SEAT allows us to declare CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS as our OWN. WOW. We are sinful... HE was NOT... but by FAITH in HIM.... HE washes us and declares us without SIN. WOW.
These are mind-boggling TRUTHS..... and they are HUMBLING. I wish Christians would be mandated to study this... It would certainly take care of the ARROGANCE of some.
NONE of us are WORTHY.... NONE of us are GOOD.... It is our CHOOSING of CHRIST as SAVIOUR that SAVES us.... THE END.
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You are 100% CORRECT my DEAR BOB!!!
I agree.
Jesus is the Word of God (Jn. 1:1).
I feel it comes down to the individual regardless of which denomination they follow. I'm not Catholic and don't plan to be but I'm also against finger pointing (judging others) we must follow our own beliefs and not worry about what others are doing. As Christians we shouldn't be labeling anyone.
Hi CapeCodder .... I posted the the two prior posts before your OWN post to me.... for reference on why I made the comment I did.
I believe from your words that you have kindly told me that I should NOT be making the comment that I did regarding the Catholic CHURCH which is an institution.
I have not judged any human being and thus I don't know how you have formed your opinion of what I stated...as we are INDEED commanded to discern and warn of FALSE teachings.
The denomination we follow/doctrines we embrace... are of utmost importance in order to walk properly and rightly with God.
Being a former member of this sect.... I have simply shared what I know to be true.
I agree that God will judge us INDIVIDUALLY.
God BLESS you CapeCodder
I know some Catholics that are solid people and firm believers. I think if you follow the word to the letter, you have nothing to worry about.
I appreciate your comment, but I hope that you realize that it is not supported by the Scriptures.
In fact, we are told as Christians to do the opposite. We as Christians are called to know and understand what sound Biblical doctrines are.
That calling is prevalent throughout the Old and New Testaments.
The warning from Jesus in Matthew 7:15 was...........
"Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."
Then in in 2 Peter 2:1, he warns us .........."But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves."
Peter's warning highlights the destructive nature of heresies and the ultimate judgment that awaits those who propagate them.
Now, if I had a penny for every time I have heard this said........."“How dare you judge me! Who are you to judge? The Bible says, ‘judge not lest ye be judged!’”
I would be living in Hawaii on the beach right now. Allow me to give an example about "judging".
At the little league game, Billy is playing right field on your child’s baseball team. He has dropped the third pop fly in a row.
Someone says.......“Billy isn’t having a very good day in the field.” That is making a judgment. It is also an observation of a real event.
However.........“Billy isn’t having a very good day in the field because he is a lazy and unfocused bum, and it’s obvious that his dad doesn’t spend any time playing catch with him. He’ll probably end up in and out of prison just like other members of his family.”
That is judgmental and that is also hypocritical and it is what Jesus told us not to do.
Matthew 7:1-5
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
You should notice, though, that Jesus says “then you will see clearly to remove the speck…” This shows us that making a judgment isn’t wrong. It is hypocritical judgment which Jesus is against. And hypocritical judgment is the root of what we might phrase “being judgmental.”
I will let this rest. GOD bless you. Major has done a far better job at explaining the IMPORTANCE of SOLID Doctrine than I could ever articulate.
Now, with all due respect to you, are you aware of some of the Non-Biblical traditions that are taught in the Catholic church?
Are you aware of the Tradition of Purgatory which is taught by the RCC?
Purgatory is a place or state where souls undergo purification before entering heaven. Catholics believe it’s a chance to cleanse venial sins.
Of course there is NO such place or state mentioned in the Bible.
Are you aware of the Immaculate Conception.
NOT of the Lord Jesus but of Mary. This belief states that Mary, Jesus’ mother, was born without original sin. It became official Catholic doctrine in 1854.
Of course, there is not one singel word or suggestion of this in the Bible.
Are you aware of the Papel Infallibility?
This tradition says that the Pope, as an Apostle and Vicar of Christ can and has changed and added to the morals and faith of all members. Of course this is condemned in Deut. 4:1-2 and the Revelation 22. God said nothing is to be added or taken away from the Word of God.
Are you aware of Priestly Celibacy?
It is the practice of the Priests in the RCC to not be married. It is absolutly the opposite of what the Bible tells us.
Now.....I am not saying these things to start a n argument or a confrontation. IT is not what I do. What I do is Teach the Word of God.
So then, having said that, if an organization does these non-Biblical things, do you think that we as Christians should turn our heads and ignore them and allow those people to be taught false non-Biblical traditions over and above the Word of God to their damnation?