What Do I Do With My Tarot Cards?
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I don't recall ever rating anyone's post as "dumb." I didn't even know that was an option.
KingJ, I see I did -- didn't even realize it. I undid it. Sorry for the mistake. I certainly wouldn't do it without an explanation.
Glomung
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As much as men would like to think that they can test anything with "science",
it is not possible to scientifically test some things.
There are a whole host of beings who absolutely refuse to be crammed into a test tube.
Take St. Michael for example, I would think he'd be a touch offended.
And you REALLY don't want to offend him.
it is not possible to scientifically test some things.
There are a whole host of beings who absolutely refuse to be crammed into a test tube.
Take St. Michael for example, I would think he'd be a touch offended.
And you REALLY don't want to offend him.
Expanding on that, there are even things that everyone, theists and atheists alike, regard as valid that can't be measured by science. Mathematical and logical truths can't be measured by science -- they are presupposed in scientific reasoning.
They could definitely do that! I heard a testimony of an evangelist who went to some villages in Zimbabwe. He said the power of the witches was un-deniable. Everyone in the village lived in fear of them. This made preaching easy as all he had to do was bind her / show all that Jesus is greater and the whole village would convert / listen to him preach all day long.
Really? The magic they did is the same like Harry Potter magic? I don't really believe that. But if it's true, did Severus Snape still started existing after I did all the rituals and made the wish that Severus Snape would exist before I was Christian?
No, creation = Creator God. Something falling = fallen angels. Fictionional Snape = JK Rowling.
Okay... But if the Harry Potter and other fairytale magic exists, then wouldn't it be possible to make fictional characters real because that would be like fairytale magic? In Harry Potter there was still spell named serpensortia that makes a snake exist by just using the wand... But I still don't believe that fairytale magic doesn't exist.
No... Polly doesn't have demons. We don't live in the middle ages people.
What a great statistic! Did you do a survey of possessed people to figure that out? You seem to know an awful lot about "demons", I learned that they are like vampires and need to be invited to come in! Is this in the bible somewhere? I must have missed it on my last read.
Witch craft is real, but not the way you're probably thinking of it. A witch, or "wiccan", is simply someone who practices nature worship. There are no witches that fly around on brooms and worship the devil, that's stuff for the movies. I just saw someone else said the same thing, so I guess I'm being a little redundant here.
To be fair, the bible says a lot of things that should not be taken quite literally. Case in point, the bible tells us that thought occurs in the heart. The kidneys ("reins") are the seat of conscience .(Note: This is not merely a poetic use of these terms, as is now claimed. In early times, it was actually believed that various body organs other than the brain were responsible for our thoughts, feelings, actions and the like. The heart was believed to be the seat of thought processes and beliefs, while the kidneys were thought to be the seat of conscience.) The bible was written over 2000 years ago, so it is not surprising that some of the thinking of the time is reflected in it. I don't mean this to say that the bible shouldn't be believed or followed, but that common sense should be used in interpreting it.
Witchcraft, in the real world, is at the bottom of a very long list of concerns. I am much more concerned about the growing gap between the rich and the poor, the destruction of God's Earth, and how man treats his fellows who might hold different beliefs than him.
Witchcraft etc in Africa is totally different to what we think of witch craft, especially when people call it Wicca and bring up harmless "White Witches" who do only good.
Juju and Voodoo are very real and powerful, of course people think its the Shaman, witchdoctor, Witch or whatever who has special powers, but they do not, just as Christians do not have any power. All power comes from the spiritual realm, GOd, Jesus Holy Spirit Satan and Demons, so things that happen are down to demonic powers at work.
The things that go on are very powerful and disturbing and it is obvious why people live in fear of these witches. It is very plausible that a Christian on an missionary trip there would end up blinding the witches to show Gods power is superior, of course the blinding would have been done by God.
Indeed that the Bible is a collection of books, some literal, some figurative, some poetry, some instruction, etc. etc.
I'm not accounting for witchcraft as the foreground issue against peoples' souls. Ultimately, the rejection of God is in the foreground of that, but witchcraft is not an exception from that either. The real damage witchcraft has on someone is it leaves their souls vulnerable for Satan.
I only mean to respond to the subject at hand.
RiverJordan
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?????? Can you show me where in the manufacturing process the "made to reach demons" part comes in?
There are? Where are they?You imply nothing happens when there are billions of demons on earth?
I would bet not at all in the way you do.
Like all our other exchanges, this comes down to you being a black/white thinker and absolute literalist, and me being more of a "shades of grey", put things in context person.
You sure are getting angry lately. One of the traits of fundamentalists is that they have very little tolerance for opinions or views that differ from their own. Is that what's going on here?This kind of stupidity may make you good freinds with atheists. We don't want to step on their toes with conservative views of scripture. But, it makes you look really stupid amongst any Christian who knows scripture, especially those in the mission field.
Who said anything about national TV? And of course, like so many other things...."the evidence may not be on my side now, but just wait until the end times!!"
Why? Since you've obviously been to something like that and can speak as an authority, what happens?
RiverJordan
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I have not heard of any using an Ouija board for scrabble.
Rev 12:7-12 answers that: And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
Cast to earth = cast to earth.
Rejecting scripture is not shades of grey, its black.
You are a difficult fish indeed River
. I have to reach deep to try help you reject your opinion and accept scripture. I am open to correction from scripture! We should all be!Yes, because if we apply some lateral thinking we can conclude...that if the devil will do miracles in the last days, why not now too? Re-read Rev 12:7012. The devil's presence is a ''woe to us''.Who said anything about national TV? And of course, like so many other things...."the evidence may not be on my side now, but just wait until the end times!!"
Have you watched much you-tube testimonies? Here is a good one:
Glomung
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All mockery on your part aside. I have studied Demonology and the Occult for more than 30 years. The statistic was from the Catholic Church in the US during the 1970s. Since Protestants are essentially worthless when it comes to doing exorcisms (except for the Lutherans) it is left up to the Catholic Church to bear the burden. You can invite them into your house, it is a blatantly stupid thing to do, but some do so.
You would be absolutely amazed what is NOT in the Bible, about 99.99% of reality.
It' not a math book, chemistry book, physics book, geology text, not even much of a history book, only covers a very small time period for a very small part of the world.
The Bible is about SALVATION and practically nothing else.
RiverJordan
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????? Answer the question. At what point in the manufacturing process is the "made to reach demons" function put in?
Gee, and there's absolutely no history at all of Revelations being misinterpreted, is there?
The verses right before that say, "Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth."
Do you believe that? Do you literally believe one third of all the stars in the universe were flung to the earth?
Sure, but no one here is rejecting scripture.
And one third of all the stars in the universe were swept to the earth.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. "YouTube testimonies"....right on par with objective testing. You really want to start basing your version of reality based on what people put on YouTube? Really?
But the fact that you apparently do that does explain a lot.