What is the worst form of discrimination?

NOT anti Paul, as he was my favorite author of the scriptures, was just saying that Paul told us from his own example in Romans that even if saved now, still must trust and lean upon the Holy Spirit in order to live as we ought now!
I see. Sorry for the misinterpretation. I agree with that 100%.
 
Think that Paul thought chief sinner due to blaspheming Lord Jesus and sending off His own to be killed and jailed before saved!

I am pretty sure that is what was on his mind. In fact brother.....many Bible scholars believe that Paul threw the 1st stone when Stephen was stoned.
 
Think Paul described to us being a Christian, but relying upon our flesh and own efforts to live the life we should be now, and ONLY can that by the Holy Spirit in us!

Agreed!
Hello YeshuaFan;

I'd like to add this is where our daily spiritual maturity come into play. I know what you and I just shared sounds fundamental, but to the seasoned Christian this is easier said than done.

Just when we feel we have made strides in Christ, we make a mistake or fall into another temptation. It can feel like a step backward.

Praise God He is always there to pull us back forward.

My dear brother......to me, the Christian life has always been 3 steps forward and then two steps backwards.

Just when I think I have the handle......the handle breaks!
 
mm probably the worst discrimination is the gender divide.
Men mostly have no idea what it means to be a woman and it's a real shame, because women are mostly made to feel inferior, as if we got no brains and can't use them.

Or if we have them, men seem to think that is a huge surprise.

Some of men's attitudes towards women need readjusting that's for sure!
 
mm probably the worst discrimination is the gender divide.
Men mostly have no idea what it means to be a woman and it's a real shame, because women are mostly made to feel inferior, as if we got no brains and can't use them.

Or if we have them, men seem to think that is a huge surprise.

Some of men's attitudes towards women need readjusting that's for sure!
Well, yeah, how can we have an idea what it means to be a woman, we are not women.

My boss is a woman and I consider her a mentor. She is probably one of only two people I have ever "worked for" that have inspired me to be better than what I am.

I work in public schools, in which women outnumber men, so I see a little of that attitude in the other direction.

rtm
 
I think about this too from both men and women. In these times of trained, developed skills, education and opportunities do men still feel that women are inferior? Are women beginning to see men as losing their leadership skills?

Here's an observation. In humorous tv commercials I have noticed women are the smarter ones that men. Is this a hint that women see men as inferior in ability?

I'm a huge fan of the US national men and women's soccer teams. (Lanolin, please check out the New Zealand's women's soccer team.) The women on the US team have incredible leadership and speaking skills, some on the team are Christian that have converted some of the other players.
 
mm probably the worst discrimination is the gender divide.
Men mostly have no idea what it means to be a woman and it's a real shame, because women are mostly made to feel inferior, as if we got no brains and can't use them.

Or if we have them, men seem to think that is a huge surprise.

Some of men's attitudes towards women need readjusting that's for sure!
Yes, but not the extreme of today that seems to be going for shaming men, and to try to make men no longer to be masculine!
 
mm probably the worst discrimination is the gender divide.
Men mostly have no idea what it means to be a woman and it's a real shame, because women are mostly made to feel inferior, as if we got no brains and can't use them.

Or if we have them, men seem to think that is a huge surprise.

Some of men's attitudes towards women need readjusting that's for sure!



I would think the worst discrimination is the resistance of hearing the understanding of God's living abiding word.

All flesh matters. Lean on Him. He cares for His creation.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 King James Version (KJV) Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
 
mm probably the worst discrimination is the gender divide.
Men mostly have no idea what it means to be a woman and it's a real shame, because women are mostly made to feel inferior, as if we got no brains and can't use them.

Or if we have them, men seem to think that is a huge surprise.

Some of men's attitudes towards women need readjusting that's for sure!
I would think the worst discrimination is the resistance of hearing the understanding of God's living abiding word and having no desire to work to hear. . It shows up in men's bad attitudes towards women ..When and if we do make it about the temporal flesh then toghter we lose our new ears as new creatures. : All flesh matters. But it is not that in which we wrestle against.. “Christian” like the word “Israel” a word that means (he who wrestles against flesh and blood and is overcome or empowered because he has the born again Spirit of Christ .If any man have not the Spirit of Christ they simply do not belong to Him as a member the bride. .

All flesh matters. Lean on Him. He cares for His creation moving in them to both will and empower them to perfomhis good pleasure .

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 King James Version (KJV) Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

When and if we do make it about the temporal flesh we can lose our new ears as new creatures. : "All flesh matters". But it is not that in which we wrestle against.. “Christian” like the word “Israel” a word that means (he who wrestles against flesh and blood and is overcome or empowered because he has the born again Spirit of Christ .If any man have not the Spirit of Christ they simply do not belong to Him as a member the bride. .
 
I would think the worst discrimination is the resistance of hearing the understanding of God's living abiding word.

All flesh matters. Lean on Him. He cares for His creation.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 King James Version (KJV) Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Worst could be knowing the jesus is the savior , and yet refuse to tell others who are lost about him, as do not wish to "offend them"
 
Maybe they just can't afford to have children, don't have a home, or too young.
Some people mistakenly think it's easier to kill a baby than maybe offer them a home and education and parents to look after them.

When you under 18 I think its parents that pressure you either way. I don't know about those who are older than 18 though. Its not just the mums, its the potential dads who also don't want to be dads. It's unfair to blame just the mothers. It's even the potential grandparents who can't be bothered.

I don't think the genocides people actually claim to care. They just think it's in the interest of the one who is pregnant and her life, which she will have to sacrifice to take care of the child, and if the dad doesn't want to take care of the child then answer me this. Who will?

Are there enough adoption/orphanages/aunties and uncles who will look after the child, teach breastfeeding, pay for nappies, and then a cot, clothes and school?

If it's hard to afford to do all this for those already alive, then what choices do people have, you got to think of this. Either you sacrifice yourself, or your child. I think that for those who choose abortion they are choosing the child. It's not right, but put yourself in their shoes. What options do mothers have, especially if the the dads are not interested. Can they access child support? Is it easy being a solo mum? Are churches supporting solo mums? Are churches teaching men how to be dads?

Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Psalm 82:3

It's not justice to stand by and allow unborn children to be slaughtered.

That said, there is adoption as an option for young unmarried women, they don't have to raise the child themselves, all we ask is they don't murder them.
 
Worst could be knowing the jesus is the savior , and yet refuse to tell others who are lost about him, as do not wish to "offend them"


Yes they would seem to have lost the gift of sensitivity to warn others in a way that could be pleasing to our God. Calloused no sensitivity or spiritual leprosy. Rather than saying; "let the blind lead the blind", warn them of the thorn bush ahead the sting of the law according to its letter "death". For the sake of two find a way to rebuke our neighbor knowing only God as the unseen Lord can rebuke the un clean spirit of error. . pray for one another in that way .Don’t be quick to shake the sand off of our own feet … love your neighbor as thyself.Do that as much as posible keeping the peace of God with ones self the high goal again as two walking together.Then we can love being filled with His

Leviticus 19:16-18 King James Version (KJV) Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

Like salt used in the Bible used two ways added to all sacrifices Salt preseves as it also destroys in judgment .In that way have a little salt when offering the gospel of healing .Then perhaps we can give our feet a rest.
 
Maybe they just can't afford to have children, don't have a home, or too young.
Some people mistakenly think it's easier to kill a baby than maybe offer them a home and education and parents to look after them.

When you under 18 I think its parents that pressure you either way. I don't know about those who are older than 18 though. Its not just the mums, its the potential dads who also don't want to be dads. It's unfair to blame just the mothers. It's even the potential grandparents who can't be bothered.

I don't think the genocides people actually claim to care. They just think it's in the interest of the one who is pregnant and her life, which she will have to sacrifice to take care of the child, and if the dad doesn't want to take care of the child then answer me this. Who will?

Are there enough adoption/orphanages/aunties and uncles who will look after the child, teach breastfeeding, pay for nappies, and then a cot, clothes and school?

If it's hard to afford to do all this for those already alive, then what choices do people have, you got to think of this. Either you sacrifice yourself, or your child. I think that for those who choose abortion they are choosing the child. It's not right, but put yourself in their shoes. What options do mothers have, especially if the the dads are not interested. Can they access child support? Is it easy being a solo mum? Are churches supporting solo mums? Are churches teaching men how to be dads?

Hey Lanolin;

Much of what you said is sad. My wife was describing almost the same thing in parts of the Philippine provinces, solo mums.

Province life for a majority of women is being a "stay home mum" while more favorable opportunities fall for men in farming, driver, cleaning and other sorts of jobs. Some families can have up to 6 children with one person working.

Province life can be very backward and discriminating when the women gets pregnant, the man can bail out, especially if he is out of work.

Adoption/orphanages are precious because most of them are filled up. So this puts the mum in a position to take on undesirable ways to make money to feed her babies.


The mum's parents, families and churches in these provinces do the best they can to help support solo mums but there is always little money and are overwhelmed with other mothers and her babies.

Good news is, there are some wonderful testimonies where both parents are able to raise their children, finish grade and high school, some have been blessed with a college scholarship, build their careers and then help their parents out.
 
Yes they would seem to have lost the gift of sensitivity to warn others in a way that could be pleasing to our God.

I placed in bold the part that is relevant to my reply.

An issue so few consider is that anytime you challenge someone's deeply held beliefs it has a tendency to incite a strong reaction.

This is why Jesus said I don't come to bring peace but a sword in Matthew 10:34: and in Hebrews 4:12 it is written,

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

as anyone can surmise from the speech used here, a sword that can do all that is sharp indeed and the wounds it has the ability to open can be exceedingly deep.

While in whatever way we are able we should share Christ with those who don't know Him, not every believer is gifted to what it may entail to actually bring someone from where they are, to a saving faith in Christ.

As posited in 1 Corinthians 12, the body of Christ works best, when it works according to the way God has gifted His people, and He doesn't gift us all alike. People as a whole may run into issues trying to operate outside of their own God-given ability.

If God gifted someone in a completely different area, they're going to run into problems attempting to take on the mantle of prophet or teacher or apostle. Yet people attempt to do it every day.

It's better to operate within one's own gifts at 100% capacity while allowing others to operate within theirs. Because when people go into defense mode because someone's shared with them God's Word and it's dividing their joints from their marrow, some Christians may be ill equipped to deal with the resulting reactions and arguments that pain brings forth.

This doesn't mean don't share our faith, but for some Christians it may mean share it in a different way, like inviting an individual to church with you, or buying that lost individual a well written book on our faith for them to read at leisure and simply being an example of the faith in action in whatever way your gifted, because in the end the way that is pleasing to God isn't intended to sound pleasant to the ears of lost men, nor will it.

If you have a "cool" faith much loved by lost men, you likely don't have Christ at all.

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you." John 15:18-19

Just some thoughts anyway.
 
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Yes they would seem to have lost the gift of sensitivity to warn others in a way that could be pleasing to our God. Calloused no sensitivity or spiritual leprosy. Rather than saying; "let the blind lead the blind", warn them of the thorn bush ahead the sting of the law according to its letter "death". For the sake of two find a way to rebuke our neighbor knowing only God as the unseen Lord can rebuke the un clean spirit of error. . pray for one another in that way .Don’t be quick to shake the sand off of our own feet … love your neighbor as thyself.Do that as much as posible keeping the peace of God with ones self the high goal again as two walking together.Then we can love being filled with His

Leviticus 19:16-18 King James Version (KJV) Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

Like salt used in the Bible used two ways added to all sacrifices Salt preseves as it also destroys in judgment .In that way have a little salt when offering the gospel of healing .Then perhaps we can give our feet a rest.
Were not the Prophets sent by God to announce that the nation was going wayword, and was soon to face judgement, and yet God still had mercy if they but turned back to Him?
 
I placed in bold the part that is relevant to my reply.

An issue so few consider is that anytime you challenge someone's deeply held beliefs it has a tendency to incite a strong reaction.

This is why Jesus said I don't come to bring peace but a sword in Matthew 10:34: and in Hebrews 4:12 it is written,

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

as anyone can surmise from the speech used here, a sword that can do all that is sharp indeed and the wounds it has the ability to open can be exceedingly deep.

While in whatever way we are able we should share Christ with those who don't know Him, not every believer is gifted to what it may entail to actually bring someone from where they are, to a saving faith in Christ.

As posited in 1 Corinthians 12, the body of Christ works best, when it works according to the way God has gifted His people, and He doesn't gift us all alike. People as a whole may run into issues trying to operate outside of their own God-given ability.

If God gifted someone in a completely different area, they're going to run into problems attempting to take on the mantle of prophet or teacher or apostle. Yet people attempt to do it every day.

It's better to operate within one's own gifts at 100% capacity while allowing others to operate within theirs. Because when people go into defense mode because someone's shared with them God's Word and it's dividing their joints from their marrow, some Christians may be ill equipped to deal with the resulting reactions and arguments that pain brings forth.

This doesn't mean don't share our faith, but for some Christians it may mean share it in a different way, like inviting an individual to church with you, or buying that lost individual a well written book on our faith for them to read at leisure and simply being an example of the faith in action in whatever way your gifted, because in the end the way that is pleasing to God isn't intended to sound pleasant to the ears of lost men, nor will it.

If you have a "cool" faith much loved by lost men, you likely don't have Christ at all.

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you." John 15:18-19

Just some thoughts anyway.
Know the audience, as there are some who really need to have the soft approach and present the Gospel and Bible to them, while others such as Muslims really respond better to a head on confrontational approach, as to therm being meek is being weak!
 
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