Why Did God Lie?

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I do understand why you believe. You think Jesus was sent because god loves us all but that's the way how you see the cloud. That's not the way how I see the same exact cloud. I am not saying you are wrong. because it's up to how people interpret the way how they see the world came to be.
I don't want to look at a cloud I want you to consider this gentle and kind Person and why He said He came to this world to save you and me?
 
Harriet tubman, she didn't want the slaves to continue being slaves so she invented the underground railroad.
the japanese version of robin hood (goemon), he stole from the rich and give to the needy
Marie curie - she discovered radioactivity
copornicus - did some mathematical equations and pondered about science
renaissance painter - showed perspective in drawings
and lots others

We wouldn't know more about philosophy without copornicus.

http://listverse.com/2013/03/22/top-10-most-famous-people/
Come on? None of these people can be compared the Jesus Christ and what He did? Are you trying to avoid a real discussion?
 
So whats the point in you coming here? Im mean really, what do you hope to accomplished or what knowledge is it that you are seeking?
 
I don't want to look at a cloud I want you to consider this gentle and kind Person and why He said He came to this world to save you and me?

Yeah, I already did considered christianity. The way I see it as they are looking as whatever they interpret the cloud. It just doesn't make any sense no matter how much you reason with me. I cannot see that cloud the same way as the way how you see the cloud. I am incapable of that.
 
Hey mods can I have this fellow for a little sport and fun?:) Have him in crying in about 20 post...:LOL:
Not that again, you failed with me and will fail again.

I still don't get your motivation in wanting to get someone crying in the first place either. And to want to do that for sport or fun says a lot about you.
 
So whats the point in you coming here? Im mean really, what do you hope to accomplished or what knowledge is it that you are seeking?

Well, I came here originally as a Christian but I am no longer a Christian, but I am still interested in how Christian view the world. even though I cannot see it that way.
 
Not that again, you failed with me and will fail again.

I still don't get your motivation in wanting to get someone crying in the first place either. And to want to do that for sport or fun says a lot about you.
Its because I understand what motivates those who come and attack my brothers and sisters in Christ. Take away that pride they are in and they melt away... but those who are respectful will receive my respect just as Baloou has received.
 
Well, I came here originally as a Christian but I am no longer a Christian, but I am still interested in how Christian view the world. even though I cannot see it that way.
I don't understand? You did believe in Christ and have decided that He is not what He claims?
 
I don't understand? You did believe in Christ and have decided that He is not what He claims?

I use to go to church, and follow scripture as my life was depended on it before. But after having discussion and analyzing stuff on my own, it is hard to believe something that says something about the afterlife.
 
I use to go to church, and follow scripture as my life was depended on it before. But after having discussion and analyzing stuff on my own, it is hard to believe something that says something about the afterlife.
I mean you said "you came here originally" as a Christian? So you do have some knowledge of who Jesus claimed to be, right?
 
Its because I understand what motivates those who come and attack my brothers and sisters in Christ. Take away that pride they are in and they melt away... but those who are respectful will receive my respect just as Baloou has received.
Do you ever refer to yourself in the third person?
 
I mean you said "you came here originally" as a Christian? So you do have some knowledge of who Jesus claimed to be, right?

Yeah. Jesus was supposedly God and loved everyone and was sent down here because he loved us all and wants to save us from sin or something. It's great that you believe that and I hope you continue to believe in whatever you want to believe in.
 
Yeah. Jesus was supposedly God and loved everyone and was sent down here because he loved us all and wants to save us from sin or something. It's great that you believe that and I hope you continue to believe in whatever you want to believe in.
Im glad that you respect our faith and have some understanding of it..did you ever receive the Spirit of Christ and was you "born-again"?
 
Im glad that you respect our faith and have some understanding of it..did you ever receive the Spirit of Christ and was you "born-again"?

I was baptized when I was younger, and I do admit that I was born again. At that time, I use to follow Jesus and accept him as my lord and saviour. but I lost faith. According to that gonefishing guy, that means I was never a christian since I have a hard time believing in any afterlife?
 
I was baptized when I was younger, and I do admit that I was born again, but I lost faith. According to that gonefishing guy, that means I was never a christian since I have a hard time believing in any afterlife?
Would you consider praying again to Jesus and asking Him to make things more clear to you?
 
Would you consider praying again to Jesus and asking Him to make things more clear to you?

I don't believe in power of prayers. If we are in a bad situation, it is us that actually do the work to make us be in a better situation. I had cancer and undergone surgery then went to therapy before and the cancer disappeared. I believe that the cancer was cured because of the fact that I went through surgery and gone to therapy, not because of Jesus. If I never went to surgery or go to therapy, the cancer would have still stayed in me.
 
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