"Forever and ever" is from "aionios", which can mean two things: duration that is undefined but not endless or undefined because endless". What proof do you have that we should read it as "undefined because endless"?
All I can say to you is that I quoted the exact Words found in the Scriptures as you requested. Do you really think that I did not know exactly what your response would be? I knew you would use the comments that you used to make your opinion valid.
Revelation 20:10 is clear and understandable and it is the answer to you question. The wicked lost will be preserved in judgment BUT NOT ANNIHILATED. There will be never ending mental agony and physical suffering. The wicked lost Christ rejecters scoff at the concept of anyone or anything being preserved in fire.
How quickly we forget that which we do not believe to begin with. Was it not Christ Himself that spoke out of a BURNING bush and yet the bush was not consumed? Were not the 3 Hebrew children delivered from the firey furnace and one like the Son of God was there with them and they were not harmed neither did they even smell of smoke?
Mark 9:49English (ESV)
" For everyone will be salted with fire".
It would be a lot easier for you Phoneman to simply say....."I do not believe that Luke 16 is part of the Bible" than it is to work so hard to support a belief that does not exist in any way in the Bible.
Now, you are not going to like what I say to you now, and you will of course reject it, but this teaching of ANNILIAHTION which you are working so very hard to believe actually comes from some cult groups and the biggest of them are the Jehovah Witnesses.
That is because they deny the existence of hell. and heaven. So in order to get around the doctrine of hell which is taught in so many places in Scripture, a new teaching was needed and that was annihilation. I just wanted you to be completely aware of what you are espousing.
Lets consider the Scriptures that you are rejecting. They can not be "explained away" my brother. They are either accepted or rejected.
This is a rather long post which I hate to do but it seems at this point it is needed to show my brother Phoneman his erroneous teaching on "anniliahtion".
Mat 18:8 KJV...........
"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into
everlasting fire."
Here the Bible is very clear that the fire will be everlasting. "pur to aiwnion" (pur to aionion) which translated means "the eternal fire." The punishment will be eternal.
Mat 25:41 KJV...........
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed,
into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
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This verse is teaching the same thing which Matthew 18:8 is teaching with the same Greek words, an eternal fire.
Mat 25:46 KJV.........
" And these shall go away into
everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
This verse teaches the same truth except there is a different word used instead of fire and it is the word ""kolasis" which means a judicial penalty, punishment, or chastisement. It used in 1 John 4:18 where it is translated "torment." If a person is annihilated or ceases to exist, then how could they experience an eternal punishment.
2 Th 1:9 KJV .......
"Who shall be
punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power".
This almost seems like an oxymoron for how can one be destroyed eternally? However, this is a word which is defined by the context in which it is used. The term is used in 1 Thessalonians 5:3, "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." The term for destruction is "oleqron" (olethron) which means a "destruction, ruin, or death." So there is no conflict in using this word because in 1 Thess. 5:3, the destruction is sudden but in 2 Thess 1:9 the destruction lasts eternally. The first, destruction is on earth but the second destruction is in Hell.
Mark 3:29 (KJV) ........
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness,
but is in danger of eternal damnation"
The words here may also be translated "eternal judgment." This shows that the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit carries with it the penalty of eternality under judgment.
Jude 1:7 (KJV) ............
"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of
eternal fire."
Here we see a great example of what the fires of hell are going to be like. All those who are not found in Christ will suffer eternal fire. Sodom and Gomorrha showed us that God’s judgment will be swift but the penalty He prescribes will be eternal which was prefigured by the fires which destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha.
Mat 8:29 9KJV)...........
"And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to
torment us before the time?"
This is an interesting verse. The demons knew who Christ was and are definitely cognizant of the fact they will face torment after they are thrown into hell on the last day. Notice the phrase "before the time" because they know the time is coming when they shall be cast into hell eternally.
Rev 14:11 9KJV)............
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And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."
Now here is a passage which states explicitly that their torment will be suffered forever. The word torment is "basanismos" (basanismos) which means torture or torment and is peculiar to the Book of Revelation. Now if a person is annihilated and ceases to exist, then how would that person suffer torment for eternity? The answer is simple, it cannot. If something does not exist or ceases to exist then they simply cannot experience anything good or bad.
Mark 9:43-48 (KJV) ...........
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to
go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: {44} Where their worm dieth not, and the
fire is not quenched. {45} And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet
to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: {46} Where their worm dieth not, and
the fire is not quenched. {47} And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be
cast into hell fire: {48} Where their worm dieth not, and the
fire is not quenched.
Here are some of the most ominous verses in Scripture which teach that anyone unsaved will be cast into hell’s fire and that fire will never be quenched. The word is "sbennumi" (sbennumi) which means "to extinguish, suppress or subdue." This fire will never be subdued or lessened.
Notice also the verses speak of a worm. Jesus is speaking of the worm in context of the Gehenna garbage dump in which human bodies were sometimes thrown into. The term "worm " may also be translated maggots and the Gehenna fires gave the maggots an unending source of food. So the sinner in hell also gives the fire an unending source of fuel since it will take all eternity to pay for their sins and this is why the fire can never go out. The worm could have two possible definitions or maybe more but I would like to offer two. Keep in mind that whatever this worm is, it will never die which means it is eternal and not annihilated.
1) Everyone who is cast into hell will have all the lusts and desires they had on earth, but will never be able to have them fulfilled. For example, if a person consistently lusts after sex, they may have the strongest desire for sex in hell but that craving will never be satisfied.
2) They will have full recall of all the times they heard the gospel and mocked and rejected it. This worm might be the recollections of those mockings and rejections. The lusts and recollections will eat away at a person as a lion eats its prey. Remember how fully cognizant the rich man was in hell, his senses and his recall were not diminished in the least.
I have given you sufficient amount of Scripture which completely refutes the idea that there will be annihilation after judgment. The truth of Scripture reveals that after the Great White Throne judgment the unbeliever will be required by penalty of God’s law to pay for their own sins in an eternity in hell and that hell will be a real place of torment away from the presence of the Lord. If you are relying on no eternal punishment because your leaders have told you this, then they have lied to you. It is just that simple.
You can comment, debate, make sarcastic comments all you want, but I say once again to you that there is no such thing in the holy Scriptures as annihilation of the body, soul and spirit.