Are All Sins The Same

[JustPassingThru]

Do you think yahweh judges all sins the same.

I must say yes, if there were different degrees of sin and punishment then wouldn't Jesus have to have suffered more than once for each different sin?

The word sin in the New Testament is hamartia which comes from a root word to miss the mark, like in archery when we miss the target, so all sin is missing the mark, ...the mark being God's perfection. So, sinning doesn't make us sinners, but rather because we are sinners we sin, it doesn't matter if we miss the target (mark) by two inches or ten feet, we have still missed it, ...hence we are all sinners of the same degree.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[KingJ]

I must say yes, if there were different degrees of sin and punishment then wouldn't Jesus have to have suffered more than once for each different sin?

The word sin in the New Testament is hamartia which comes from a root word to miss the mark, like in archery when we miss the target, so all sin is missing the mark, ...the mark being God's perfection. So, sinning doesn't make us sinners, but rather because we are sinners we sin, it doesn't matter if we miss the target (mark) by two inches or ten feet, we have still missed it, ...hence we are all sinners of the same degree.

Blessings,

Gene

Jesus's death was 'suffering' at the maximum level since He is God and was at the mercy of the devil and mankind. We however will be at His mercy on our judgement day. Also, the wages of sin is death. Death is not necessarily suffering, it is a state out of God's presence. Hence Jesus said 'My God, my God why has thy forsaken me', the start of His plunge into death.

There will be no sin in God's presence, that is the only time we can say sin = sin. But to say there are not degrees means you need to 1. disagree with the consequence of disobedience to every law from God in scripture and 2. the mere definition of ''judgement''.

It pleased God that a thief got his hands chopped off, murderers stoned to death, sorcerers burnt at the stake, some excommunicated, disobedient children wonder the desert for 40 years and lastly, it pleased God that a panel of elders judge the wrongs of an individual before sentence was passed out. White throne judgement day. To assume a God who urges us to judge and shows us His judgement will suddenely not judge in the afterlife according to levels of rebellion and sin makes no sense.

If the unsaved can see the importance of dishing out different sentences how much more us and God? What do you think about the verse that says we will judge angels? 1 Cor 6:3.

 

[JustPassingThru]

KingJ said,

Jesus's death was suffering at the maximum level since He is God and was at the mercy of the devil and mankind. We however will be at His mercy on our judgement day.

I don't really understand your usage of mercy in the sentence, mercy=not getting what you deserved, are you saying Jesus deserved more than scourging, crucifixion, etc. by the hands of the devil and men, but was let off with a lighter sentance?

What I have found is Scripture teaches God poured out His wrath on Jesus instead of you and me, Acts 2;23

and the devil and men didn't have any part in it except as pawns in the hand of God. 1 Cor 2:8

And I don't understand what you mean we will be at His mercy on our judgement day, ...there is no judgement day for me, Jesus took all of my judgement on the cross.

There will be no sin in God's presence, that is the only time we can say sin = sin. But to say there are not degrees means you need to 1. disagree with the consequence of disobedience to every law from God in scripture and 2. the mere definition of ''judgement''.

Sorry, I have no idea what you are saying or the point you are trying to make, can you perhaps add some Scripture references to help me better understand,

and there are four words for judgement in the New Testament, 3 of which we are commanded by Jesus, Paul and James to use to judge with and 1 that is reserved strictly to God, please, which one are you referring too?

It pleased God to torture people???? That's not the loving, kind, gentle, longsuffering, merciful, gracious Heavenly Father I know.

If the unsaved can dish out sentences how much more us? What do you think about the verse that says we will judge angels? 1 Cor 6:3

I don't have the slightest idea and I'm content to wait for that time, cuz angels are bad dudes and I certainly don't want to make a mistake with one of them.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[Jake]

As soon as I saw the heading on this thread one scripture did stand out to me. Referring to 1 Corinthians 6:18

"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body"

This verse clearly states that anyone who sins sexually in anyway sins against his/her own body. All other sins are outside the body. Without going further into the details of this verse to answer your question! NO all sins are not the same.

There are different degrees and ONLY God can judge because he knows the heart/motive and intention of a human being. We on the other hand are called to love on people..
Hope that helped..

Peace

 

[KingJ]

KingJ said,
I don't really understand your usage of mercy in the sentence, mercy=not getting what you deserved, are you saying Jesus deserved more than scourging, crucifixion, etc. by the hands of the devil and men, but was let off with a lighter sentance? What I have found is Scripture teaches God poured out His wrath on Jesus instead of you and me, Acts 2;23 and the devil and men didn't have any part in it except as pawns in the hand of God. 1 Cor 2:8

God 'pouring out His wrath' was Him subjecting Jesus to death by humans and the devil, why is that confusing? You imagine God did something else to Jesus?

And I don't understand what you mean we will be at His mercy on our judgement day, ...there is no judgement day for me, Jesus took all of my judgement on the cross.

You will have a Bema Seat Judgement Rom 14:10, 1 Corinthians 4:5.

Sorry, I have no idea what you are saying or the point you are trying to make, can you perhaps add some Scripture references to help me better understand,

You want me to find scripture showing that thieves had their hands chopped off and murderers were stoned? This subject requires common sense and a little lateral thought.

and there are four words for judgement in the New Testament, 3 of which we are commanded by Jesus, Paul and James to use to judge with and 1 that is reserved strictly to God, please, which one are you referring too?

Judgement = judgement, care to better prove your point or you enjoy sending me on a goose chase ?

It pleased God to torture people???? That's not the loving, kind, gentle, longsuffering, merciful, gracious Heavenly Father I know.

What specific line of mine are you quoting?

 

[Brother_Mike_V]

Yes, there is a hierarchy in Heaven. But, as Jesus alluded to in the parable of the laborers, all get the same rewards regardless of whether they started laboring at 6 a.m. or 2 p.m..

Right, the equal treatment is Salvation-eternal life in 'heaven'.

But are you going to say with the other scriptures presented that there is not a differentiation from those who toiled long and loved versus those who truly accepted but not truly repented? I don't think we stop learning after we die here.

In my opinion; the Bible is just the 'preface' to eternity. That's why we don't know much about the after life....

 

[Panda]

To "be at someone's mercy" is a really common colloquial phrase. What it means "to be at their mercy" is that "they" have all the ability to bring harm, and we either cannot or will not protect ourselves from their wrath.

Mercy does not equal not getting what you deserve (Well, it is, but that is a very, very specific definition). It is defined as compassion or forbearance, so again to "be at their mercy" simply means that (in this case) Jesus, having refused to protect himself, could only rely on Satan's compassion to protect him from harm. That compassion did not exist, so the pain and suffering he experienced was the result of a merciless mock judge.

 

[JustPassingThru]

Jake,

Friend, the verse you quoted is the point of Paul's discussion, all other sins are out side of the body, the word fornication is porneia which means any kind of sexual immorality, when we sin sexually, the act or watching pornography, we are joining the Holy Spirit and Jesus against their will to participate in our sexual sin, our bodies are a part of Christ 1 Cor 6:15, and we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit 1 Cor 6:19, the reason the sin of sexual immorality, porneia is worse than other sin is not only does it separate us from God Isa 59:1,2, but it destroys our own soul Pro 6:32, ...so, after saying that, the verse is talking about actions, I don't see it as verse can be used to demonstrate God's judgement.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[JustPassingThru]

KingJ, we don't see God's wrath poured out on His Son until noon, I guess you could say the devil was behind the men's actions, fueling their wrath, but all that was finished before noon.

The Bema Seat of Christ is not for judging us, per se, it's for testing our works here on earth, I'm not being judged, but rather my works, those done in the flesh will be burned away, those done in the Spirit will remain.

No J, you said Father took pleasure in these actions, that's not the God I serve and that flies in the face of the character of God shown throughout the whole Bible.

Judgement = judgement, care to better prove your point or you enjoy sending me on a goose chase ?

The study of Scripture is never a wild goose chase, so I'll let you discover the pleasure of learning from the Lord, check out Strong's #: G350, G1252, G5273 commanded by Jesus, Paul and James and G2919 never by men, reserved only by God.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[KingJ]

No J, you said Father took pleasure in these actions, that's not the God I serve and that flies in the face of the character of God shown throughout the whole Bible.

Everything God does pleases Him. He does what pleases Him . When God gives punishment for sin it pleases Him. I am not sure what 'torturing' you were harping on?

The study of Scripture is never a wild goose chase, so I'll let you discover the pleasure of learning from the Lord, check out Strong's #: G350, G1252, G5273 commanded by Jesus, Paul and James and G2919 never by men, reserved only by God.

This does not change the fact that judgement = judgement. I wanted to hear from you how you see judgement as meaning something other then the English definition of it. Are you saying that only God can judge?

 

[JustPassingThru]

I wanted to hear from you how you see judgement as meaning something other then the English definition of it. Are you saying that only God can judge?

Friend, I will respond in total humility, with my perception of what you are asking is in sincerity, asking for clarification, please consider this as one brother helping another.

The original manuscripts of the New Testament were originally written in the Greek language and then translated into English, the Greek language is more sophisticated than the English in that it has words that are more clearer or have different meanings than we do in English, take for example the word love, I can say I love spaghetti and I love my wife, we use the same word love to express our feelings, but it's obvious the two ways of expression don't mean the same thing, however in the Greek there are three words for love each having a different sense, eros, phileo and agape, I would never say I phileo spaghetti, but I would be wrong to say I eros or phileo my wife, but would be Biblically correct to say I agape my wife. Col 3:19

So now a short Greek lesson on judging:

In God’s Word, Jesus commands us to judge, krino John 7:24.

Judge (krino),not according to the appearance, but judge (krino) ,righteous judgment.

The Greek word for "judge" is krino, in the New Testament we find krino used in four different ways.

1) Anakrino - To Discern

If you put the prefix "ana" in front of the word "krino," you get a variation on the idea of himself is judged (anakrino) by no man.

But he who is spiritual judges (anakrino)all things, yet he himself is judged by no one. 1 Cor 2:1


It is not a right; it is not a privilege; it is not something that is advisable. We are commanded to do it, and if we do not discern, we lack wisdom. Believers who will stand up and say, "That is not Scriptural." "That is not right." "I discern that this is not of God," are practicing wisdom.

2) Diakrino - To Decide

Another prefix which changes the meaning of krino is "dia," diakrino means to "render a decision."

I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide [diakrino] between his brethren? 1 Corinthians 6:5

Is something right or wrong, is someone's behavior right or wrong morally, is it Scriptural or unscriptural, is it of God, or is it of the flesh, or of the devil? The Holy Spirit speaking through Paul commands that we are to diakrino. We are not permitted to diakrino. We are not advised to diakrino. We are not privileged to diakrino. We are commanded to diakrino. It is not that judging is acceptable. Rather, to fail to judge is unacceptable.

We are also commanded by the Holy Spirit through Paul to judge prophets or prophecy.

And let two or three prophets speak, and let the others (diakrino) pass judgement. 1 Cor 14:29








3) Hupo-Krites To Judge Hypocritically

Here the prefix hupo is added to krites, giving us the English word "hypocrites."
If we are going to stand up and confront other people in the church about something being wrong, we had better make sure we are not guilty of the same thing, because that is a kind of judging we are forbidden to do.

This is what Jesus meant when he said;

Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," and behold, the log is in your own eye?
You hypocrite [hupokrites], first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7:1-5

Jesus tells us we are to judge, but not to be hypocrites if/when judging.

4) Krisis - Heaven or Hell

There is a kind of judging that we are not called to do, the Greek word is krisis.

For not even the father judges anyone, but He has given all judgement [krisis] to the Son. John 5:22

The ultimate determination of heaven and hell belongs to the Lord alone, we never krisis, we are forbidden to krisis.

There you have it, three types of judging we are commanded to do, one type of judging that belongs to God alone.

Now I will give you an example of anakrino:

But he who is spiritual judges (anakrino)all things, yet he himself is judged by no one. 1 Cor 2:15

When God gives punishment for sin it pleases Him.

But Scripture says:

Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? Eze 18:23

For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye. Eze 18:32

Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Eze 33:11

These aren’t my words, but rather the words of God and the Word of God cannot be judged (krino) and according to 1 Cor 2:15 neither can I be judged (anakrino) for saying them.

I hope this clears up some things for you, I gave you the Strong’s # for these four words, I hope you will do your homework and be enriched and grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ as you study God’s word, also if you look up the different meanings for the word love and plug them into the story of John 21:15-17 it will give you insight as to what was transpiring there.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[KingJ]

Thanks for the effort in your reply. But I still don't see the need for you to explain these judgements in light of my statement judgement = judgement. We can put hypocritcial, condemn, discern etc before or after... but the word judgement remains the word judgement. Krino = krino. That was my point. Hence White throne judgement = those at the White throne are ''judged'' not automatically sentenced, not merely spoken to. Likewise those at the Bema Seat judgement are judged. 'Judgement' = differing sentences and rewards.

As for God doing what pleases Him, I do not disagree with your verses. The one that I quote here at work most days is Jonah 4:2 I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity.

But scripture also says Psalms 135:6 The LORD does whatever pleases him, in the heavens and on the earth, in the seas and all their depths.

So we need to understand that punishing sin pleases Him Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him. Seeing humans bring His impartial punishment upon themselves saddens Him. If God did not have pleasure in punishing sin, He would not punish anyone for sin.

 

[LiveOutLouder]

Do you think yahweh judges all sins the same.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Can't believe no one has added this to this thread. Sin is sin and the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23

I think these two verses sum it up.

 

[Major]

I must say yes, if there were different degrees of sin and punishment then wouldn't Jesus have to have suffered more than once for each different sin?

The word sin in the New Testament is hamartia which comes from a root word to miss the mark, like in archery when we miss the target, so all sin is missing the mark, ...the mark being God's perfection. So, sinning doesn't make us sinners, but rather because we are sinners we sin, it doesn't matter if we miss the target (mark) by two inches or ten feet, we have still missed it, ...hence we are all sinners of the same degree.

Blessings,

Gene

Gene......do you have any Scripture that would support your thinking ?

It seems to me that Hebrews 9:28 answers your comment.

Heb. 9:28
"So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many, and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation".

As it is with man so it was with Christ because He was fully man and fully God. As man can only die once, so the God-man, Jesus Christ could only die once as a sacrifice. Now if we give this much thought, I think we all can understand that His relationship to humanity would be marred if He would have to die more than once.

Simillarly, a second comparison seems evident to me. It is that beyond death there exists another reality. For man it is the reality of appearing for judgment. For Christ it is the certainity of appearing with deliverance from condemnation unto them that look for Him.

Christ has so taken away sin for the believer and borne its penality on the cross for all who will believe, that to those who have believed upon Christ, He comes the Second time to perfect our salvation as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
To them who have refused Christ, He comes as a terrible judge and nothing more.

 

[JustPassingThru]

Hey Major, I think you might have misunderstood what I said, I agree with Heb 9:28, I was asking the question if there were different judgements for different sins then wouldn't Jesus have to be crucified for each one? I was trying to show the fallacy of the idea, ...we know He was only on he Cross once.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[Major]

Hey Major, I think you might have misunderstood what I said, I agree with Heb 9:28, I was asking the question if there were different judgements for different sins then wouldn't Jesus have to be crucified for each one? I was trying to show the fallacy of the idea, ...we know He was only on he Cross once.

Blessings,

Gene

Hello Gene; No, I understood what you were saying and I was replying that Jesus was sacrificed for ALL sin whether they be big, litle, small or whatever.

Yes, sin is sin in the eyes of the Father but Jesus paid one time or all sin regardless of the severity. That leaves intact the teaching of differing degrees of punisment. IMO.

Gene......instead of "IF" there were different judments, please explain
Exodus 22 and Leviticus 20. I posted this already and maybe you did not see it on page #1 but clearly, God assigned different penalties to different sins This suggests that certain sins differ in seriousness. That is what the Scriptures say.

Under the Old Testament law, a thief paid restitution; an occult practitioner was cut off from Israel; but one who committed adultery was put to death. Aren't those different judgments for differing sins????

If not, please explain what those chapter mean.

Then again, Moses says that the golden calf debacle a great sin in Ex 32:30.
That says to me that there is a different judgment due to the severity of that sin.

Ezekiel says that after Oholah (Samaria) had ruined herself by unfaithfulness to God, Oholibah (Jerusalem) "became more corrupt … in her lust and in her whoring, which was worse than that of her sister" in Ezek 23:11,

 

[JustPassingThru]

Personally bro, I don't see why we need to be concerned about keeping intact the different degrees of punishment of the Law which is from a different dispensation, now granted there are teachings in these chapters that can be and are useful to us in the Church today, but didn't Jesus say He came to complete the Law, didn't He say on the Cross, it's finished.

Talking about this, I'm curious, living in the dispensation of grace Eph 3:2, when would we, the church, ever use these "judgments?"

Also didn't Jesus say the only unpardonable sin was rejecting His salvation Matt 12:31, so doesn't that mean at the Great White Throne Judgement the people will be "judged" for rejecting Jesus?

Now I do believe Scripture teaches there are different degrees or levels of suffering in the Lake of Fire, I think Jesus was referring to this when He was talking about stumbling "little ones" and having a mill stone tied around their necks, which is, I believe a reference to false teachers, those unsaved ones that lead people away from the Truth and also believers that teach false doctrine (not cast into the Lake of Fire, but taken home, out of ministry), ...I remember a very well known, respected Bible teacher on the radio who started to teach false doctrine and in just a couple of weeks he was dead.

I hope I understood what you said and answered correctly.

Blessings,

Gene

 

[Major]

Personally bro, I don't see why we need to be concerned about keeping intact the different degrees of punishment of the Law which is from a different dispensation, now granted there are teachings in these chapters that can be and are useful to us in the Church today, but didn't Jesus say He came to complete the Law, didn't He say on the Cross, it's finished.

Talking about this, I'm curious, living in the dispensation of grace Eph 3:2, when would we, the church, ever use these "judgments?"

Also didn't Jesus say the only unpardonable sin was rejecting His salvation Matt 12:31, so doesn't that mean at the Great White Throne Judgement the people will be "judged" for rejecting Jesus?

Now I do believe Scripture teaches there are different degrees or levels of suffering in the Lake of Fire, I think Jesus was referring to this when He was talking about stumbling "little ones" and having a mill stone tied around their necks, which is, I believe a reference to false teachers, those unsaved ones that lead people away from the Truth and also believers that teach false doctrine (not cast into the Lake of Fire, but taken home, out of ministry), ...I remember a very well known, respected Bible teacher on the radio who started to teach false doctrine and in just a couple of weeks he was dead.

I hope I understood what you said and answered correctly.

Blessings,

Gene

Gene,
I too am a dispensationalist. I do believe that this thread began when the OP wanted to know about my comment of differant degrees of punishment in the lake of fire. I see that we are in agreement on that! THAT is what I stated as being found in the Scriptures as being taught by Jesus and I used Exodus and Leviticus as the basis to show that it was not some new doctrine that Jesus came up with but in fact was rooted in the Scriptures.

I agree that we would not use those judments, but again they are used as a basis for foundational teaching of the Lord Jesus.

Didn't Jesus say that He did not come to change any part of the Law.

Matt. 5:17-19........
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

Did Jesus say ............."It is finished" you asked. That is what the Scriptures say my brother. The plan of God for the redemption of humanity was finished. As long as Jesus was alive He had to keep the law the way it was written by Moses. He would fulfill the law as Moses had written it. Once He died and rose again He ratified what was needed to be kept under the law of Christ (not Moses). This law was either given directly by Jesus or through the apostles after the resurrection (Acts 1:2).

Now as a side line......in this section quoted (Mt.5:17-19) He goes on to say “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

Seems to me that indicates a higher level based on rewards given which says to me that just as there is differant levels of punishment in the lake of fire, there will be differant levals in heaven.

And YES, I too have seen the example of men being judged when they purposefully distort and teach heresy.

So help me, about 10 years ago a young man was given the opportunity to preach in our church. He was just out of seminary and was about 30 years old. He wanted to use a "magic" act as part of his presentation. The pastor explained to him that he did not approve of the magic in the church's pulpit and asked him not to do any of it.

Now I am not discussing whether magic is or is not acceptable to anyone. The point is the leader of the church asked this man NOT to do any magic and low and behold the young man ignored him and did it anyway. That young man dropped dead of a heart attack 3 days later. Those of us who knew what had taken place were stunned, BUT not surprised.

Blessing to you Gene.....it is always an honor to speak with you.

 

[farouk]

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Can't believe no one has added this to this thread. Sin is sin and the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23

I think these two verses sum it up.

Relevant verse, yes. Blessings.

 

[JustPassingThru]

I do believe that this thread began when the OP wanted to know about my comment of different degrees of punishment in the lake of fire.

Okay, that brings it into perspective, I thought it was one of those speculative questions like, did Adam have a belly button, that we often find posted here, ...that cause confusion, division and disruption on the forum.

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

Precisely, ...and we see when the Great White Throne is seen, Heaven and Earth have vanished.

Far out!!! Nothingness, total nothingness, it's inconceivable, just God sitting on His Throne, like before Ge 1:1, we are behind him, the angelic creatures around Him and the LOST standing before Him in their new resurrection bodies, how terrifying that is going to be for them I can't imagine.

That sure puts the importance on , "TODAY is the day of Salvation."

Now as a side line......in this section quoted (Mt.5:17-19) He goes on to say “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

Seems to me that indicates a higher level based on rewards given which says to me that just as there is different levels of punishment in the lake of fire, there will be different levels in heaven.

I believe the four different levels of spiritual development will come into to play here and whatever state you were in at the rapture is where you will be "locked in" for eternity, now this is sobering, because it's Jesus that has stated there will be differences, I remember as a baby I loved to sit in front of the stove and take the lids out of the drawer and let them drop on the floor to hear them clang, at that stage of development in my life I was perfectly content to do that, but when I became a father, what a coincidence, I would watch my baby daughter doing the same thing and smile and laugh at her as she looked up at me and say Dada, as she dropped another lid, but dropping lids was no longer interesting to me, I had matured and there was a race car I was working on sitting in my garage, so, my point, those that are locked in as babes in Christ will be totally content at where they are at for all eternity, ...but those that have matured in Christ will have/experience a different fellowship with Father.

Those of us who knew what had taken place were stunned, BUT not surprised.

Yup! There are too many in the church today that think of God as the good ole boy in the sky and don't really know who He is or give Him the respect, honor and worship He deserves, ...if I remember correctly magicians fall into the same category as witches and witches were to be killed, again very sobering, ...Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

Blessing to you Gene.....it is always an honor to speak with you.

Thank you brother and the same back at ya!

Gene